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FLDS girl subpoenaed; wants lawyer removed
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Joey | 6:33 p.m. June 22, 2008
To be honest, I'd afraid for this girl's safety. CPS will do anything
now, now that the truth is revealed that she was never sexually abused, to shut
her up. CPS and even higher-ups in the Texas government with a hand in this have
an interest in seeing some convictions. This girl's existence is
invalidating the raison detre for their destroy-the-FLDS campaign.
jen | 6:48 p.m. June 22, 2008
oh please you flds backers- as if its not obvious you're part of that
degrading cult. The poor girl has no idea how much damage has been done to her.
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Think!!!!! | 6:58 p.m. June 22, 2008
In the land of the FREE, people are entitled to be represented by WHOMEVER THEY
WANT!!! Texas brought this on and that girl should have any representation she
requests (AT THE EXPENSE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS!) because HER CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS, HER MOTHERS' CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND YES, HER FATHERS'
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN TRAMPLED!!!!
MALONIS, STEP ASIDE AND WATCH TRUE JUSTICE THROUGH OUR CONSTITUTION WORK. THIS ATTORNEY NEEDS TO QUITE TRYING TO MINIPULATE THIS GIRL BY USING THE HONORABLE, BIASED JUDGE BARBARA WALTHERS TO RESTRAIN THIS GIRL FROM ALL SHE HOLDS DEAR.
MALONIS, STEP ASIDE AND WATCH TRUE JUSTICE THROUGH OUR CONSTITUTION WORK. THIS ATTORNEY NEEDS TO QUITE TRYING TO MINIPULATE THIS GIRL BY USING THE HONORABLE, BIASED JUDGE BARBARA WALTHERS TO RESTRAIN THIS GIRL FROM ALL SHE HOLDS DEAR.
Re: Malonis needs to go | 6:59 p.m. June 22, 2008
Absolutly, when will this circus of horrors ever end? How is this person
acting in the best interest of her client? This is the person the insane judge
"bodyguard betty" assigned to this girl. Both Malonis and Judge
Walther need to be removed with anything to do with this case and disbarred.
Gal50 | 7:19 p.m. June 22, 2008
"To tell you the truth, I havn't (sic) tried very hard at all to dodge
this subpoena"
To answer the post above, she tried to dodge the subpoena (and succeeded), but she didn't try very hard. Her mother is now in receipt of the subpoena.
This is very good news, because no one wants this girl, who allegedly has been victimized, to be further victimized by getting into trouble with the legal system. It is good news that every person is in receipt of their subpoenas and is not running from the legal system like some of the men seem to be.
Law enforcement has evidence that leads it to believe that she was married at the age of fifteen. This week, she will tell the jury her story and the jury will decide what to believe.
One has to wonder why she received a subpoena. If she had an infant, she wouldn't lie because there would be a DNA test on an infant. So, there is no infant to prove statutory rape. A medical exam could show the presence of semen and that could be tied to known children of her husband. Or, perhaps she had a journal.
To answer the post above, she tried to dodge the subpoena (and succeeded), but she didn't try very hard. Her mother is now in receipt of the subpoena.
This is very good news, because no one wants this girl, who allegedly has been victimized, to be further victimized by getting into trouble with the legal system. It is good news that every person is in receipt of their subpoenas and is not running from the legal system like some of the men seem to be.
Law enforcement has evidence that leads it to believe that she was married at the age of fifteen. This week, she will tell the jury her story and the jury will decide what to believe.
One has to wonder why she received a subpoena. If she had an infant, she wouldn't lie because there would be a DNA test on an infant. So, there is no infant to prove statutory rape. A medical exam could show the presence of semen and that could be tied to known children of her husband. Or, perhaps she had a journal.
newbie | 7:35 p.m. June 22, 2008
This side story is providing everyone with the only available information on the
grand jury proceeding. We know that the jury will meet this week and that
everyone is in receipt of their subpoenas and intends to appear.
The subpoena must have been for the mother to produce her daughter this week. If so, the mother, not the child would be the one ducking service of the subpoena. This girl is underage.
Now we know that the mother has received the subpoena and that the mother and child are safe at home.
One can imagine Willie Jessop consulting with Rod Parker who would surely advise him to do whatever is necessary to get mom to accept the subpoena.
It seems that this girl does not have a child, so I wonder if she had a rape exam performed. It's hard to believe that Texas would subpoena a girl for a statutory rape case unless there was physical evidence.
The subpoena must have been for the mother to produce her daughter this week. If so, the mother, not the child would be the one ducking service of the subpoena. This girl is underage.
Now we know that the mother has received the subpoena and that the mother and child are safe at home.
One can imagine Willie Jessop consulting with Rod Parker who would surely advise him to do whatever is necessary to get mom to accept the subpoena.
It seems that this girl does not have a child, so I wonder if she had a rape exam performed. It's hard to believe that Texas would subpoena a girl for a statutory rape case unless there was physical evidence.
zxcvbnm | 7:35 p.m. June 22, 2008
I don't see where the girl is avoiding anything other than what appears to be an attorney that is representing the states agenda rather than the clients best interests.
As the girl said, she is sitting on her bed writing a letter.
I would like to see the girl write about her experiences.....we can call the manuscript "Escape from a crazy lawyer".
She's property of Barb's voters | 7:46 p.m. June 22, 2008
The girl wrote that "It is my own dear feelings and doings. Right now I am
just at home, sitting on my bed. Does it sound like I have dissappeared (sic)?
To tell you the truth, I havn't (sic) tried very hard at all to dodge this
subpoena. Of course I am not just going to go running for it! I know how to
think for myself, if you can believe it!" she wrote. "This is how I
feel and I just thought I would let you know."
This sounds like a teenager writing and not an adult and it seems obvious she doesn't agree with Natalie or Barbie. There is absolutely no evidence that this girl was sexually abused and prior claims that she was pregnant have been discredited. Yet, the state which was wrong about her being pregnant should have the authority to subpoena her against her will because a lady named Natalie and her buddy Barbie think that she has been sexually abused? At what point does this girls rights enter the picture? I guess when BARBIE and her buddy NATALIE have spoken the slave of her voters will bow before them.
This sounds like a teenager writing and not an adult and it seems obvious she doesn't agree with Natalie or Barbie. There is absolutely no evidence that this girl was sexually abused and prior claims that she was pregnant have been discredited. Yet, the state which was wrong about her being pregnant should have the authority to subpoena her against her will because a lady named Natalie and her buddy Barbie think that she has been sexually abused? At what point does this girls rights enter the picture? I guess when BARBIE and her buddy NATALIE have spoken the slave of her voters will bow before them.
Anonymous | 7:49 p.m. June 22, 2008
It is very obvious the FLDS mob got to her.
She is now afraid for her life.
Sad
She is now afraid for her life.
Sad
Judy | 8:07 p.m. June 22, 2008
How do any of you know that there is no evidence? If all a jury needed to do was
to read the papers, there wouldn't be a need for a grand jury.
April38 | 8:14 p.m. June 22, 2008
One does not have to be a supporter of the FLDS to know that they have been
grossly abused. Nor does one need to be a supporter of the FLDS to know how
horribly abusive the various child welfare agencies are. No family is safe when
they look in its direction.
I've been following the case very closely. According to reports, the girl HAS been examined by a gynecologist; she has never had sexual relations. Yes, Malonis should be be disbarred. She is not representing her client's interests; she is in the pocket of the fundamentalists who orchestrated this persecution to begin with, and CPS, whose reputation and financial interests are impacted.
I've been following the case very closely. According to reports, the girl HAS been examined by a gynecologist; she has never had sexual relations. Yes, Malonis should be be disbarred. She is not representing her client's interests; she is in the pocket of the fundamentalists who orchestrated this persecution to begin with, and CPS, whose reputation and financial interests are impacted.
Lilathe | 8:28 p.m. June 22, 2008
CPS would have been dancing in the streets and shouting it to anyone that would
listen if they had one iota of physical evidence that this girl had been
molested.
zxcvbnm | 8:41 p.m. June 22, 2008
Isn't it amazeing that the girl is capable of communicating on her own....but the lawyer and everyone else seems to think that the girl is being manipulated. Any person who belongs to that church is accused of not being able to think for themselves.
I believe that those who can't think for themselves are the persons that believe the CPS version of events after virtually all the accusations have been proven false.
The pregnant teenager has never been pregnant......is not missing......and will be at the grand jury hearing. All those that were requested to be at the hearing are not in hiding. All the subpoenas have been served.
Everyone will show up...say they weren't molested, and the grand jury will rubber stamp the inditements. The injustice will continue.
And just for entertainment the LE boys will have their snipers spread around just in case anyone stares without a permit.
No Evidence | 8:44 p.m. June 22, 2008
"How do any of you know that there is no evidence?"
Maybe because the 3rd court of appeals and the Texas Supreme court said there wasn't?
Maybe because the 3rd court of appeals and the Texas Supreme court said there wasn't?
Wondering | 8:46 p.m. June 22, 2008
Is everyone sure that the 16 year even wrote the e-mail?Willie Jessop is more
than likely scaring the girl and her Mother into saying whatever he and other
men tell them to. There is something about Willie that just looks creepy and
meaner than h---!!I don't think that the media would see all the evidence
that was gathered.I am so hoping that the Grand Jury will do their job --study
the evidence that is placed in front of them!
Excuse me! | 9:00 p.m. June 22, 2008
"To be honest, I'd afraid for this girl's safety. CPS will do
anything now, now that the truth is revealed that she was never sexually abused,
to shut her up. CPS and even higher-ups in the Texas government with a hand in
this have an interest in seeing some convictions. This girl's existence is
invalidating the raison detre for their destroy-the-FLDS campaign." Are you
trying to incenuate that CPS would do something to physically harm this young
lady? I think you need to look toward those inside the FLDS. I thought FLDS did
not have access to internet? Why is this 16 year old emailing?
The entire issue has been about abuse and you only know what has been said in the media and those who say there is no abuse. If there is no abuse, then why is the grand jury going into session? Rather than speculate and spout off why not watch as the evidence comes forward. By the way....where are the "leaders" - under a rock somewhere I presume. Cowards!
The entire issue has been about abuse and you only know what has been said in the media and those who say there is no abuse. If there is no abuse, then why is the grand jury going into session? Rather than speculate and spout off why not watch as the evidence comes forward. By the way....where are the "leaders" - under a rock somewhere I presume. Cowards!
Bill Foldes | 9:28 p.m. June 22, 2008
Please give this FLDS story a rest. Can't you find some real news; real
information that people can use instead of this neverending gabble that has
become repetitious and boring? Enough is enough. Give us a break and send what
few reporters you have left out into the real world to find real news. You have
ceased to be a newspaper - You are the Church News with ads.
? | 9:35 p.m. June 22, 2008
I have downloaded the affadavait and letter on my computer and that is not what
was in the letter to the court from the girl. Nice try pro-flds websites
Tai H. | 9:53 p.m. June 22, 2008
It's a sad day in America when the government, Federal or State, attempts
to dictate who an individual right to counsel is. Completely unprofessional of
the State of Texas and indicative of today's CPS services.
Remember the Kelly trial | 10:30 p.m. June 22, 2008
In the R. Kelly trial (that singer with the 14 year old girl), the State had a
video tape. The State thought the case couldn't be lost.
Well, he was found not guilty because the girl said it wasn't her (even when they had other people say yes it was her).
This is why it will only do more harm for prosecutions to go forward with girls who do not want to testify. It will just make the girls feel victimized by the State.
You don't want the girls to testify one way now and once they mature and change their minds, have to say the were lying in the past and now telling the truth.
Well, he was found not guilty because the girl said it wasn't her (even when they had other people say yes it was her).
This is why it will only do more harm for prosecutions to go forward with girls who do not want to testify. It will just make the girls feel victimized by the State.
You don't want the girls to testify one way now and once they mature and change their minds, have to say the were lying in the past and now telling the truth.
Desert Sidewinder | 10:56 p.m. June 22, 2008
Texas authorities and all the FLDS men are the most whacked out group of
nitwits that I have read about in a long time. Too bad these people all live in
the USA.
awesomeron | 11:13 p.m. June 22, 2008
The Hero Judge needs to stay. You cannot tell what the 16 year old girls wants.
She is part of a group that lies about everything. She is a minor so what she
wants does not totally matter. What the State wants is proof and evidence that
some one messed with her while she was underage with or without her consent,
does not matter as she was to young to say Yes. WE need to get FLDS Male
Perverts In Jail along with their leader. You will not bust this up unless you
Jail the Offenders. If you group will not allow from here on end any Marriage to
under aged females that�s a good thing but does not excuse
the past. The Polig thing is neither here nor there if the people are over 18.
Its the Marriage and Forced Sex and Impregnation of Under aged Girls and other
child abuse. To include not educating them in such a manner that they can
compete for Jobs in a 1st World Country.
Give her a 2nd lawyer | 11:56 p.m. June 22, 2008
This girl is in a very unique position. She has three restraining orders out
against three powerful adult males. I understand the restraining orders were not
her idea, but apparently her attorney feels she needs protection. Her father is
a convicted sex offender and the crime involved a teen girl. He is slated to be
tried in another in a crime that involves another teen girl. Her attorney feels
that Willie Jessop is adversely influencing her and it seems the state feels she
is married to Raymond Jessop.
If she needs protection from the influences of these adult males, give her a second attorney on Tuesday. She is slated to testify and it is unclear at best as to whether her current attorney will be able to work with her on Wednesday. Additionally a new attorney will not be up to speed by Wednesday. Just pick an attorney who is going to be present for the grand jury hearings, who at least has some idea as to the nature of the hearings. This way, if she has been adversely influenced by these men, let's say Willie Jessop before the restraining order, then perhaps two attorneys will overcome that.
If she needs protection from the influences of these adult males, give her a second attorney on Tuesday. She is slated to testify and it is unclear at best as to whether her current attorney will be able to work with her on Wednesday. Additionally a new attorney will not be up to speed by Wednesday. Just pick an attorney who is going to be present for the grand jury hearings, who at least has some idea as to the nature of the hearings. This way, if she has been adversely influenced by these men, let's say Willie Jessop before the restraining order, then perhaps two attorneys will overcome that.
zxcvbnm | 4:12 a.m. June 23, 2008
So, sometime this week a pregnant abused teen that is allegedly brainwashed and manipulated by a cult will testify that she enjoys her church activities, is a virgin, and has only been abused by the State of Texas.
Way to go people........lets add a few more dollars to the 14 million already wasted in chaseing the rantings of a mentally ill caller and a bunch of disgruntled ex-wives.
Lets add another victim to the list of non-victims, another adult to the list of children, another grave to the nonexistant baby graveyard, another oven to the noncrematorium.
How many more broken bones will we not find and how many more non victims will be paraded before a Judge that can't count to 14 by a state agency that can't identify emminant danger.
I guess Malonis will continue to go before the media and say she doesn't want to argue her case before the media as long as it takes to convince everyone that her client is to confused to realize that going to the media might jeopardize the attorney client privilidge that her client doesnt't want from an attorney that goes to the media.
Stepford Wives | 4:45 a.m. June 23, 2008
Reminds me of the movie, "Stepford Wives."
Robotic and rehearsed!
It's a sad situation all the way around.
Get rid of the bad judge, the horrible attorney, and let the girl and mothers choose an attorney to represent them if that is what they wish.
Otherwise...move the heck on with something else.
Robotic and rehearsed!
It's a sad situation all the way around.
Get rid of the bad judge, the horrible attorney, and let the girl and mothers choose an attorney to represent them if that is what they wish.
Otherwise...move the heck on with something else.
Grandpa Phil | 8:52 a.m. June 23, 2008
I wish I could meet zxcvbnm; he is my new friend. He has a gift for objectivity
and possesses the subtlety of a train wreck. If there were enough people like
him around, there would not be fiasco's like we have seen in Texas because
more people would be smart enough to know the difference between right and
wrong, justice and injustice, or an 18-yr old and a 27-yr old.
zxcvbnm | 10:36 a.m. June 23, 2008
Re Gramps: Thanks for the praise. In this day and age it is difficult to remain objective when everyone likes to place everyone else in a convenient box.
I am a non-lawyer but have some basic legal training and have learned the "art" of argueing both sides of almost any issue.
I have a liberal education as well as a science background and degree so I can add the numbers as well as deduce the philosophy in a lot of situations.
27-18= 9....I learned that in the first grade..lol.
I am interested in this mess because a whole lot of allegedly educated public servants have been made to look like fools by what they claim are an uneducated, socially inept, spiritually corrupt group of misfits.
Those public servants represent a State that my family has called home since the place was a republic. Members of my family have served this state in many ways, including law enforcement, but have never treated anyone in the manner that the FLDS has been treated.
Texas really is a fine place...we have our problems but I never realized that the problems were this bad.
Who knows....we may meet one day...hopefully not in jail.
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How so? Malonis is toying with disbarment now.
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"The girl admits in the e-mail that she has been avoiding service..."
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I read both letters, but I don't see where she says that.