Deseret News | Sierra Club hails LDS Church for downtown Salt Lake makeover

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Sierra Club hails LDS Church for downtown Salt Lake makeover

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Thats worthless, the Sierra Club | 2:08 p.m. June 20, 2008

is a disfunctional group with desires to put all Americans in a horse and buggy. That is praise that I wouldn't want. Just because it comes from the worthless libs in the Sierra Club.

Sierra Club is good | 2:14 p.m. June 20, 2008

Of all the special interest groups in this country - the Sierra Club and the NRA are the only two which I support. To many in the GOP, they blindly accept the distorted propaganda from Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh that the Sierra Club is bad because they block "so called" progress. Nothing could be further from the truth. What is so bad about protecting the planet? Protecting watershed? Protecting national forests? Protecting and preserving national parks? Thank heaven we had GREAT visionaries such as Teddy Roosevelt who saw the "need" to protect and preserve this great country while at the same time moving forward with the Panama Canal and other projects. The LDS Church teaches as it's basic doctrine the devine nature of planet earth and the reponsibility we have to protect and preserve it.

Gruesome Green in SLC | 3:20 p.m. June 20, 2008

Just because the Sierra Club says something is good for the environment does not make it so.

For decades the Sierra Klub and many other "Green" organizations have had more allegiance to deeper-LEFT political ideas than to nature.

The Church has gone along with this transit oriented design and CBD-focus that actually steals transportation funding from suburbs and adjoining counties that need funding more than adding more trains to downtown. They seem to think all roads and rails should lead to Rome, not remembering that SLC will never be Rome.

Apparently current Church leaders who are "Green" sympathizers, have no clue that TRAX is a very poor imitation of what was once the highest density trolley system in the world.

This newspaper puts out a biased reporting and editorial policy of transportation planning that focuses on the collectivization of transportation through transit domination of funding. Conveniently, this funding is mostly for trains and buses that still focus on Salt Lake as though it still had 80% of the populous that it had from 1850's to the 1950's.

Instead of propagandizing Utah with a CBD-uber-alles mentality, "Green" church leaders should find out the impacts of that CBD focus on other areas.

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Sue Lison | 4:15 p.m. June 20, 2008

I live in nevada......and grateful I do. I am adding my comment because I read that comments that are abusive and offensive will not be posted. Who is Joseph Smith and why is George W. Bush immoral and unrighteous?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha | 4:34 p.m. June 20, 2008

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Thank you all! So many of you crack the rest of us up! Your insightful attacks on each other, your narrow-minded judgements, your politicalization of anything and everything, your unrestrained attempt to wrest any well-liked scripture or quoted phrase to fit in with your personal doctrine or agenda.

Most of us read the article, satisfied to take whatever facts we can glean and be comfortable in our own approach.

But it's nice to get the entertainment value that so many of you provide through your tabloid version of what you read.

I love it!

Utah man | 5:15 p.m. June 20, 2008

Uh oh This can't make Rocky happy!!!!

Ask | 5:25 p.m. June 20, 2008

What would Harry Reid do? Be a good Mormon like the honorable gentleman from Nevada.

Scott in Elsinore | 5:27 p.m. June 20, 2008

I'm an adult LDS convert and unrepentant tree hugger; living proof that Heavenly Father loves ALL of his creation and has a sense of humor! I stumbled across this article by reading about a couple of guys riding Piaggio scooters along the Lincoln Hwy. -- coincidence or divine guidance? I think it's great that our church leaders are using their resources to revitalize the Church's downtown SLC home. They are doing the right thing at home in the same way the Church does humanitarian relief work around the world. If their efforts earn the notice and approbation of others, that's nice, but it's icing on the cake. Politically correct? I care not. Philisophically consistent? Right on and let's have more of it!

Before | 5:29 p.m. June 20, 2008

As I have stated before, just because you go to church with someone doesn't mean you have to like them.

Mormons | 5:33 p.m. June 20, 2008

Mormons cannot all be lumped into one category, happily, as these posts demonstrate.

Proof | 5:40 p.m. June 20, 2008

Is there any archelogical evidence that the Sierra Club exists in Utah? Where are the DNA markers to back up your claims?

Tex | 5:46 p.m. June 20, 2008

God made the trees and the plants and the animals, they are living things, and it is Master Mahan that says I can kill and get gain.

Glenn | 6:06 p.m. June 20, 2008

The mormon jesus would be proud of you all. Give yourselves a big pat on the back.

Look at Problems | 7:48 p.m. June 20, 2008

What the development creates is great. Forget about global warming, what about locally? We have 5 months of smog in the valley. The church is working to get a larger population in the central business district, which equals less travel time on the road as well as more businesses and tax bases. The article also alludes to the investment in mass transit along the Wasatch Front, which also reduces vehicle travel and subsequent pollution. Quality of life should include clean air and blue skies.
More of these high density, multi-use developments will benefit future generations of Utahns and keep the streets safer as there will be more eyes to watch them on a constant basis.
I think it's important to understand why this got an endorsement from an environmental group. We need to plan wisely now because the population is growing and the resources in the West have always been scarce.

Justine | 10:08 p.m. June 20, 2008

Thank to church leadership for making this work. I am so proud when these articles come out. It shows our dedication and helps the non-members whom aspire to be like us to achieve greatness like us. Good for the Deseret News for these articles as they help those outside the church as well as those wit

Rob | 12:32 a.m. June 21, 2008

I'm stunned how stupid some Utahans sound. Whats all this left wing talk. How backwards can you be? Cling to your rifles and drive your pick up trucks, the rest of us will try to minimize your greenless ways. Thank heavens some of you don't think yours is the only right opinion.

BillyRed | 1:50 a.m. June 21, 2008

Who cares what the sierra club thinks and why would they believe anyone else would either? Complete arrogance!
The Church has always believed that they're stewards over the earth. They don't need the sc's little pat on the back. It's like Yugo telling Mercedes Benz that they make a great auto. Big Deal!

My 2 cents worth | 3:51 a.m. June 21, 2008

When I see Al Gore and the leaders of the Sierra Club live like they demand we do, I will take them seriously. Until then, they are to me just money grubbing hypocrites! Send in your tax deductable donations! What a scam! Carbon footprints my tired gas tank!

Eye Dee Ten Tee | 5:42 a.m. June 21, 2008

Why assume the church has changed, and not the Sierra Club? Maybe after years of sticking their noses in everybody's business, they will start minding their own business.

Now if you excuse me, there was a knock at my door and a black helicoptor is hovering over my house. I might be back....

lamonte | 6:40 a.m. June 21, 2008

Let's see - Joe from Idaho has made all of us Idaho natives sound like hillbillies. New Yorker is waiting for the anti-Mormon groups to start firing bullets when, in fact it is the usual active-Mormon right wingers who are spreading disdain because the "leftist wacko" Sierra Club has praised the church. C'mon Utahns, and Mormons (of which I am one) put your partisan hats in the closet for just one day and rejoice in the fact that the otherwise conservative LDS church (are they really?) and the self identified liberal Sierra Club (are THEY really when you consider God's commandment to be good stewards?) have come together in an effort to make life better for everyone. Let's just try to take it in and enjoy it for today.

L-D Sus | 3:37 p.m. June 23, 2008

The ï¿½discussionï¿½ about the Sierra Club overshadows the significant and positive action taken by the LDS church...Call it green building, or environmental sensibility, or whatever you will, but the LDS church considered the environment when planning and building the City Creek Center.

Good for the City.... | 5:21 p.m. June 23, 2008

Typically the liberal folks and tree-huggers have nothing positive to say about the conservative Mormons, even though they are largely responsible for this being a great place to live and raise a family. It's nice to see some recognition of a good project without the Sierra Club (or any other group) just dismissing it as something that must be bad because it comes from the Church. The anti-LDS folks here are so quick to condemn any project the Church proposes. Now if the citizens could just find the good here as well....

Idaho | 10:37 p.m. June 23, 2008

The problem with the enviromental movement as put forth by the likes of the Sierra Club is that it is too far reaching. They are continually working to lock up vast amounts of our nations natural resources which adds considerable to the rising cost of food, fiber, fuel and many other sectors of our economy. The gap between what our environment can produce with common sense conservation and what the "enviros" lobby for is huge!!! Some changes are desperatly needed!!! Just because the LDS Church puts a positive spin on the Sierra Club commendation certainly doesn't mean that they support all of the "enviros" philosophy.

John Lambert | 9:34 p.m. June 24, 2008

I might have observed this already, but reading more of the extreme attacks on the Sierra Club reminds me that the Doctrine and Covenants in section 89 counsels moderation in all things.
There is nothing wrong with standing up for principals. However we can work together on common goals with people with whom we disagree.
The Sierra Club is not the route of all evil. It has many good intentions and goals. At times there is disagreement within the organization about goals. For example if I remember correctly Roy Romer and his anti-life allies tried to take it over and get it to become openy pro-abortion and pro-assisted suicide if not pro-forced killing of the sick. Mr. "Sick people have a duty to die" was I believed thrwarted in his goals because there were many good people in the organization that realized you do not have to hate people to love the environment.
What is the good of having money if you all die because the air is too poluted. I know it is frustrating when development is thrawted, but development can be done in ways that are less destructive.

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