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Yes Please | 12:27 a.m. June 21, 2008
I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL THE OLDER GENERATIONS DIE OFF.
Gay marriage will become a reality. It's a proven fact that the younger you are, the more likely you are to know someone who is gay, and the more likely you are to support gay marriage.
To those in the "older generation" I speak of above that support gay marriage, I thank you.
To those who throw the Bible and that it's "not right or moral" in our faces - can't wait until you have no more say in the politics of this country. The line of separation of church and state is so blurred in this country it makes me sick.
Gays WILL be totally, 100%, accepted at some point in this country, and we WILL be allowed to marry. So those of the older generation (again that I speak of) that say it's wrong, and immoral, and disgusting, I cannot wait until you are 6 feet under. Then hopefully the politics in this country will change for the BETTER.
And, like I said, to those that support this, thank you. I'm just sick of people making this all about religion. What a shock in this day and age.
Gay marriage will become a reality. It's a proven fact that the younger you are, the more likely you are to know someone who is gay, and the more likely you are to support gay marriage.
To those in the "older generation" I speak of above that support gay marriage, I thank you.
To those who throw the Bible and that it's "not right or moral" in our faces - can't wait until you have no more say in the politics of this country. The line of separation of church and state is so blurred in this country it makes me sick.
Gays WILL be totally, 100%, accepted at some point in this country, and we WILL be allowed to marry. So those of the older generation (again that I speak of) that say it's wrong, and immoral, and disgusting, I cannot wait until you are 6 feet under. Then hopefully the politics in this country will change for the BETTER.
And, like I said, to those that support this, thank you. I'm just sick of people making this all about religion. What a shock in this day and age.
Re: Anonymous 6:23 | 7:15 a.m. June 21, 2008
"Yeah sure, To commenter at 1:35 -
And you also don't baptize dead jews and catholics into your religion.
Give me a break!"
The info I posted is found at the Utah Dept of Health, right on their website for all to see. Google it and give it a try, it's the very first link that pops up. We're well BELOW the national averages for both teen pregnancy and abortion rates.
What does baptism for the dead have to do with anything we're talking about? Oh, that's right, NOTHING!
And you also don't baptize dead jews and catholics into your religion.
Give me a break!"
The info I posted is found at the Utah Dept of Health, right on their website for all to see. Google it and give it a try, it's the very first link that pops up. We're well BELOW the national averages for both teen pregnancy and abortion rates.
What does baptism for the dead have to do with anything we're talking about? Oh, that's right, NOTHING!
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Good As You | 8:22 a.m. June 21, 2008
I haven't read all the comments on this article, but to all those of you
who are so vehemently opposed to Gay Marriage on Religious grounds, I would like
to point out that Religion no longer holds the monopoly on marriage and the very
people you are against being joined in matrimony are the Sons and Daughters of
people like yourselves.
What gives someone the right to deny others what they have themselves? We are living in the 21st Century: we have moved on from the times when women were inferior to men and when Blacks were inferior to Whites; it's time to live and let live, it's time that Gay Men and Women were treated with equal Status to Heterosexuals and it's time to respect and understand each other.
One has to ask, if it were your Son or Daughter who brought home a same-sex Partner and said they wanted to get married, would you really want to deny them that right or would you embrace their decision to share a life of Love and Happiness together? Please, don't say it will never happen - it just might.
The U.S. calls itself a forward-thinking country? Think again.
What gives someone the right to deny others what they have themselves? We are living in the 21st Century: we have moved on from the times when women were inferior to men and when Blacks were inferior to Whites; it's time to live and let live, it's time that Gay Men and Women were treated with equal Status to Heterosexuals and it's time to respect and understand each other.
One has to ask, if it were your Son or Daughter who brought home a same-sex Partner and said they wanted to get married, would you really want to deny them that right or would you embrace their decision to share a life of Love and Happiness together? Please, don't say it will never happen - it just might.
The U.S. calls itself a forward-thinking country? Think again.
Re: To All of You | 9:22 a.m. June 21, 2008
It sounds to me like you need to become 'active' again and work to
change what you consider amiss with the rest of us. I went through a time of
'less active' activity when I was young - I came to realize that my
own pride was stopping me from progressing. - "I've been attending
this ward now for TWO YEARS and MY HOMETEACHERS HAVEN'T COME TO VISIT ME
ONCE! - , ' oh - sorry to hear that... Have you done YOUR hometeaching?
' - no - " - you also get - "I attended church today and nobody
said 'hi' to me - - - okay - - - did you go out of YOUR way to say hi
to anyone else?" - - - etc. - - - One must be spiritually independant and
you can't rightfully go around telling a bunch of people who are busy
raising children and dedicating their priorities to their spouse and family
members that they're a bunch of judgemental people - one quickly casts
themselves in to the minority 'victim' mode. Discipleship to Christ
is what it's all about anyway. I encourage you to return to your roots.
Otis Spurlock | 3:36 p.m. June 21, 2008
Unfortunately, all of the rhetorice being thrown out by supporters of same-sex
marriage ignores the reality that SSA is a developmental disorder, not an innate
condition.
Two different research teams concluded that homosexuality could be best explained by an alternative model (to the biological innate model) where "temperamental and personality traits interact with the familial and social milieu as the individual's sexuality emerges" (see Human sexual orientation: the biological theories reappraised. Archives of General Psychiatry, 50, pp. 228-239. Neurobiology and sexual orientation: current relationships. Journal of Neuropsychiatry, 5(2), pp. 131-153.).
There is no support in the scientific research for the conclusion that homosexuality is biologically determined.
The brain function studies are wiped out by the scientific findings that "sexual experience can alter the structure of the brain, just as genes can alter it. (see: Sex on the brain. Nature, 389, p. 801.
When the identical twin of a gay man is not gay himself 50% of the time, how can anyone argue for a genetic cause?
And it is reversable. I know at least 4 incredibly courageous persons who have changed. Courageous, because the gay rights movement insists that these 4 people (and many others like them) do not exist.
Two different research teams concluded that homosexuality could be best explained by an alternative model (to the biological innate model) where "temperamental and personality traits interact with the familial and social milieu as the individual's sexuality emerges" (see Human sexual orientation: the biological theories reappraised. Archives of General Psychiatry, 50, pp. 228-239. Neurobiology and sexual orientation: current relationships. Journal of Neuropsychiatry, 5(2), pp. 131-153.).
There is no support in the scientific research for the conclusion that homosexuality is biologically determined.
The brain function studies are wiped out by the scientific findings that "sexual experience can alter the structure of the brain, just as genes can alter it. (see: Sex on the brain. Nature, 389, p. 801.
When the identical twin of a gay man is not gay himself 50% of the time, how can anyone argue for a genetic cause?
And it is reversable. I know at least 4 incredibly courageous persons who have changed. Courageous, because the gay rights movement insists that these 4 people (and many others like them) do not exist.
To Mr. Spurlock | 4:20 p.m. June 21, 2008
Your "courageous" friends may think thay have changed, but they have
not! I put courageous in quotes because I would hardly classify them as
anything such. If anything they are cowards. They deny who they are and their
feelings to appease religous bigots like yourself! If it is possible to change,
then please Mr. Spurlock, tell us how easy it would be for you to change from
being heterosexual to homosexual. Please enlighten us.
Ot is Spurlock | 5:49 p.m. June 21, 2008
To 4:20 p.m.
Experiencing a developmental disorder does not constitute one's identity.
Same-sex attraction is not a choice, but defining oneself as a gay and living the associated lifestyle is.
Why refute real people, experiences, and scientific evidence with mere assertion and name-calling? Is that what your cause is all about? Thanks for proving my point about denying their existence.
If you don't believe it is real, please tell it to the man who led the charge to remove homosexuality from the APA Manual in 1973, Dr. Robert L. Spitzer, who himself has become a believer. See "Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation? 200 participants reporting a change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation?" Archives of Sexual Behavior 32 (2003): 403-417. Dr. Spitzer receives hate mail for his change in opinion. Why?
Please also tell my friends their change is not real.
How do you know I didn't change? You don't.
No, it is not easy. Yes, it can be done. I have witnessed the process. These people are my heroes. I know and love others who are struggling valiantly. They fear you more than they fear me.
You don't have to change. Don't deny others.
Experiencing a developmental disorder does not constitute one's identity.
Same-sex attraction is not a choice, but defining oneself as a gay and living the associated lifestyle is.
Why refute real people, experiences, and scientific evidence with mere assertion and name-calling? Is that what your cause is all about? Thanks for proving my point about denying their existence.
If you don't believe it is real, please tell it to the man who led the charge to remove homosexuality from the APA Manual in 1973, Dr. Robert L. Spitzer, who himself has become a believer. See "Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation? 200 participants reporting a change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation?" Archives of Sexual Behavior 32 (2003): 403-417. Dr. Spitzer receives hate mail for his change in opinion. Why?
Please also tell my friends their change is not real.
How do you know I didn't change? You don't.
No, it is not easy. Yes, it can be done. I have witnessed the process. These people are my heroes. I know and love others who are struggling valiantly. They fear you more than they fear me.
You don't have to change. Don't deny others.
To Mr Spurlock | 7:12 p.m. June 21, 2008
I am not denying others a chance to change... if that is what they want in their
life, then I hope they do it. I however do not have to look up to them as
wonderful, amazing, hero's who magically changed! And honestly I
don't believe they have really changed. Maybe they don't act on their
feelings, but they still have them. It is impossible to change, believe me, I
know first hand. I prayed and pleaded with God for help. I read the Bible and
Book Of Mormon cover to cover searching for answers. I tryed everything I could
think of, and finally I accepted myself and loved myself for who I was. I am
not a bad person if I don't change! I am amzing, because I am who I am and
I don't let what others say make me try and change who I am anymore. If
your friends have "changed" that is fine, but until you have been a
homosexual, then don't tell me that it is possible to change. Like I asked
before, could you change from being straight to gay? Simple question that you
have yet to answer!!!
so hateful | 9:30 p.m. June 21, 2008
I am truly shocked by the hateful anti-gay comments above. I knew many gay
people when I was in medical school in Boston; I'm ashamed to think that
some of my former classmates might stumble on this site and think that the
Saints are all about hate.
Grow up Utah, study some biology and genetics, and stop spewing ignorant hate.
Grow up Utah, study some biology and genetics, and stop spewing ignorant hate.
My first comment | 12:43 a.m. June 22, 2008
We allow people under the age of 18 to be married and yet, if two people, male
or female, in their 50's, let's say both PhD college professors, both
make over $200,000, don't want kids, just want to love each other, share a
residence, checking account, bedroom, insurance, and hospital rights, who is the
adult that wants to make the call and say, "uhhh, sorry, sam sex, god made
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve... HAHAHAAHAHA"
Give a little tolerance.
Live you life.
Let others live theirs,
It in no way hurts you.
Give a little tolerance.
Live you life.
Let others live theirs,
It in no way hurts you.
Have any UT gay couples... | 2:16 p.m. June 22, 2008
gone to CA and done it yet? If so, the clock is already ticking on a lawsuit.
Or it soon will be.
RE: To To Alone @ 10:17 | 3:27 p.m. June 22, 2008
Um, well, actually, the poster you replied was right, for the most part. See, we
as LDS church members have a conference every six months. At that conference, we
raise our right hands and say that we believe our Prophet was called of God, and
we sustain him as a Prophet, seer and revelator and God's representative on
Earth. If we do that, we're saying that we believe what he advises us to is
God's will, so we DO have a legitimate obligation to follow his counsel.
When the First Presidency has come out and said openly that we should be voting against this measure whenever we can, and we should be active in promoting the Lord's commandments, and we sustained the First Presidency as speaking for the Lord, then we ARE actually obligated to follow their advice. We should get on our knees and pray for enlightenment over the truth of that decision with an open mind and heart, without any prejudgement, and then act on their counsel, whether we fully understand all the reasons behind it or not. If we don't, we WILL be held responsible for that one day. The poster was right about that.
When the First Presidency has come out and said openly that we should be voting against this measure whenever we can, and we should be active in promoting the Lord's commandments, and we sustained the First Presidency as speaking for the Lord, then we ARE actually obligated to follow their advice. We should get on our knees and pray for enlightenment over the truth of that decision with an open mind and heart, without any prejudgement, and then act on their counsel, whether we fully understand all the reasons behind it or not. If we don't, we WILL be held responsible for that one day. The poster was right about that.
Otis Spurlock | 4:39 p.m. June 22, 2008
7:12 p.m.
You ask:
Like I asked before, could you change from being straight to gay? Simple question that you have yet to answer!!!
I am sure there is a way. I know some women who have gone from straight to gay then back again (and perhaps they'll change again, who knows?).
I don't think comparing transformations is valid, however. One's psychology matching his/her physiology is not a disorder, so nobody has developed theories or treatments to alter it. However, when psychology and physiology do not match, motivation and time are invested to develop theories and treatments.
I CAN give you multiple scenarios not permitted by space here that will greatly increase a child's development toward same-sex attraction.
When I say same-sex attraction is a developmental disorder, this is not meant to be deragatory (I do not say it is a "mental" disorder). We all have our share of issues, me included, but SSA is developmental, not genetic.
I know the change is hard, HARD; but not impossible.
I wish the gay rights movement were nicer. Why should my ex-gay friend prefer not to reveal his past to anyone for fear of receiveing hate mail and threats from pro-gay people?
You ask:
Like I asked before, could you change from being straight to gay? Simple question that you have yet to answer!!!
I am sure there is a way. I know some women who have gone from straight to gay then back again (and perhaps they'll change again, who knows?).
I don't think comparing transformations is valid, however. One's psychology matching his/her physiology is not a disorder, so nobody has developed theories or treatments to alter it. However, when psychology and physiology do not match, motivation and time are invested to develop theories and treatments.
I CAN give you multiple scenarios not permitted by space here that will greatly increase a child's development toward same-sex attraction.
When I say same-sex attraction is a developmental disorder, this is not meant to be deragatory (I do not say it is a "mental" disorder). We all have our share of issues, me included, but SSA is developmental, not genetic.
I know the change is hard, HARD; but not impossible.
I wish the gay rights movement were nicer. Why should my ex-gay friend prefer not to reveal his past to anyone for fear of receiveing hate mail and threats from pro-gay people?
Sometimes change is | 6:31 p.m. June 22, 2008
possible, sometimes not. We should not judge whether it is possible. Just as
people are varied and different so are genetics and preferences in attraction.
Just because one so-called gay person changes doesn't mean another can.
There are degrees in attraction in everybody. I have known people that say they
are gay and that's all they ever have been or ever could be. I have also
some people that have said that they may be able to choose (this is especially
true in women).
Change is always possible | 6:52 p.m. June 22, 2008
in all circumstances. The key is if the person is willing and wanting to make
the change.
My brother just celebrated his 1 year anniversary staying sober. He'd been through 3-4 different treatment centers but obviously didn't want to make the change.
On the last one he obviously had the heart to make the change. He did and is doing great.
Liberals always are telling us that prisons should be houses to help prisoners make changes in their lives to stop the BEHAVIOR that put them behind bars.
So it is with homosexual behavior. One just has to have the desire to stop the behavior.
It's all pretty simple. If I want to lose a few pounds, I know what to do. Change my BEHAVIOR.
Man and woman were created for a purpose. It wasn't man and man or woman and woman. For those of you who have a hard time with the human body, I feel sorry for you.
It's straight forward. It's a BEHAVIOR that can change if someone wants to.
It would be nice if it did because the diseases that come from the barebacking are deadly....but feeling good is more important than being good today....
My brother just celebrated his 1 year anniversary staying sober. He'd been through 3-4 different treatment centers but obviously didn't want to make the change.
On the last one he obviously had the heart to make the change. He did and is doing great.
Liberals always are telling us that prisons should be houses to help prisoners make changes in their lives to stop the BEHAVIOR that put them behind bars.
So it is with homosexual behavior. One just has to have the desire to stop the behavior.
It's all pretty simple. If I want to lose a few pounds, I know what to do. Change my BEHAVIOR.
Man and woman were created for a purpose. It wasn't man and man or woman and woman. For those of you who have a hard time with the human body, I feel sorry for you.
It's straight forward. It's a BEHAVIOR that can change if someone wants to.
It would be nice if it did because the diseases that come from the barebacking are deadly....but feeling good is more important than being good today....
To: "Yes Please", 12:27AM | 7:13 p.m. June 22, 2008
Just so you know, I'm 42 and I sternly oppose gay marriage. At 42, am I
part of the "older generation"?
And, I know MANY other people about my age and even younger who oppose your desires as well, (no, they're not even all LDS church members) so you'll be waiting a while....
And, I know MANY other people about my age and even younger who oppose your desires as well, (no, they're not even all LDS church members) so you'll be waiting a while....
Hey "Good As You".... | 7:18 p.m. June 22, 2008
I have NO doubt whatsoever that you or any other proponent of homosexuality are
as "good" as I am or any other person who opposes homosexuality.
"You" and "I" are children of the God of the universe.
"We" aren't "bad" or "good" but we can surely
ACT bad or good.
See?, I respect "you" as a person. But what you're "doing" (advocating that practing homosexuality is A-OK) is wrong so yes, if my sons or my duaghters brought home a same-sex person and said they wanted to get married, I'd oppose it in every way possible. If they still want to choose it, so be it, but it sure as heck would be w/o so much as a single ounce of support from me.
You mean I'd miss the "wedding"?
Without even batting an eye....
See?, I respect "you" as a person. But what you're "doing" (advocating that practing homosexuality is A-OK) is wrong so yes, if my sons or my duaghters brought home a same-sex person and said they wanted to get married, I'd oppose it in every way possible. If they still want to choose it, so be it, but it sure as heck would be w/o so much as a single ounce of support from me.
You mean I'd miss the "wedding"?
Without even batting an eye....
I think it's sad to always | 7:38 p.m. June 22, 2008
listen to the same advice from those that don't know all the facts.
Religion has always thought it had the answers. As times change religion slowly
changes. Go to the library and see all the changes from years ago.
"God" didn't change....people's ideas and knowledge,
however, did.
Declaration on the Family | 7:42 p.m. June 22, 2008
I predict that the Church's anti-gay posture will come to be viewed in the
same way as our previous anti-black posture: misguided. The trajectory of
American history is always toward more equality, not less.
Same-sex marriages are NOT a threat to LDS families. My wife and I certainly don't feel threatened. The LDS will probably never perform such ceremonies, and the Constitution guarantees that it won't have to. The Church operates without problems in Canada, Holland, Spain, and other coutries that allow gay marriage.
Relax people, let Adam & Steve have their health insurance and mind your own darn business!
Same-sex marriages are NOT a threat to LDS families. My wife and I certainly don't feel threatened. The LDS will probably never perform such ceremonies, and the Constitution guarantees that it won't have to. The Church operates without problems in Canada, Holland, Spain, and other coutries that allow gay marriage.
Relax people, let Adam & Steve have their health insurance and mind your own darn business!
Staying "Sober" is not the same | 8:53 p.m. June 22, 2008
as changing a person's sexuality! This is the problem with so many people!
Comparing a person's sexuality to AA issues is not the same at all! I
should think that people can be intelligent enough to know this...but some just
don't WANT to know. They get "comfy" in their little worlds
where they have the "truth" and won't look outside to the many
other "truths" there are in the world. It's time to get into the
21st century or else perhaps go to a part of the world where you may not have to
deal with these issues.
to 8:53pm | 9:05 a.m. June 23, 2008
Since the inception of man on this planet, homosexual behavior has existed.
However, with few exceptions, Sodom and Gomorrah for one, homosexual behavior
has been rejected. It's not natural. It's not a normal behavior.
And yes, it IS a behavior. I know who want to think that sexuality is something that is the same as the color of one's skin, but it isn't. It's just a behavior.
One can act on behavioral impulse or one can resist that impulse. It happens everyday, all day.
The problem is you reject truth because you are "comfy" with your "feelgood" approach to life; whatever feels good, go do it.
You want others to look outside to many other "truths"; like what? Homosexual behavior is a truth? I'm sorry, what's true about it? Nothing.
Maybe it's time for you "feel good" types to get a handle on values, principles, morals, and truth and start living by them.
Trust me, those of us who abhor homosexual behavior are not going anywhere. We will fight you every step of the way. Maybe homosexuals should go to an island and see how many generations before they become extinct? Not hard to count to 1, is it?
And yes, it IS a behavior. I know who want to think that sexuality is something that is the same as the color of one's skin, but it isn't. It's just a behavior.
One can act on behavioral impulse or one can resist that impulse. It happens everyday, all day.
The problem is you reject truth because you are "comfy" with your "feelgood" approach to life; whatever feels good, go do it.
You want others to look outside to many other "truths"; like what? Homosexual behavior is a truth? I'm sorry, what's true about it? Nothing.
Maybe it's time for you "feel good" types to get a handle on values, principles, morals, and truth and start living by them.
Trust me, those of us who abhor homosexual behavior are not going anywhere. We will fight you every step of the way. Maybe homosexuals should go to an island and see how many generations before they become extinct? Not hard to count to 1, is it?
Charles | 9:06 a.m. June 23, 2008
Homosexual BEHAVIOR can no more be accepted than the people who are thieves,
murderers, liars etc. Behavior is behavior. Natural is natural.
The arguments of homosexuals saying that their behavior is normal is to dismiss the actual biology of humans.
To Real People, you want people to embrace homosexual behavior as normal and natural. It's not, never will be. I counsel my son when he doesn't tell the truth. I still love him even though he doesn't always do it.
My brother is an alcoholic and has licked it. It hasn't been easy for him and it is something he deals with daily. However, he doesn't act on those desires any longer. he has changed his BEHAVIOR.
The homosexual arguments about trying to normalize their behavior are old, boring and tiresome. Why? Because their is no truth in any of them. Biology 101 people.
YBU - you are probably too old now but try having a child with your partner. Gonna happen? Don't think so.
Man and woman were created for a reason and homosexual behavior has nothing to do with that reason.
Christ said a man/woman should leave their parents and marry. Sounds like homosexual behavior is out!
The arguments of homosexuals saying that their behavior is normal is to dismiss the actual biology of humans.
To Real People, you want people to embrace homosexual behavior as normal and natural. It's not, never will be. I counsel my son when he doesn't tell the truth. I still love him even though he doesn't always do it.
My brother is an alcoholic and has licked it. It hasn't been easy for him and it is something he deals with daily. However, he doesn't act on those desires any longer. he has changed his BEHAVIOR.
The homosexual arguments about trying to normalize their behavior are old, boring and tiresome. Why? Because their is no truth in any of them. Biology 101 people.
YBU - you are probably too old now but try having a child with your partner. Gonna happen? Don't think so.
Man and woman were created for a reason and homosexual behavior has nothing to do with that reason.
Christ said a man/woman should leave their parents and marry. Sounds like homosexual behavior is out!
It's a choice | 9:12 a.m. June 23, 2008
Acting on one's impulse to drink or acting on one's impulse to engage
in homosexual behavior are completely the same. They are both behaviors which
much be checked at the door.
We are intelligent to know the difference between behavior and one's skin color. Sexual preference is nothing more than that, a preference.
I know homosexuals and their supporters think they are in the same class as women's rights and civil rights, but wow, there is a huge difference.
I thought all people were intelligent enough to know the difference between those; I guess not.
Homosexuals have tried since Adam and Eve to make their behavior normal. They have failed and will continue to fail because there are enough people in society who know the difference between right and wrong behavior.
Homosexuals also like to claim that they are 10% of the population. However, the real number is somewhere around 1%, if that high.
All people with bad behavior need to change it. And yes, those who are struggling to stay sober are working each day to do just that. There is no difference. Behavior is behavior.
It's time intelligence started to show itself in the debate; not homosexual behavior.
We are intelligent to know the difference between behavior and one's skin color. Sexual preference is nothing more than that, a preference.
I know homosexuals and their supporters think they are in the same class as women's rights and civil rights, but wow, there is a huge difference.
I thought all people were intelligent enough to know the difference between those; I guess not.
Homosexuals have tried since Adam and Eve to make their behavior normal. They have failed and will continue to fail because there are enough people in society who know the difference between right and wrong behavior.
Homosexuals also like to claim that they are 10% of the population. However, the real number is somewhere around 1%, if that high.
All people with bad behavior need to change it. And yes, those who are struggling to stay sober are working each day to do just that. There is no difference. Behavior is behavior.
It's time intelligence started to show itself in the debate; not homosexual behavior.
Enyalid | 2:49 p.m. July 14, 2008
Homosexuality is wrong!!! Call me a bigot or homophobic if you like.
It's true! I will in no way support any homosexual agenda.
Brady | 6:32 p.m. July 19, 2008
Society has a compelling interest in fostering traditional marriage.
Traditional marriage is the most stable and produces the happiest and most
productive offspring.
� In a survey of 7,862 homosexuals, the 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census found that of those involved in a �current relationship,� only 15 percent described their current relationship as having lasted 12 years or longer.
� In their classic 1978 study, published as Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women, researchers Bell and Weinberg found that 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having one thousand or more sex partners.
Paula Ettelbrick, former legal director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, has stated, �Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so.... Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and in the process transforming the very fabric of society."
The truth is homosexuals want to remake society in their own image. In doing so they want to strip marriage of every thing that makes it beneficial.
� In a survey of 7,862 homosexuals, the 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census found that of those involved in a �current relationship,� only 15 percent described their current relationship as having lasted 12 years or longer.
� In their classic 1978 study, published as Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women, researchers Bell and Weinberg found that 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having one thousand or more sex partners.
Paula Ettelbrick, former legal director of the Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund, has stated, �Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so.... Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and in the process transforming the very fabric of society."
The truth is homosexuals want to remake society in their own image. In doing so they want to strip marriage of every thing that makes it beneficial.
re: John c | 7:37 p.m. Oct. 27, 2008
The fall of rome did not come with the fall of morals, but with the introduction
of christianity.
anonymus | 3:42 p.m. Nov. 12, 2008
if people of different sexs that hate each other have a right to get married
then why don't people of the same sex who do love each other don't
have the right to get married? I just don't understand.
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And you also don't baptize dead jews and catholics into your religion.
Give me a break!