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Dick Harmon: BYU plays host to 150 potential football recruits
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Stop posing as a cougar fan please.
I must have missed something here. How is this bad?
Thank you BYU, for keeping the true capitalists living up to their name. Love Pete & Les
Urban Meyer once said kids want two things when they choose a school: Nike apparel and games on ESPN.
Within 5 years the majority of kids will want to go to a school where they can wear Under Armour rather than Nike. Nice switch by the Utes.
Unfortunately, neither Utah or BYU can offer the opportunity to play on ESPN.
Nice feather in the cap Cougs, anyone posting that Nike camp isn't a good thing for you is talking out of the side of their mouth. Keep setting the standard!
I can only hope that type of post does not personify the majority of BYU fans in this state. Ridiculous. And predicting a '96 repeat is almost as foolish. If I remember right that '96 team lost one game that year to Washington. With the current BCS system in place a one loss non-BCS team doesn't touch the top 15.
By the way, BYU had 14 wins that '96 season. Can you name two other college football teams that ever won 14 games in a single season?
Since when were tithing dollars used for athletics at BYU? Was there an unannounced policy change in the last two days?
April 6th - Univ. of Miami - 10-2pm
April 13th - Univ. of Florida - 10-2pm
April 20th - USC - 10-2pm
April 26th - TCU - 10-2pm
April 27th - LSU - 10-2pm
May 2nd - North Carolina - 1-5pm
May 3rd - Univ. of Alabama - 11-3pm
May 9th - Ohio State Univ. - 1-5pm
May 10th - Penn State Univ. - 11-3pm
May 17th - Stanford Univ. - 10-2pm
June 7th - Univ. of Oregon - 10-2pm
June 14th - BYU - 10-2pm
poorly.
But, his loss is BYU's gain because we got Bronco.
I'm waiting for BYU to post an undefeated August/September, before I get too excited about a BCS-busting run.
Pre-season rankings are fun, but rankings are meaningless unti October because nobody really knows how good the teams are.
BYU's toughest test this year could be Utah.
byU's toughest games this year:
5. Home vs. New Mexico
4. Home vs. UCLA
3. At Washington
2. At Utah
1. At TCU(on a short week)
Bottom line, this is just another example of BYU widening the gap between them and Utah in the Athletic world. Goodbye Utah.
I think the hardest games will be in order
1. Washington at Washington
2. Utah at Utah
3. UCLA
Go Utes!!!!!
And by the way Cougar fans I would worry about your schedule some tough road games to include the Huskies and Utes. I would really worry about that NORM CHOW run offense and UCLA. Norm isn't to happy with how you all treated him!!!!
Uhhh, Whit is not a scumbag, nor is he a traitor. He took the job that he felt would be the best fit for him. It all worked out, the Cougs got their man after he went to Utah.
No reason to trash talk here, BYU got a great camp, I'm really not concerned about 1-up'ing the Utes. We are living the good life right now, but let's play a few downs before we start crowning the Cougs BCS anything.
Have you watched the last three games? BYU has been the better team coming in to the game all three years and yet . . . .
'05: Backup QB gets his first start and runs all over BYU and the Utes win in OT.
'06: The Utes best QB is redshirting so they are basically playing with a second string QB again and come within one play of beating BYU, again.
'07: The Utes were ravaged by injury and Brian Johnson was playing with a throwing shoulder that was maybe 60% healthy, and still Utah comes within a play of winning the game again.
Kyle and Ludwig are bound to start having healthy teams going into the rivalry game, and when they do, LOOK OUT!
Go Cougs!
as with most rivalries, "unpredictability" is the watchword, anything can happen.
Utah has often given BYU's best teams fits, even during the '80's, when BYU was unquestionably the better team.
Utah's biggest problem has always been consistancy. Like we saw last season with UCLA and UNLV. No one can explain those two games, yet those same types of games continue happening to Utah year after year.
Imagine Bronco had to start an 18 year old QB in '05 instead of Beck, a seasoned veteran. They would have finished well below 6-6.
Or in '06 the other Beck had to start while John redshirted and Curtis Brown had graduated. BYU would have been lucky to win 7 games.
Or in '07 Hall misses three games and plays the rest of the year with a seperated throwing shoulder, Collie misses 12 games, Unga misses the whole year, and Aulai misses the whole year. BYU would have finished 6-6 or worse.
Kyle has yet to coach a year in which he is facing little to no adversity. Bronco has had very little adversity the past three years and only has 4 more wins than Kyle. This will be a big year for both programs, but Utah will have the better season. It is time for Kyle and the Utes to start getting some breaks.
As for the UNLV loss, I chalk that up to a lot of young players getting fat heads after stomping on UCLA the week before and then looked past the Rebels.
It's easy if you try
No Collie scoring touchdowns
No yearly EFY
Imagine there's no Max Hall,
Or an Unga too,
No Touch Down School,
No yearly winning blue,
Imagine if only Bronco coached us,
Beating the MWCeee,eeeEEE
You may say, I'm a dreamer
I wish it were only true
Then I wouldn't being whining all time,
Cause the Cougs own the Utes.
Or if Bronco had had to begin the season with a brand new quarterback who hadn't taken a snap in a real game since high school.
Or if Bronco had lost the reigning California high school MPV running back to a season-ending injury in fall practice.
Oh wait, that did happen, and Bronco was able to make seamless adjustments using available personnel.
Criddle was on scholarship and was all-MWC last year, and I'm pretty sure that most of the other "walk-ons" had earned scholarships by the time last year rolled around. Let's not pretend byU was playing with a bunch of Rudy Ruettigers in the defensive backfield. They were D1 athletes.
Hall was a Pac-10 QB that had been practicing for a couple of years in college plus he had time on his mission to mature. Brian Johnson was a true sophomore that was only 18 years old. BIG difference between the two.
Who cares if an unproven Freshman RB was injured and out for the season. That would actually mean something if BYU didn't already have Fui, Manase, and Unga. I would like to see what BronKo would be able to do without Unga. My guess for last year: BYU would have been 7-5 at best.
Bottom line: Now that Kyle will be coaching 'his own guys' we will see who has the better coach this year and beyond.
Let's take just a short look. Bronco took over a program after 3 losing seasons. Kyle took over an undefeated program.
Bronco has repeatedly had to rely on unproven frehman players, to fill needs (Unga, to name just one) and non-scholership players (Criddle was non scholership when he made his first start). Not all of the DB's were even playing, let alone on scholie @ the beginning of season, or even by the middle. They were pressed into service as the replacement starters were injured.
Hall was a player with 5 years of rust. Personal maturity does not mean game maturity (ask any of the U's RM's) Johnson had as much recent practice as Hall. Any advantage would have to go to Johnson.
RB's? Fui was injured, and Unga was FRESHMAN. Without Unga, Latu would have probably done about the same. (BYU 11-2)
BYU has suffered injuries and other problems just like Utah has. Hall was playing with an injured shoulder in the Utah game. It showed. He just didn't complain.
I think what Kyle has done doesn't compare to what Bronco has done.
GO COUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom line: When the U has an injury or other adversity, they may or may not be able to deal with it (look at the record; listen to the whining). When the Y has a loss, another well coached player stps up to fill the void. Most of these walk-ons had nothing in their resume' to indicate that they could compete at the D1 level, yet when called upon, they performed admirably against some pretty heavy competition.
Bottomer line: Now that they will be coaching more of their own guys, "we will see who has the better coach this year and beyond."
Kyle took over a team that lost every key starter from an undefeated team: QB, RB, Safeties, Corners, LBs, OL and DL, and WRs. Bronco took over a team that had a lot of returning starters in '05 and had even more returning starters in '06.
The one area that Bronco has had trouble is the secondary, but that still doesn't compare to what Kyle has had to work with.
You said it best, "hall was playing with an injured shoulder in the Utah game. It showed." Brian Johnson was playing with a seperated shoulder for THE ENTIRE SEASON! That is the amazing part. Even with the injuries, Utah won 8 out of their last 9 games!
Unga was a grayshirt and redshirt Freshman, and no, Latu would not have done what Unga did. If he was capable of that, he would average more than half a carry per game.
Hall had two full years of D1 college practice under his belt. Johnson only had one and he had a new OC in his second year. Hall had the same one for 2 years straight.
an undefeated team that had no keys injuries during their BCS-busting season.
So, was Urban a good coach, or did he just get lucky? Did he get out of town just in time, or would Utah have been much better if he had stayed? If Urban was such a good coach, why did he leave the cupboard bare?
I like Kyle, but, as a true BlueCoug, I was hoping he would take the Utah job, so we could keep Bronco.
Bottomest line: BYU fans are very pleased with the job Bronco has done in his first 3 years. Are Utah fans as pleased with the job Kyle has done in his first 3 years?
Keep dreaming. Your arguments are very hollow. I hope the U continues to do well, because it is good for all of us, and because they are a local team to me, but there is no logical reality to any argument at any level that kyle has done better than Bronco.
If you actually believe the arguments you have been making, you must be a liberal. They never use logic in their arguments.
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