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Regina | 12:31 a.m. June 17, 2008
It is wonderful for people to put their faith into action. Good for everyone.
Beware | 8:07 a.m. June 17, 2008
"Look at us! We are Christians because we help flood victims!"
Beware the LDS, for they bind heavy burdens of Church attendance and tithing and callings, which are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders.
5 But all their works, such as helping flood victims, they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their new headlines, and enlarge the borders of their garments so you can see how righteous they are,
6 And they love the uppermost rooms at Conference, and the chief seats in the chapels because they glory in callings and positions,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Bishop, or President.(Matthew 23:4-7)
The Church needs to stop reporting the service of their members. The only reason to report it is "to be seen of men".
You have your reward, but will get none in heaven.
Beware the LDS, for they bind heavy burdens of Church attendance and tithing and callings, which are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders.
5 But all their works, such as helping flood victims, they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their new headlines, and enlarge the borders of their garments so you can see how righteous they are,
6 And they love the uppermost rooms at Conference, and the chief seats in the chapels because they glory in callings and positions,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Bishop, or President.(Matthew 23:4-7)
The Church needs to stop reporting the service of their members. The only reason to report it is "to be seen of men".
You have your reward, but will get none in heaven.
I agree... | 8:15 a.m. June 17, 2008
I agree with the post above...we sure do toot our horn. Everytime I turn around
there is a new "huntsman cancer center" or a "sorenson wing"
of this or that, Steve Young speaking in priesthood session, etc.. We worship
financial success. We reward it with high position. We make statements all the
time that essentially equate to financical success = personal righteousness. I
am sick of it. Where are the humble fishermen of Galilee? (Now I dare
you...print this!)
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??? | 8:26 a.m. June 17, 2008
You have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!
BobP | 8:39 a.m. June 17, 2008
The church is allowed to toot its horn. That is broadcsting good news.
Individuals should be more circumspect.
James H | 8:41 a.m. June 17, 2008
Could it just be that the Church tells of the service so people know where they
can turn for help? Jesus proclaimed His miracles, in part, I believe, for the
same reason. To know to Whom people could turn for help.
Anonymous | 8:44 a.m. June 17, 2008
The Church may be "allowed" to toot its own horn, but doing so is NOT
consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ, whom they CLAIM to follow!
Dave | 8:46 a.m. June 17, 2008
It seems strange that the only time I read stories about missionaries, it's
when they're doing service projects. I know a lot of it has to do with PR,
but I'd love to hear a story every once in a while about missionaries
actually doing what they were called to do--proclaim the gospel.
James H | 8:52 a.m. June 17, 2008
To Dave:
They *are* proclaiming the gospel - through service to their fellow men. They are following the admonitions of both Jesus Christ and King Benjamin, not to mention all the prophets of this dispensation.
They *are* proclaiming the gospel - through service to their fellow men. They are following the admonitions of both Jesus Christ and King Benjamin, not to mention all the prophets of this dispensation.
Correction | 9:02 a.m. June 17, 2008
James is wrong! Jesus did NOT proclaim his miracles!
After performing miracles, Jesus said,
"See thou tell no man" (Matthew 8:4)
"And he charged them that they should tell no man:" (Mark 7:36)
"And he charged them that they should tell no man of him." (Mark 8:30)
"And her parents were astonished: but he charged them that they should tell no man what was done." (Luke 8:56)
�TAKE heed that ye do not your balms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.� (Matthew6:1-4)
Know your scriptures if you are going to claim to be a Christian.
After performing miracles, Jesus said,
"See thou tell no man" (Matthew 8:4)
"And he charged them that they should tell no man:" (Mark 7:36)
"And he charged them that they should tell no man of him." (Mark 8:30)
"And her parents were astonished: but he charged them that they should tell no man what was done." (Luke 8:56)
�TAKE heed that ye do not your balms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.� (Matthew6:1-4)
Know your scriptures if you are going to claim to be a Christian.
AZ | 9:03 a.m. June 17, 2008
The anti's are out early again today. Great story Mormon Times! It is
awesome to read of the service that is done by our members. In our newspaper I
only read about other Churches service because we don't call the paper
about ours. We do nothing to PROVE that we are Christians, we just are.
Remeber, faith without works is dead (James 2:18,20,26).
James J | 9:06 a.m. June 17, 2008
You know these people who "Hate" the LDS church sure did pick the
wrong place to live. We LDS people just are trying to make the world a better
place, and if that means "helping" someone out, then so be it. These
rants are psycho, have no basis, and just exacerbate the morons in our society.
There sure are plenty of them.
Anonymous | 9:11 a.m. June 17, 2008
I don't blame anyone for saying LDS are "tooting our horn." But
how many people out there think and say, "Mormons only help their
own!" or "Mormons don't do anything for their fellow man but
preach to them!" I have relatives who have said it, and I have heard others
say it. I'd rather hear criticism over publicizing service than not see the
Church do any service whatsoever.
Anonymous | 9:22 a.m. June 17, 2008
How can you claim to follow Jesus if you do not obey his teachings?
Jesus clearly teaches that you should NOT do your acts of religious service in public!
By all means, help others. Just don't publicize it all over the news!
Ever heard of quiet service?
Jesus clearly teaches that you should NOT do your acts of religious service in public!
By all means, help others. Just don't publicize it all over the news!
Ever heard of quiet service?
Carol | 9:34 a.m. June 17, 2008
I have observed whenever our lawn gets mowed, there is soon the buzz of mowers
nearby on the block. It is the same with service, when it is observed or read
about it pops up with others and in different places. I love reading about
kindness and service whatever the group or denomination. Service or good works
of that magnitude reported is newsworthy and encourages others to help out.
IA Flood | 9:46 a.m. June 17, 2008
I helping clean the floods up in Iowa. The employees of the local casion wear
their T-shirts so everyone can see where they come from. I promise you, if
Casino's "advertise" while helping flood victims, I'm going
to do the same for a CHURCH!
In addition, to those quoting scripture, I think you need to read the teaching on mote and beams. Also a great discourse in Matthew 7:1, you know that one...JUDGE NOT, THAT YE BE NOT JUDGED.
In addition, to those quoting scripture, I think you need to read the teaching on mote and beams. Also a great discourse in Matthew 7:1, you know that one...JUDGE NOT, THAT YE BE NOT JUDGED.
Anonymous | 9:47 a.m. June 17, 2008
Carol,
That may be your observation in your neighborhood, but it is not Christian doctrine.
If LDS claim to follow Jesus, they must be held to His teachings. He taught not to publicize acts of service. Period. Either comply or be quiet. Period.
That may be your observation in your neighborhood, but it is not Christian doctrine.
If LDS claim to follow Jesus, they must be held to His teachings. He taught not to publicize acts of service. Period. Either comply or be quiet. Period.
Really | 9:56 a.m. June 17, 2008
Can the author of some of these posts show me where in the scriptures it says
not to publicize acts of service? I've read 'Correction' post,
but those are just fragments of verses taken out of context as is so often done
by those who want the scriptures to fit into their way of thinking, not Christs.
Anonymous | 9:56 a.m. June 17, 2008
To IA Flood,
Do what you want, but don't claim to follow Jesus if you don't obey His word!
If you are publicizing your service and good works, you are NOT obeying Jesus' teachings. It is as simple as that. You can try to spin it all you want, but you are wrong.
Do what you want, but don't claim to follow Jesus if you don't obey His word!
If you are publicizing your service and good works, you are NOT obeying Jesus' teachings. It is as simple as that. You can try to spin it all you want, but you are wrong.
AB | 9:57 a.m. June 17, 2008
I, for one, really enjoy reading about what Mormons in other areas of the world
are involved in. It's nice to see that even outside of Utah, they can
bring together a critical mass of people and perform some needed service.
Anonymous | 10:02 a.m. June 17, 2008
To Really,
Look up the verses quoted. They are NOT taken out of context. You just want justification for your imperialist religion. There is none to be found in the teachings of Jesus. If you take the time to read His Word, you will discover that.
Look up the verses quoted. They are NOT taken out of context. You just want justification for your imperialist religion. There is none to be found in the teachings of Jesus. If you take the time to read His Word, you will discover that.
NJ observer | 10:12 a.m. June 17, 2008
If 500 people volunteer and 1 calls the newspaper, do they all go to hell?
If 1 Mormon performs service and it is 'noised abroad' while 1 anti-mormon spends the same time bashing said service, which is more Christ-like?
For the individual receiving help, are they served less by someone in a yellow t-shirt than one without?
If these mormons are really trying to be live righteously, might there be some comparison problems in applying admonitions Jesus gave to the hypocritcal Pharisees to these helping hands?
If someone has already stored considerable treasure in heaven, might they righteously choose a rather minor earthly reward without being judged?
So is the problem that the Mormons are performing service again, or is the problem that the media is reporting it again?
How many flood victims do you think from this evangical Christian state will reject Mormon help on the grounds that it is not true service?
and for all those accusing Mormons of performing service with beams in their eyes, I ask,
how wet are your feet?
If 1 Mormon performs service and it is 'noised abroad' while 1 anti-mormon spends the same time bashing said service, which is more Christ-like?
For the individual receiving help, are they served less by someone in a yellow t-shirt than one without?
If these mormons are really trying to be live righteously, might there be some comparison problems in applying admonitions Jesus gave to the hypocritcal Pharisees to these helping hands?
If someone has already stored considerable treasure in heaven, might they righteously choose a rather minor earthly reward without being judged?
So is the problem that the Mormons are performing service again, or is the problem that the media is reporting it again?
How many flood victims do you think from this evangical Christian state will reject Mormon help on the grounds that it is not true service?
and for all those accusing Mormons of performing service with beams in their eyes, I ask,
how wet are your feet?
Re:Anonymous | 10:13 a.m. June 17, 2008
"A new commandment I give unto you, "That ye love one another; as I
have loved you, that ye also love one another"
"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another"
John 13:34-35
Anonymous, I really don't think these people are feeling your love as you attempt to attack and hurt each one of them.
Thanks for serving out there Indianan and Iowa members. May we all do more to serve and love our neighbor.
"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another"
John 13:34-35
Anonymous, I really don't think these people are feeling your love as you attempt to attack and hurt each one of them.
Thanks for serving out there Indianan and Iowa members. May we all do more to serve and love our neighbor.
Chris Dutkiewicz | 10:15 a.m. June 17, 2008
To Anonymous,
Thanks for today's entertainment. You fail to recognize that "Mormon Times" is a publication directed at, guess who? Brilliant. Mormons. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I assume the Deseret News includes it because a large portion of their readers are, guess what? You're on a roll-Mormons.
Guess who saw Jesus do his works and wrote them down? His followers. Yup. Members of his Church. Millions have read about Jesus' good works.
Critique us about our doctrine, that's fine. There are reasonable arguments abound. But don't come over to our house, and then tell us how we decorate offends you. This is a communication from Mormons, to Mormons, about Mormons.
Nothing else to see here. Move along, Anonymous.
Chris Dutkiewicz
Thanks for today's entertainment. You fail to recognize that "Mormon Times" is a publication directed at, guess who? Brilliant. Mormons. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I assume the Deseret News includes it because a large portion of their readers are, guess what? You're on a roll-Mormons.
Guess who saw Jesus do his works and wrote them down? His followers. Yup. Members of his Church. Millions have read about Jesus' good works.
Critique us about our doctrine, that's fine. There are reasonable arguments abound. But don't come over to our house, and then tell us how we decorate offends you. This is a communication from Mormons, to Mormons, about Mormons.
Nothing else to see here. Move along, Anonymous.
Chris Dutkiewicz
RE: Correction | 10:15 a.m. June 17, 2008
According to your quoted scriptures, I guess Christ didn't have a very
strong voice amongst his followers. He told all these people to "tell no
man of him", yet his name is probably the most well known name of all time,
and all his miricles and service were published in the most published book of
all time (the bible) and are repeated throughout every book in the New
Testament.
When examples of service are witnessed, others will follow (as Christ did). No better way spread that example than a news story. Besides, I doubt the missionaries called the paper to make sure their service was noticed, others came to them because they have pages of newspaper to fill and needed a story.
When examples of service are witnessed, others will follow (as Christ did). No better way spread that example than a news story. Besides, I doubt the missionaries called the paper to make sure their service was noticed, others came to them because they have pages of newspaper to fill and needed a story.
Another Iowan | 10:25 a.m. June 17, 2008
Much like people other than Christ "reported" his service, the same is
happening here. The folks who rendered service did not "report" or
toot thier own horns about what they did. Someone else did. Is this so
different? Even though Christ said to tell no man, did not the story get told?
It was told, no doubt, by a believer/follower of Christ. It's the same
thing. I'm sure these people had no intention of getting their horn
tooted.
I've seen distraught folks lately, I've seen these same folks pick themselves up by their bootstraps when an "army" comes to help build a sandbag wall in their back yard. This is where the strenght to overcome comes from. This is why Christ wants us to help each other.
I've seen distraught folks lately, I've seen these same folks pick themselves up by their bootstraps when an "army" comes to help build a sandbag wall in their back yard. This is where the strenght to overcome comes from. This is why Christ wants us to help each other.
mom | 10:33 a.m. June 17, 2008
I seem to recall that there is something about "Let your light so shine
that others may see your good works and glorify your Father in Heaven. I
believe that is right after the Sermon on the Mount. Am I mistaken here?
To "Beware" | 10:45 a.m. June 17, 2008
I find it odd that you so willingly condemn another for serving his neighbors.
You have no clue how much the church does to serve those around the world
because the majority of what we do is NOT reported. I find it sad that instead
of getting out and helping people yourself, you instead condemn those who do and
then profess to be the TRUE follower of Christ. A little ironic.
Anonymous | 10:49 a.m. June 17, 2008
Mom,
Yes, "let your light so shine"...
But don't go around shining it in people's faces, broadcasting it in the news, and making out like you are so righteous because you do good works!
Do you people actually READ the New Testament?
Yes, "let your light so shine"...
But don't go around shining it in people's faces, broadcasting it in the news, and making out like you are so righteous because you do good works!
Do you people actually READ the New Testament?
James H | 11:01 a.m. June 17, 2008
Attacking LDS people for their service (or for the publication of the article
that tells of the service... yes, that's real Christianity.
Anonymous | 11:03 a.m. June 17, 2008
Read more carefully.
"Beware" never condemned anyone for doing good things.
You miss the point because you are NOT following Jesus' teachings.
Beware merely pointed out that PUBLICIZING it is not Christian.
It is a valid point.
"Beware" never condemned anyone for doing good things.
You miss the point because you are NOT following Jesus' teachings.
Beware merely pointed out that PUBLICIZING it is not Christian.
It is a valid point.
Yes | 11:05 a.m. June 17, 2008
Yes, I do read the New Testament.
Brent from Indiana | 11:04 a.m. June 17, 2008
I'm glad that, as part of his witness of Him, someone reported on
Christ's incredible service--even though it's only the tip of the
iceberg--to others. What Christ taught (from which I believe Anonymous evidently
drew an inconsistent conclusion, that any public service is unBiblical) is that
it's wrong to do good publicly if your primary motivation is so people will
see it and praise you. But Christ very clearly and consistently told us to do
good for its own sake, and to express through it our love for Him and all His
children. I'm happy to acknowledge the good others do, and I'd suggest
that we all would be better off if we did. I don't see anything in the
articles or actions of the hundreds helping the recent flood victims suggesting
they were doing it so the world would praise them.
Meg | 11:15 a.m. June 17, 2008
You're right, "Beware" did point out that publicizing is not
"Christian". However, my same argument can EASILY be directed towards
several others who have posted here claiming that we who help our neighbors are
not Christian.
"I find it odd that you so willingly condemn another for serving his neighbors. You have no clue how much the church does to serve those around the world because the majority of what we do is NOT reported. I find it sad that instead of getting out and helping people yourself, you instead condemn those who do and then profess to be the TRUE follower of Christ. A little ironic."
"I find it odd that you so willingly condemn another for serving his neighbors. You have no clue how much the church does to serve those around the world because the majority of what we do is NOT reported. I find it sad that instead of getting out and helping people yourself, you instead condemn those who do and then profess to be the TRUE follower of Christ. A little ironic."
Let it Be | 11:14 a.m. June 17, 2008
Anonymous is a hater. There is no evidence of Christianity in him/her. Non
sought after publicity is not against Christ's teachings. "No one
lights a lamp and hides it under a bushel". If someone chooses to
publicize the good works of others, I am confident that Christ has no issue with
that. The scriptures are a great example of published good works.
Matt | 11:14 a.m. June 17, 2008
Seriously, are those that are talking bad about the church over their helping
the victims of the flood? If you look at Christian views, what means more to our
Savior, those that are helping their fellow brothers or sisters or those that
are sitting in the back talking bad about those that are? From what it sounds
like, it seems that those who are talking bad are NOT serving their Savior they
are service another master and I'm really sorry about that. The church does
so much for so many that goes unkown, how dare you say that the church brags or
toots any horn. Also, I have served a mission and doing service projects is an
amazing way to proclaim what you believe in and that is that we should love one
another as Jesus did. Jesus served everyone that he could. Thank you for all
those, regardless what religion or belief, help out those that can't help
out themselves. For those that put others before themselves. For all those that
demonstrate the 2nd greatest commandment not because of fame or glory but
because of Love. Thank you.
WOW | 11:15 a.m. June 17, 2008
Anti's: Get off your soapbox and stop wasting your energy being bitter
Mormons: keep doing your thing
Mormons: keep doing your thing
Nate | 11:21 a.m. June 17, 2008
The LDS Church an "imperialist religion"!
Love it! Great comment!
It has the ring of truth: the Mormons always flaunting their good works as advertizing for their "imperialist religion"!
You nailed it!
Love it! Great comment!
It has the ring of truth: the Mormons always flaunting their good works as advertizing for their "imperialist religion"!
You nailed it!
Re: Anonymous | 11:20 a.m. June 17, 2008
I humbly submit that if his denomination was offering service, Mr. Anon would
also be tooting their horn.
But since the service is being performed by infidel mormons, anything they do is actually a bad thing.
But since the service is being performed by infidel mormons, anything they do is actually a bad thing.
doing what's right | 11:44 a.m. June 17, 2008
I love reading stories of people helping those in need, no matter what religion
they are. My NM aunt sent me a post of a bunch of people from Oral Roberts who
went to China to help with the aftermath of the earthquakes there. It was GOOD
NEWS. (guess what? "Gospel" means good news.)
Thank you, Des. News, for the nice story. And thanks to the yellow-shirted helpers for lending a hand, whether or not anyone chose to report it. :)
Thank you, Des. News, for the nice story. And thanks to the yellow-shirted helpers for lending a hand, whether or not anyone chose to report it. :)
st bernard | 12:18 p.m. June 17, 2008
Yes we are imperialists. This Gospel shall be preached to the entire world till
every knee shall bow before Christ.
For you naysayers...get off your hiney and help somebody.
For you naysayers...get off your hiney and help somebody.
Debi | 12:20 p.m. June 17, 2008
As someone who lives 3 blocks up the hill from the Birdland area that was
flooded in Iowa. I enjoy hearing about people helping out. Locally we've
had reports of military, children, churches and NCAA athletes helping with
sandbagging and other things. It's uplifting to know that someone would
assist others that they don't know. Between tornados and floods 3/4 of our
state has damage and more is still coming.
If someone offers assistance of time or money or even prayers the article did it's job. Keep them coming.
For all of you that just want to do LDS bashing why don't you set up your own blog and enjoy yourself.
The rest of us will just enjoy reading about uplifting things that make us feel better and inspire us to help others.
If someone offers assistance of time or money or even prayers the article did it's job. Keep them coming.
For all of you that just want to do LDS bashing why don't you set up your own blog and enjoy yourself.
The rest of us will just enjoy reading about uplifting things that make us feel better and inspire us to help others.
Just to be clear.... | 12:29 p.m. June 17, 2008
Just to be clear....I wrote the earlier comment about how we toot our horn.
Doing good works is great, it is what the Saviour wants us to do. The church,
or more specifically, the members do ALOT of service and they never get
recognition, which is fine, their reward "is in heaven". I just
don't know why we (our church) feels the need to publish all the things it
does. It is not the biggest issue I have, but it does cause me concern,
sometimes. What does concern me more, is the affinity we have with rich
members. This type of person is often called to high position, leaving us with
the clear inference that wealth results from personal righteousness. Wealth in
this life is really a thing that (usually) comes to the "lucky". More
often than not it is not earned. I view the wealthy as having a responsibility
to use their wealth to help others. Many of them do this, albeit what they give
away is usually a pitance and leaves them fabulously wealthy even after giving
some away. The greater sacrifice (and reward) is with those who have very
little, yet give generously and anonomously.
IA Flood | 12:39 p.m. June 17, 2008
I'm going to take these comments to the Salvation Army who bring their
white trucks with their name all over, dressed in their uniforms, and I'm
going to tell them they are not christian because they are shouting their good
works. Oh and the next time they ring their bells at Christmas, watch out they
are condemned! Oh and the Baptist church in Texas that showed up in their church
named busses to help FLDS folks get into shelters, I'm going to call them
infidels too!
You folks who are bashing the LDS church are shallow at best. If you are so Christian, get out here in Iowa and pick up a shovel! Get off your self-righteous throne and go to work.
You folks who are bashing the LDS church are shallow at best. If you are so Christian, get out here in Iowa and pick up a shovel! Get off your self-righteous throne and go to work.
Oh wow | 12:42 p.m. June 17, 2008
I have an idea, lets preach some more hate and intollerence for each other in
these forums, that will solve alot.
Reality | 12:43 p.m. June 17, 2008
By their fruits ye shall know them. Hey I'll take a Mormon with a shovel in
his hand over a lazy finger pointer any day. Let the Mormon wear whatever he
wants, just keep shoveling!
TJ Thompson | 12:49 p.m. June 17, 2008
"If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy,
we seek after these things." - from the Thirteenth Article of Faith
Deseret News is not reporting this stuff to glorify the people of the Church. It reports this stuff because (a) that is the job of a journalist - to report what happens, and (b) because Latter-day Saints are encouraged, even commanded, to seek after things of "good report."
I know that lots of you who criticize the LDS Church are just angry to live in a state that is so predominately Mormon, but here's a hint: if you don't like your community, just move. Really, no one is forcing you to sit in Utah and whine "woe is me, I have to live with the Mormons." It's not as if the Mormons invaded your state. Utah was established so the Mormons would have a place of refuge. Everybody knows this.
Deseret News is not reporting this stuff to glorify the people of the Church. It reports this stuff because (a) that is the job of a journalist - to report what happens, and (b) because Latter-day Saints are encouraged, even commanded, to seek after things of "good report."
I know that lots of you who criticize the LDS Church are just angry to live in a state that is so predominately Mormon, but here's a hint: if you don't like your community, just move. Really, no one is forcing you to sit in Utah and whine "woe is me, I have to live with the Mormons." It's not as if the Mormons invaded your state. Utah was established so the Mormons would have a place of refuge. Everybody knows this.
What to do? | 12:57 p.m. June 17, 2008
There's a quote that states "Damned if you do and Damned if you
don't".
Thanks Chris! | 1:22 p.m. June 17, 2008
Thanks Chris for pointing out that this is an article in the MORMON TIMES
section of the Deseret News, the LDS alternative to the Salt Lake Tribune. It
is there to be presumably read by LDS people (or LDS friendly people) who like
to keep up with family, friends, and Church members around the globe, and love
hearing that members are putting themselves into communities to help those in
need. The only place I read about these acts of love and service are in the
Mormon Times! Keep them coming please.
If you are not LDS, or anti-LDS, or non-Christian, or have a beef about religion in general, I would suggest you not waste your time and effort in reading these messages, and therefore not get upset, angry or judgmental.
Three LDS families in our general area are among those who have just lost their homes in a wildfire. I would love to hear how they are being helped, and indeed, if I can help them and their neighbors myself. If I don't read about something out of my small area, how do I know what service I can give?
If you are not LDS, or anti-LDS, or non-Christian, or have a beef about religion in general, I would suggest you not waste your time and effort in reading these messages, and therefore not get upset, angry or judgmental.
Three LDS families in our general area are among those who have just lost their homes in a wildfire. I would love to hear how they are being helped, and indeed, if I can help them and their neighbors myself. If I don't read about something out of my small area, how do I know what service I can give?
Chris Plummer | 1:44 p.m. June 17, 2008
Its good everyone went out to help flood victims. Everyone can meet at my house
for treats... I'm serving humble pie.
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- VA promises response to war illness 8:17 a.m.
- Military sees increase in wounded 8:16 a.m.
- Who knew Hasan's radical contacts 8:13 a.m.
- Bomb kills 9 officers in Pakistan 8:13 a.m.
- Lights back in Brazil after outage 8:11 a.m.
- Missing US soldier's body found 8:10 a.m.
- Grouchy public sticking with Obama 8:09 a.m.
- Woods faces tricky Aussie Masters 8:08 a.m.
- Oil up to near $80 on weak dollar 8:06 a.m.
- Stocks open higher as dollar slides 8:04 a.m.
- Pratt pleads not guilty to sex charges
- Utah group finds homes for orphans
- SLC council OKs gay rights policies
- Hair-pulling raises more questions
- Y. tight ends talented tandem
- Wyoming writer amazed by BYU
- Utes get extra motivation
- Jazz blow big lead, hang on
- Utah Jazz have a problem at point
- BYU soccer incident still popular
- House passes health care bill
266 - TCU showdown has big implications188
- Lobo suspended185
- Senators want food tax restored155
- Cougars crush hapless Cowboys155
- Utah Jazz fall apart against Kings131
- TCU 4th in AP poll; U. 16th, Y. 22nd119
- No 'backlash' for pioneers, gays analogy105
- S.L. vote pending on gay protections104
- Utes pound winless Lobos89
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