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Poll: Mitt helps McCain; Hillary bad for Obama

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Ya Think So? | 12:28 a.m. June 22, 2008
Wow! A poll taken to find out what everyone on both sides of the political spectrum already knows. Now that's fine information gathering and journalism... telling us what we already know.

Everyone knows the dominant religious camp will vote hand's down for a McCain and Romney ticket... that doesn't take a drop of brain sugar to figure out.

As for a poll see if Hillary helps or hinders Obama... now there's another one the pollsters believe they need to tell us something about everyone already knows... yes, most of the polled voters, which by the way is according to another poll defined to be around 80% Republican, is going to say anything and everything they can negative about Hillary. The reasons don't really matter, only that we didn't need a poll to waste time to find out something every thinking person in the State of Utah knows these voters would say anyway.

Yes, most likely Obama won't choose Clinton for his VP running mate, and that might be something Republicans should really be concerned about, especially if he selects Jim Webb or Mark Warner, thereby capturing the Independent white male vote that'll determine the presidency this time around.
Anonymous | 12:47 a.m. June 22, 2008
Mitt may help McCain but the prospect of Cindy McCain operating a beer distribution company out of the White House sure doesn't!
herb | 12:51 a.m. June 22, 2008
outsiders view? Utah will vote McCain no matter what. Only Utah residents think otherwise. the rest of the country KNOWS you will vote McCain ticket even thought he dissed your man Romney in the early stages of the primaries. you can't vote any other way. The only ones that don't know this is you. Thank you for letting a out of state person make a simple (but true) statement.
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Tai H. | 12:54 a.m. June 22, 2008
John McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and Mitt Romney raised the capital gains tax.

John McCain did not support a constitutional ban on gay marriages, and Mitt Romney legalized gay civil unions in Massachusetts.

John McCain has long favored regulatory restraints on gun usage, and Mitt Romney signed into legislation the largest measure of gun control in the history of Massachusetts.

So, what's the difference between Romney, McCain, Clinton, and Obama? NOTHING! NOT A DARN THING!

John McCain is liberal and so is Mitt Romney. They would be a great team! Mitt Romney's father WALKED OUT on Barry Goldwater's convention speech, in an effort to support global communism. Well, like father - like son.

The GOP has finally sold out. John McCain's nomination is the nail in the coffin for the Party of Goldwater. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave.

When the Republican Party is JUST AS LIBERAL as the Democrats - it's time to look elsewhere.

Bob Barr? Ron Paul? Pat Buchanan?
What? | 1:18 a.m. June 22, 2008
A poll statewide? In Utah? You guys really needed it to know what it would say? Seriously? Gee.....that was a tough call. Romney good for McCain...Shocker!!! Hillary bad for Obama (IN UTAH!!!!!!) Also shocker!
Lizzie | 1:21 a.m. June 22, 2008
I wonder if Utah would vote McCain if Huckabee were on the ticket.
Dave O | 1:27 a.m. June 22, 2008
I could have told you Romney, who is popular in Utah, would add to McCain's popularity and that Clinton, who is loathed in Utah, would lower the number of Obama supporters. This poll and article is one of the MOST WORTHLESS pieces of information Desnews has ever published. Why not an article about political party realignment in Utah or a grass roots organization of idependents to seek positive change? Either presidential candidate is unacceptable so hopefully Utah will break with GOP and it can start something that could be effective in the long term.
Letterman | 3:13 a.m. June 22, 2008
As Utah goes, so goes the nation....
Camille | 4:21 a.m. June 22, 2008
In my book Obama was already out after the playground battles he and Hilary Clinton had. Obama would be a fool to even think of her. The lady is power hungry. And Obama flat out is inexperienced. That's my opinion about it all. So with or w/o Romney McCain has my vote.
awesomeron | 4:49 a.m. June 22, 2008
Yes! Mitt helps McCain, except among die hard fundamentalist. Who do not believe that Mormons are Christian. That is a small noisy segment of the population but among 330 Million Americans that still a large number of people. I want to see Mitt on the Ticket because it would be the Best For The Potential Aborted Children Of America. Also the Best Chance of Getting The Right Judges On The High Court to Over Turn Roe v Wade and Gay Marriage. Also best for family values and to perhaps Take Back Sunday. One of the problems is Mitt is Not Mormon Enough for some Mormons and Mormon Period makes him objectionable to others. I live in Hawaii so it does not really matter, sadly we do not vote directly for President, (President Not Elected By Popular Vote) Hawaii belongs to Obama, so it does not matter who I vote for. 3 Electoral Vote At the very end of the Day. The only people less counted is Guam. Thankfully there is lots to do at the Polls on Election Day besides Vote for President. I would like to see McCain and who ever he can win with.
New Poll | 5:35 a.m. June 22, 2008
How about polling OTHER states & see what voters think about Romney? Hint- It's not great- otherwise he wouldn't have gotten drubbed in the primaries.
Heck NO! | 5:55 a.m. June 22, 2008
"...
Lizzie | 1:21 a.m. June 22, 2008
I wonder if Utah would vote McCain if Huckabee were on the ticket.
..."

Heck no! Huckabee is one of them evil Baptists! They only believe in what the Bible says, not our prophets or scriptures!
Texan | 6:19 a.m. June 22, 2008
The point of the article was that the VP choice is unusually important this year, in part because there are large numbers of disappointed voters in both parties. It was a good article. Romney is the clear choice for a strong VP.
Tiberias | 6:20 a.m. June 22, 2008
Boo Birds. It doesn't matter what the paper prints, you will boo.
Boo to you too.
NY | 6:23 a.m. June 22, 2008
This poll was kind of a joke. In fact, I laughed when I read the headline. Is this really news? Puleeze
marcus | 6:24 a.m. June 22, 2008
I have to agree with those who wonder why this poll was taken. To sell newspapers?

If it was a nationwide poll, that would be different. When Obama says he will run a 50-state campaign, he whispers to himself, "Except Utah where they are sheep." Can't blame the guy for thinking that either.
John | 6:51 a.m. June 22, 2008
Who care about UTAH anyway?
liberal larry | 6:55 a.m. June 22, 2008
There is so little function difference between the parties that you guys failed to ask the obvious question. What about an Obama, Romney, ticket. If Mitt morphed back into "Massachusetts Mitt" he would easily be liberal enough for the Democaratic ticket, and his financial expertise would be very attractive to conservative independents.
ericmiami | 6:59 a.m. June 22, 2008
With Mitt on the ticket, does that cancel out McCain's adulterous affair with Cindy while he was still married to the wife that stood by him during his years as a POW?
Greg | 7:11 a.m. June 22, 2008
They need to change the title to limit the scope of the poll. It is misleading people to think this is a national poll when it only includes Utah.

Great point about running a beer distribution company from the White House. I guess those commercials would have a White House Stamp of approval on them. LOL!

Camille...
McCain was out after he lost his touch in changing his disguise and supporting the worse president in US history.
It is time for CHANGE!
GO OBAMA! YES WE CAN!
sob | 7:11 a.m. June 22, 2008
The party of Goldwater??? hhaa he didn't even win in utah. this is probably the ONLY state where someone would still be in mourning about that though.
the poll might as well have said most people in utah
like green jello and ice cream.
Hillary | 7:27 a.m. June 22, 2008
HIllary would be bad for everyone!
Enough of this foolishness | 7:32 a.m. June 22, 2008
Utah has more dodgers for the United States Army and Marines
They all want to be cops
This is Utah.
Utah is a poor State
Low wages, 2 and 3 jobs each
This resession will put you people in the rears
Your R President is what has caused this and the killing of many innocent people here and abroad
I don't know 1 Utah'n that does not think.
The Just know stuff that has no truth to it.
Sheep without a mind
As if it mattered | 7:35 a.m. June 22, 2008
Better pole would involve Huckabee --- I think that Utah would be a blue state it Huckabee was involved.
So what | 7:52 a.m. June 22, 2008
So they polled Republicans in Utah and they said they like Romney and don't like Hillary. This is earth shattering news. I'm sure it will have a huge impact on both candidates VP selections and in the general election as well.
MJ | 8:02 a.m. June 22, 2008
McCain as Commander in chief? Why would any SANE person want 4 more years of the Bush fiasco and with Romney it would be worse.
Anonymous | 8:02 a.m. June 22, 2008
Everybody read "When Salt Lake City Calls" which will open your eyes why Utah should not have a say in the electioon
McCain and Olympics | 8:05 a.m. June 22, 2008
How easily people forget how much hatred there is between McCain and Mitt -- McCain opposed all the earmarks our good Utah senators sent to SLC for Mitt's Olympics, and this animosity was widely reported throughout the primaries. While the two appear to have made up, I think there may be too much mistrust and differences between the two for a ticket. Mitt opposes wind power in Massachusetts and fuel efficiency standards for cars, which flies in the face of McCain's global warming goals and contradictory energy policies (cut CO2 emissions but expand oil drilling that McCain advocates -- at least Mitt is consistent with his views on his faith in more oil). Bottom line is that Mitt will appeal to conservatives, but Mitt will handicap McCain with independents who will not like Mitt's anti-progressive views on energy.
Question | 8:13 a.m. June 22, 2008
Who is getting polled?
Master of the Obvious | 8:30 a.m. June 22, 2008
Sock monkey Republicans in Utah will give the state's electoral votes to Insane McCain, and work like orcs in GOP call centers on behalf of their fascist cause, no matter which candidate McWar picks for VP.
Bubba | 8:40 a.m. June 22, 2008
Who paid for this poll?

What a waste of money...
Who Cares | 8:42 a.m. June 22, 2008
The poll is meaningless outside of Utah because Utahns are so out of touch with the rest of the country.
Coug in Mass | 8:42 a.m. June 22, 2008
Foolishness?

Does the military comment include the high-profile 222nd?

Doesn't Utah lead in per-capita computer ownership?

Doesn't Utah lead with the highest percentage of high school seniors going to college?

Doesn't Utah have the highest percentage of passport holders?

Doesn't the BYU football team speak in the range of 20-something languages?

The sheep that you are surrounded by have more passports, computers, college degrees, and language skills than wherever you came from. Even the U of Utah grads are pretty smart (requisite U bashing in anticipation of the fall).

The poll is rather useless. Of course Utah likes Romney. The problem is that the southerners don't.
FLEXX | 8:43 a.m. June 22, 2008
Romney is A HYPOCRITE, i would not give him 2 cents to save my own life! HILLARY is immensely popular & is strong! who runs these polls anyway? let me guess the republicans!...hahaha
Anonymous | 8:47 a.m. June 22, 2008
this is not news.

quit wasting precious news space reminding us that Utahns like Mitt more than Hillary.
Anonymous | 8:48 a.m. June 22, 2008
I would not be surprised if McCain selects Mike Huckabee, since the Evangelicals have voice in the Republican Party.
swansend | 9:32 a.m. June 22, 2008
What about Ron Paul? He has such an adherence to constitutional principles renowned as Dr No. I feel that would unite Americans on so many levels. Now that would be change! Obama has taught Constitutional Law, if he is a true patriot wouldn't bridging the gap across party lines be a major move for unity in America. I can't think of a better campaign slogan my self. For a Lawyer and a Doctor. We will need legal advice to restore the US Constitution and a Dr to administer the healing so the that the masses reap the health. Not just at home but globally I feel that this team could be a phenomenon for the world.
Ron | 9:37 a.m. June 22, 2008
Gee, I wonder if Utah would vote for the mormon church, I guess we need a poll to find out.
Yawn | 9:39 a.m. June 22, 2008
How can this story really be the top story (online) on Sunday? What a waste.
NEWS? | 10:09 a.m. June 22, 2008
Do you people and this paper really think the rest of the nation cares about your preferences? Of course they don't and never will as long as you have this follow the leader mentality. Just look at the mess this country is in, led by a lying republican administration for 8 years and would anyone that knows ANYTHING about politics elect another republican? Only in good old Utah--yes yes. I have stated for months to please throw the incumbents out--ALL OF THEM. Now is the time to start a good house cleaning and rid ourselves of the rotten mess called politics. Vote people vote.
Anonymous | 10:28 a.m. June 22, 2008
Duh.....Mitt helps. Hillary hurts. WOW what a revelation for Utah.
D'ohseret News | 10:54 a.m. June 22, 2008
Someone PAID for that poll?

Who cares? There's plenty of Utah voters who just punch the (R) button, mindlessly, year after year.

Get a clue, Utah:
You haven't had any political power since the Democrats took over both the Senate and the House. It's going to get much worse after the 2008 elections.

If that's what you want, that's what you'll continue to get: limp-wristed white men towing the line for one religion.
McCain/Huckabee? | 10:55 a.m. June 22, 2008
I think if Huckabee is placed on the ticket, Utahns would run to Obama.
non-Utahan | 11:05 a.m. June 22, 2008
Every state's residents think their state is the center of the universe. But I would think that after he was trounced in the primaries and mostly because he is Mormon, people in Utah would realize that Romney would not be a great asset elsewhere---I hate to break it to you, but most people think all Mormons are still polygamists who don't believe in Jesus. It is sad that people don't know more about Mormonism and all the positive things that happen in Utah, but they don't. The YFZ ranch situation just made it worse--most people don't know FLDS from LDS and think if Romney is LDS, he has 9 secret wives. Others share the Utah hate for Hillary but I don't know of anywhere that shared your love of Romney. I think most evangelicals would view it as one more spit in the eye by McCain so it is not going to happen. Does that mean that the reddest state will support Obama? I highly doubt it, even if McCain picks Huckabee. Utah will go Blue around the time St George becomes a beach town.
Anonymous | 11:28 a.m. June 22, 2008
the flagrant opportunist's current dream (he never stops dreaming): somehow mccain picks the opportunist as running mate, SOMEHOW mccain wins the presidency, then, mccain is unable to finish his term and the opportunist becomes number 45 ... what a nightmare..


btw, thank you dn for the spell checker ... these posts are not as sloppy as they once were!
to Camille | 11:37 a.m. June 22, 2008
At 11 years of IL and federal government service, Obama has MORE experience than:

� (oops) Ronald Reagan -- 8 yrs as governor of CA
� Woodrow Wilson -- 2 yrs as governor of NY
� Theodore Roosevelt -- 4 yrs combined as Secty of Navy & VP
Let's see.. | 11:56 a.m. June 22, 2008
McCain is a war hero.

Romney's dad got him a deferment so he never served. Now not one of his fives sons has served in the military, either. While we are 'at war', no less!

Oh yeah, Mitt's great fit for McCain. That is, if no one else in the whole country will accept the spot.
Gaias Child | 12:07 p.m. June 22, 2008
Well of course Utah thinks Romney's a good choice. Duh .... and most places think Clinton would poison the Obama ticket and administration with the baggage she has said "everybody knows all about." Yep. Everybody do.
to Let's see.. | 12:22 p.m. June 22, 2008
I think that argument might be more compelling in a state that didn't regularly talk up the military and then refrain from sending any of their children into it. People in UT are altogether following the Romney lead to get the irony.
VOR | 12:33 p.m. June 22, 2008
only in Utah. This debate is worthless, Obama and Clinton will win the election. People will laugh McCain/Huckabie/Romney out of the water. Most Utahans will be sad for at least 4 years knowing a Woman is second in command. Some Utahans will feel the same way about a Black guy in charge. Booo whoo. Utah should know, rich old white guys = status quo. Status quo isn't working. The rest of the world knows it. A majority of Utah is in denial.

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