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Sierra Club hails LDS Church for downtown Salt Lake makeover
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It's a great thing when people can come together on something. As the LDS architect states in the article, stewardship of the earth is basic LDS doctrine, and you might want to catch up with your forward-moving Church, rather than stay mired in attitudes of enmity toward the Sierra Club or any other organization with whom, it turns out, your belief system actually does share something very important in common. Way to go LDS Church. Thanks, Sierra Club.
The Sierra Club had better not endorse the sky bridge so we can be sure we keep that great unobrstructed view of the Trax cables overhead.
It's comments like these that make it harder and harder to convice people Mormons are Christians.
Blessed Day!
Robert Oh, is right. On exchanges last night, I observed how hard it is for the missionaries to get the message across. Let's get rid of these negative and hateful attitudes. You might not agree with different opinions, but that does not mean you can disrespect them.
The LDS church general authorities taking a stand on things green. (A very liberal concept)
Nothing at all wrong (except in the skewed eyes of those nasty Limbaughites) with being a "tree-hugger"
We should NOT, however, underestimate the damage that powerful leaders of the Sierra Club (not the rank & file conservationist members) are doing to the HUMAN environment, by limiting our freedom to own and use property, by restricting economic development, and most importantly, by preventing energy from being extracted all over the country.
The Sierra Club is destroying our economy as we speak. They and their allies have caused the energy crisis we are currently experiencing.
If you really read what modern day prophets have said, you'll find a lot of concern for environmental issues and a lot of concern that the LDS people are in danger from excessive materialism.
If you are a conservative without a single liberal opinion or a liberal without a single conservative opinion, then you probably aren't thinking for yourself. I am a conservative and a conservationist and find that position very congruent. I mean the two words even have the same root.
Props to the church, they do so many things so well.
If you are a conservative - what is it you think you are conserving?
The problem is not protecting the enviroment, but extremism. Doctrine and Covenants 89 counsels moderation in all things. I think some of the anti-Sierra Club radicals need to figure out if they see Rush Limbaugh or Thomas S. Monson as God's living oracle, and if it is the first they are clearly in the wrong church.
This article happens to be about complimenting an ambitious downtown renewal project. The praise is appreciated and spot on.
Keeping the temperature down in the core of any large city is very difficult, in part because of a lack of vegetation. Someone went to a lot of trouble and expense to be an environmentally friendly citizen.
If you were to walk around that building and count the number of trees on that city block, there are probably more trees there now than when the pioneers first arrived.
The pulpit inside the CC is made out of black walnut, apparently all from a tree that President Hinckley planted. To produce that much useable wood, that tree would've had to have been planted decades ago.
I would have a hard time believing that someone could claim to be in touch with heaven but not be in harmony with our earthly environment. The LDS leadership not only did not diappoint me, but I was and still am impressed. If only now the rest of us could catch up.
I do not agree with much of the politics or policies of the Sierra Club, but to blame them for the energy crisis is short sighted and foolish.
The energy crisis is a result of failing to realise that non-renewable resources are also limited in supply. Sure we could band-aid the problem by tearing up the entire planet and scouring it for every ounce of fossil fuels, but that is short sighted, selfish, and destructive. The fact is that we have the technology and resources right now to solve this problem for ourselves and for generations to come.
We as a people need to suck it up and deal with the real problem. Fossil Fuels are a 20th century technology, it's time to move to the future.
The proof is in the posts here. The hateful bigots and their anti-environment ideology are deafening and the voice of the righteous is silenced.
"It is not likely that someone who does not love his neighbor will be concerned with his adverse impact on the environment...The outward expressions of irreverence for life and for fellowmen often take the form of heedless pollution of both air and water. But are these not expressions of the inner man? You are among those who must undertake the task of alerting mankind to problems with regards to his physical environment...If we are merely transients in an unexplainable world, we will act more as tourists than residents! Men born into this planet are stewards." - Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 643-644
I agree with President Benson and call on immoral conservatives to repent of their anti-environment ideology. May God have mercy on you!
M. Russell Ballard & Ezra Taft Benson!
Unfortunately here is another quote from a man quite popular with Utahns (for all the wrong reasons):
"I'm tired of the tree-huggers and environmental wackos who are brainwashed by Al Gore." - Rush Limbaugh (Utah is Limbaugh's largest listening audience)
But I belive that ultra left-wing organizations like the Sierra Club have no interest in actually protecting the environment. They push the myth of global warming in a effort to erode our freedoms. Remember the myth a few years ago of the ozone hole? That didn't work for them so they had to come up with something new. In ten years they'll probably have something even newer to try to scare us with.
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"We should NOT, however, underestimate the damage that powerful leaders of the Sierra Club (not the rank & file conservationist members) are doing to the HUMAN environment, by limiting our freedom to own and use property, by restricting economic development, and most importantly, by preventing energy from being extracted all over the country."
We are stewards and not owners of the earth for it is a living soul and all the souls in it from human to animal and plant must be protected. The Sierra Club isn't attempting to restrict anyone from owning property but those place emphasis on property rights also see us as nothing more than property. It seems that this issue really comes down to money and greed with you people. You see the EARTH as a NATURAL RESOURCE FOR YOU TO OWN even though you are not the owner of the earth that God has created. Those who think that we should be able to extract energy from the earth wantonly are in error and are disagreeing with the scriptures and teachings of the prophets.
In fact, instead of extracting more resources they suggest we conserve and use mass transit, etc.
"I want to raise my voice to let the world know that not all LDS are anti-environmentalist. Those who talk about flaming liberals and left wing wackos do not speak for the Church nor its membership. This recognition from the Sierra Club does have meaning for a great number of us."
It means a lot to those of us who chose to heed the counsels of the prophets and abide by the precepts set forth in scripture. Those who are offended by this endorsement or want the Church to reject it are intent on proclaiming the gospel of Satan. It is our duty as righteous men and women to stand up and to warn the world about problems with our environment.
"Congratulations to our leadership for demonstrating the LDS commitment to one of Christ's creations, the earth in which we are meant to grow and learn."
It has always been so since Joseph Smith until now and those who choose not to follow living prophets preferring the immoral and unrighteous teachings of such men as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and George W. Bush will be held accountable for their sins on Judgment Day.
nice try sierra club butno accolades from earth aware person, the city throughits own plans as usual to more beautification itself independent of any influence from any such group sorry to say sierra does not deserve the much talk about incident no credit deserve to this club.
Here are more:
Now, brothers and sisters, we have launched a clean up campaign. We are a throw-away people. Trash piles grow faster than population by far. Now we ask you to clean up your homes and your farms. "Man is the keeper of the land, and not its possessor." - Spencer W. Kimball, Ensign Nov. 1974
"It is terribly important that we preserve and improve the great natural resources with which the God of heaven has so richly blessed us, that we may not follow the experience of other nations that have come and gone because of the mismanagement of their natural and God-given resources." - Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 645.
"The instructions to Adam and Eve about the Garden Earth, by the way, have not been rescinded. They were, and we are, to dress it - not destroy it. They were to take good care of it instead of abusing it...If we have no concern for the generations to follow, the means are at hand to tear up the terrain much more than was ever possible anciently." - Neal A. Maxwell, That Ye May Believe, p. 75
Unfortunately you felt it necessary to put them under the heading "Conservatives are evil and immoral".
Blanket statements like that simply prove that you are no different than the people you are trying to argue against, you are just standing on the other side of the fence.
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