Comments about ‘Reports say illegal U.S. entry not difficult’

Before the Chaffetz people start blaming Cannon remember that Chris has voted for over 1,000 miles of fence and barriers, thousands of new officers, equipment, and training.

And unlike Chaffetz, Cannon has also focused on other methods that make it more difficult get/remain in the country. Let's remember that Cannon voted Yes on E-verify, while Chaffetz did not lift a single finger to help pass the Utah law. He did NOTHING to help solve this, well he has TALKED about it. But when given a chance to actually do something, remember that he did nothing for E-verify.

We should also keep in mind that any new Guest Worker visa must have not only stringent guidelines, a very specific purpose, realistic time frames and be a substantial investment as a method of ensuring immigrant participation.

Cannon has shown he understands the key elements of this as his proposed visa is very well thought out.

Chaffetz on the other hand is just basically leaving the barn yard door open. Applying a visa in such a hap-hazard way is nothing but trouble, and with not even one red penney of a fine is nothing but amnesty for 20 million people.

Vote Cannon!

This reminds me of the airport security tests that invariably reveal that determined terrorists can still get past the TSA.
We dutifully put up with screening at the airport and all the paperwork nonsense for a drivers license or employment application. Not to mention passport fees and delays in processing.
Meanwhile, the bad guys still get through.
Another example that our form of government is inadequate for governing an immoral society. (John Adams)
I wish I knew how it will all end.

"Cornelius said rather than focusing on border security, a better approach to curb illegal immigration would be to legalize the undocumented, reform the nation's guest-worker visa program and get tough on workplace enforcement."

I will never understand the stupidity of some peoples thought process.

The question is will congress ever ignore special interest in favor of what is in the best interest for the general public? The answer is a resounding NO.

Both Feere and Cornelius are correct that the one most lacking area is workplace enforcement. Next time ICE raids a Swift packing plant and rounds up another 300 illegal immigrants, take the CEO, CFO and all the members of the Board of Directors and put them in jail for 30 days and fine each of them $5 million dollars. I guarantee Swift will never knowingly hire another person without a green card.

How about actually enforcing the laws? Better yet, how about building a fence and wall across the entire border?... How about placing sniper towers every two miles along the border?... How about shooting anyone who crosses illegally? How about kicking all the illegals in the country out? How about starting with the illegal criminals?

The absolute farce that is called our border security is underfunded and undermined by our own federal and state governments. Maybe we should start by getting rid of our politicians who are not listening to the people.

Thanks Chris Cannon. Thanks for ignoring the laws of the land. Also thanks to the administration for doing the same. Also our 2 candidates now will give amnesty to the 20-25 million illegals that are hear. I would say our country is in deep crap!

From this article and the government's track record, it is obvious - they don't care! In fact, I firmly believe, they want the boarders between us, Mexico and Canada, wide open. Bush's motivation has always been to eliminate our boarders.

Wait, didn't he swear under oath to uphold our soverignty, to protect us,and to uphold and protect our Constitution? Now I understand why so many want him impeached!

Scientists determined the sun is hot, and water is wet.

Building a larger fence is a joke. Any politician who voted for that has never been anywhere near the border. The only way to stop illegal immigration is to penalize the employers. There are employers out there that issue a Social Security number to their employees because they cannot legally work with an iTIN number. If a person can't work, they can't live here. Simple as that.

I don't agree with amnesty. However, I do agree with better border enforcement. I also agree that workplace enforcement will have the best results. In addition to that, a more liberal guest worker and/or immigrant program that lets many more people in legally without the high cost and risk of illegally entering the company will encourage people who really want to come here to work, and not terrorize or escape their country. This could also have the added benefit of illegals who can no longer get work here, returning to their country and applying to come legally. Save us the trouble of deporting them.

But no, no amnesty!

I know personally a person who recently flew into Canada and drove across the border. She had once been here dealing with all the laws of legality for 10 yrs. She stayed out of the country for too long (if you stay out for over a year, you lose your permanent residency status). The immigrations folks told her she couldn't come back but then never took her residency card away (remember, she was legal and had done everything to stay legal while here). So, she was able to pass through a port of entry in which they only checked her ID and not her passport. B/c of that, everything checked out and she is, according to the law, here legally again because someone didn't do their job.

If we're really interested in tightening security, the first step is for people to start doing their job.

You've forgotten, if they don't work then they'll be on our welfare rolls - but then again, they'll be on them whether they work or not.

I wonder how many folks on here actually know the illegal community. There are some pretty simple clues to know that someone is illegal. Often, they have two namesone they use at work and one their family uses. That's the first clue. Second, when they hear about raids, they don't go into work the next day. The list goes on, but the point is that Steve is right; getting across the fence is just the first step. Illegals have to stay here once they cross. One way to do that is to lay into the employers so that it's economically dissuading. But what really is at the heart of the problem is our national ID cards, which are flimsly blue pieces of plastic without ANY identifying marks! I've been in several other countries, all of whose nat'l ID cards are plastic, with a thumb-print, photo, and must be renewed regularly. If we really want to make getting a job more difficult for illegal immigrants, we need to get a real Nat'l ID card. That's a first step.

I'm a border gal--grew up in Yuma, now live in Cochise County AZ, which has a hundred miles of border with Mexico--quite a bit of it rough country.
When I was a kid in Yuma, the Mexican workers came up, worked the season, and went home.

Now, not just workers come up, but women and families, who have babies, who are citizens
(by Supreme Court Definition of an Amendment that was never intended to be so interpreted) The families, legal OR illegal, collect food stamps, get housing help, free medical care, and other welfare benefits. Since the children are citizens, the family gets preferential immigration treatment. The children, even if the parents live back across the border, go to American schools, free. Many say the don't want to become American citizens, they just want the benefits of living in America.

The solution: 1. a documented guest worker program (workers only), 2. a better way for people who WANT to become citizens to become so--no criminals, health screening, verified work, and a sponsor (Ellis Island, anybody?). 3. NO CITIZENS' BENEFITS FOR NON CITIZENS!

Fences are stupid and wasteful and won't work. This would work and benefit everybody fairly.

Are there still people out there that think a fence would stop anybody from crossing the border?

Incredible.

To Fence Farce- I live on the border (San Diego). Ever since Operation Gatekeeper, the difference has beem like night and day. No, it doesn't stop everyone- but stops about 90%. Before, hundreds of people would pore across the border at once, and then nonchalantly walk up the freeway. That is over. A double fence would work even better.

The root problem to illegal border entry are too many American government officials who don't care about American sovereignty. They prefer open borders to facilitate their controllers' North American Union goals. They march to the tune of those who control them with money for their election campaigns. The Federal Reserve Note fiasco is intended to lead to the Amero. Observe what happened to Europeans who now regret they lost their rights to the European Union.

Sorry to disappoint you, this is not Chris Cannon. Just a former employee of the state, former Republican delegate and minor policy geek.

I just wanted to get ahead of the curve for the deluge of Chaffetz supporters blaming Cannon for sun spots. Chaffetz's plan would not work at all and is by any standard amnesty for 20 million plus. Bear sterns placed it at 30 million, so amnesty for up to 30 million.

There are answers out there and it includes border security though that will not fix everything. And the E-verify is BIG, if done correctly. I think the states are headed in the right direction, which is why Chaffetz's complete INACTION on that really bothers me. Almost 60% of the delegates voted for him so he could have used his influence to maybe get that law passed in a better form. Instead Chaffetz sat on the sideline talking fancy. Good law that could have been better.

Now that people are getting a sense that Chaffetz is just playing PR games to get elected, have you thought of sitting down with Cannon as a group and making a plan? I know others have with success.

During convention the name Matt Throckmorton came up. One Cannon delegate defended him saying that he is the reason that Cannon has voted for all of these tough enforcement bills since that election in 2004. If you don't remember Matt Throckmorton served in the state legislature and ran against Cannon on immigration.
A couple other delegates really went after Matt, as a turncoat for talking to Cannon. Talking to the other side is how government works. And if Throckmorton is the reason that Cannon has voted as tough as he has, maybe BBKing is right.
People say they called Cannon's office and he doesn't do anything. If they talked to his office the same way they handled themselves at convention, I wouldn't do anything either. Booing Sentator Bennett, screaming like they were. Who wants to work with that.
I'm not voting for Chaffetz and I think it is obvious why. When this is over those that have a real problem or question about Cannon's voting record should try and sit down with him. Not the convention way either.
Obviously the screaming act isn't getting through.
Or vote for Chaffetz and his amnesty for 30 million illegal aliens.

Chris Cannon did this to us. In 2004 he was on a Spanish radio station pleading for the illegals to give his campaign money "USING THEIR LEGAL CHILDREN"!

Get rid of Chris Cannon on June 24th (Primary), and you get rid of the immigration problem.