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Bush eyes Utah oil shale
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Forget ANWAR there is not enough oil there to make it worth ruining it.
Lets start drilling the coastal waters tomorrow. Only to lessen our dependancy on foreign oil. Keep gas prices high to force development of alternate energy, it is the only way that it will happen.
Enormous coal-fired power plants and huge amounts of water.
Meaningful quantities of oil from shale (a highly doubtful scenario) would come at a staggering cost, both financially and environmentally.
How typical of the Bush administration to trot out this tired old snake oil routine as a distraction during an election year.
I'm voting for Cannon on June 24th!
Starting to aggressively seek domestic oil sources is the right thing to do, whether it takes a year, 5 years, or 20 years. We cannot continue to rely on foreign oil.
We are the United States of America we can do anything we put our mind to if we can just get the miserable leftist Democrats out of our way.
Democrats are anti poor now? You need a history lesson and you need to start looking at what Republicans have done with their president for the past 10 years. The Rep. congress didn't drill either DID THEY!?
I guess the truth only suits Utahns when they want.
I am LDS, I'm Paleo-Conservative, I'm buying a hydrogen car as a better alternative to feeding oil companies. Conservative does NOT mean republican. I'm not a democrat either. Conservative has a meaning which most Utahns are so hypocritical about now that they forget why they were conservative to begin with.
Gay rights and Abortion are not the only two things we should talk about. Price of Gas before Bush was 1.47 the month before his inauguration. This doesn't mean it is undoubtedly his fault or anything like that. But this certainly shows how long that he and his republican congress had to help the economy and did nothing. They crushed America. You can't see that then your blind. Corruption & Greed.
We have plenty of energy, just not cheap, energy.
MEMO TO CONGRESS: GIT-R-DONE Today.
Are you kidding me? This President has destroyed our way of life over the past 8 years. All his programs are INFLATIONARY, spending on Military, Border Control, Immigration, Police, etc., spending that produces no goods and services for the public, but injects Billions of Dollars into the system.
His Energy policy has been tailored to bring about two things: 1) Immense profits for BIG OIL, 2) Break into ANWR (future immense PROFITS FOR BIG OIL).
AFFORDABLE SUSTAINABLE OIL is a thing of the past�time to move on, and start investing in the new AMERICAN ENERGY REVELUTION.
We need to give land grants of Federal Land to Municipalies for the construction of clean renewable electric power plants, solar, wind, geo-thermal. We need the Federal Government to spend $40 Billion per year on generating and delivery systems for the next 20 years. We need the Federal Government to build a MagLev train system for transportation of goods and people.
ONLY WITH THESE PROVISIONS SHOULD BIG OIL, BE ALLOWED TO DRILL ON THE COASTS.
VOTE ONLY ONLY FOR THOSE CANDIDATES THAT PLEDGE TO END THE OIL BASED ECONOMY.
We are finding that alternative energy sources; wind, solar, fuel cells, all will have their own problems with the environment. There are certain elements needed to convert these sources to be useable sources and they will have to be mined in greater portions. This will cause other taxing problems on our envirnonment.
We all hope for some way that won't tax the envirnonment in harmful ways. When you look at all the alternatives thouroughly oil still is a great source to be used.
Currenlty Canada produces millions of barrels every year without hurting the environment in harmful ways. Our (intermountain region) source of tar sands and oil shale is of higher quality in many places than Canada's also.
What is Baza's real agenda here, and others that stand up and say we shouldn't even try to develop America's vast resources?
And the further industrialization of the Book Cliffs is another step towards creating an industrial wasteland where once there was productive rangeland and good hunting. The rocky landscapes of the Uinta Basin will not recover in my lifetime.
You are correct! If our elected officials cared they would analys all the spending and redirect it to critical needs, the most important being National Energy Security. We need to start converting our Nation to an electric powered Nation immediately, but this will take time, so start TODAY.
They should take the BIG OIL SUBSIDY of $96 Billion per year being spent on the war, that keeps Middle East oil flowing to the World---- let the Europeans keep that oil flowing. Use our $96 Billion to build clean renewable alternative power plants here. We would get 50,000 megawatts capacity for this amount, enough to power 12 Million homes, about 10% of all residences in the Nation.
Any legislation allowing more drilling should MANDATE THAT THAT OIL CAN ONLY BE SOLD IN THE USA!
Problem: We tired of the slowness og congress to release land, so we sold the technology to Australia. Congress should wake up occasionally.
The solution, by the way, is to get short term oil prices down BUT to tax the price back up to a point that still encourages conservation, ride-sharing, and high-MPG vehicle purchases. Meanwhile, government incentives and subsidies for alternative energy development are crucial, as long as they are directed to sources that actually can make a difference -- wind, solar, geothermal, nuclear. Ethanol is not viable since it displaces food production that is clearly needed.
When gas was under $2.50 a gallon there was no call for these technologies, or calls for renewable energy. Now that gas is getting more expensive, the industries are working feverishly to come up with new, better technologies.
By the way. When Clinton left office in 1999, gas prices were under $1.50 a gallon. Eight years of Repulican rule later?..... Hmmmm....
"I will tell you what this liberal is going to do. I plan to socia... uh, we will take over and run the oil companies." (not exact, but close enough)
What are we to conclude but that people like her first create huge problems so they will have an excuse expand the government into areas that the public would otherwise never support.
If these socialists were to actually get their way they would own:
Health Care
Energy production
Food production
Transportation (mass transit to and from work)
and who knows what else.
Drill Here, Drill Now. We need new sources of energy today.
GWB should have you set his energy policy -- not Dick Cheney the crooked OILMAN.
The cost of oil is more than just monetary and should be the least of our concerns if we had any moral standards about the welfare of our planet. The disconnect is that if our planet suffers, we do too since we have to live here and depend on it for our very existence.
I think it's funny that Bush is suddenly concerned about the American people and their wallets at the gas pumps when he doesn't think twice about spending billions of dollars a month on his war.
We can develop the oil shale, we can start today and private industry will do it for the profit that is there and the security of the raw material that is in the US, not another country.
So let roll!
YES! I'm for going after all that oil shale here in Utah, but unlike the neocon idiots, not at the expense of future generations and ruining the land and water supply in the process of doing it.
There is however another point that we Blue Dog Dems want to point out... since we are the 'Real' fiscal conservatives out there, we'd like to see how the math supports BOTH the economic viability AND long-term ecological sustainability for extracting oil from shale... including it's impact on the Green River water shed. Even the CEO of Exxon recently stated that regardless of the whoopla and hoorah the math for extracting oil from shale is still years away from being an economically viable option, without massive subsidies and breaks from government...
And there we go again... Corporate Socialism and Corporate Welfare schemes!
Need this Blue Dog Dem say anymore?
Oh and by the way my phone service only cost me 15.00 a month when Reagon was in and then when Clinton left office it was at 30.00 So Clinton is to blame.
That is the dumbest assessment I have ever heard. The President is not to blame for every problem in the world.
Its like the UofU losing patients records. The President of UofU is taking the heat even though He didn't lose them. Perpetual Storage did. But because he was in charge he takes the blame. The President of the United States no matter who he is can only do so much
Shell Oil has developed new technology that allows them to superheat the oil while it's still in the earth and then pump it up. Thereby not using 'enormous coal fired plants and huge amounts of water', and they are piloting this process in Colorado now.
Check it out. Get informed!
Congress holds the financial reigns. Get a constitution lesson.
Pump oil from ANWR? Americans won't receive a special discount for "American" oil, it will sell at market price. The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates new oil from ANWR would lower the world market price between $1.44 & $.41
per barrel. The Saudi's can offset that as they please.
Is there a benefit to more drilling & development of shale oil? You bet, but it's a small piece of a complicated puzzle.
Just like they are saying that we shouldn't drill for more oil because it won't come online for 5-10 years. Do people really think that alternative forms of energy are going to come online in fewer than 5 years? We need a sensible energy policy that combines conservation, alternative energy and more domestic oil production to fill the gap until alternative energy becomes more mainstream which will take decades.
Good point. And look at what's happened since the Dem-os have taken over congress since 2003.
Any alternatives to oil are YEARS away. Even if we had a hydrogen car tomorrow, where are you going to fill it up???
We need oil TODAY!!! And will for years to come.
Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.
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