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Sandy officials: RSL stadium won't be ready for projected October opener

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Informed? | 3:52 p.m. June 12, 2008

There is nothing to be informed about other than forced confiscation of OPM to build someone else's self interest vision.

Because my money is being used, I should get the return on the investment not local business. Since it's my money I should have the right to say where it should be Constitutionally spent. Mere mortals have to go and prostrate ourselves in front of the local banker and plead for money for our grandiose visions, while assuming all the risk. Why do some get all the benefits with reduced risk that gets passed off to the taxpayer.

And by the way, I have one of those useless promissory notes on file that say's so and so agreed to pay me back principle and interest and I haven't seen a dime.

RE:RE Count them | 3:58 p.m. June 12, 2008

Yep, and they were correct. They were saying it will happen, and not when it will happen. It will happend sooner now than back then. Its catching on. Younger soccer players now have a league to watch and support, and they will grow into adults that prefer a real sport rather than stop-start games otherwise known as MLB, NFL, NBA.. .geesh... how many breaks to the MLB, NFL, and NBA players need in a game? Way to get athletic, lets play for 5 seconds and take a 30 second break. Or how about an hour game that actually takes 3-4 hours to play? LOL... Soccer is the future, MLB, NBA, and NFL are the past.

RE:RE: RE | 4:22 p.m. June 12, 2008

Don't tell me you actually believe that soccer will surpass the NFL in popularity? Most MLS teams can't fill their 20,000 seat stadiums while NFL tickets are harder to find than water in the desert. Maybe here, since the NFL plays on Sunday, but not in the rest of the country.

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Dave Mangine | 4:27 p.m. June 12, 2008

Informed: You say "my money is being used" for the stadium. Exactly what money of yours is being used?

NFL | 4:30 p.m. June 12, 2008

Sir, NFL tickets are hard to find in Utah because we don't have an NFL team. Geesh! Some of you are not very smart.

I watch NFL on TV, and except for the major teams, there are more empty seats in the NFL statiums than in the MLS soccer specific stadiums.

Soccer will pass NFL for sure. It is simple. Watching attractive athletes vs. watching fatty mutants.

Dave Mangine | 4:33 p.m. June 12, 2008

I admit I don't know much about soccer or the MLS for that matter. But I do remember in the mid 60's when people said that with the new "Super Bowl" concept it would replace MLB as America's favorite sport. Nobody believe that except for owners of NFL teams. In some (or even many) ways, that has come true. So maybe soccer will become more popular some day.

re:NFL | 4:47 p.m. June 12, 2008

Duh! I travel around the country and it is nearly impossible to buy NFL tickets. If you see empty seats at an NFL game, you must be watching highlights from the 60s because there aren't any in this day and age.

Dave Mangine | 4:48 p.m. June 12, 2008

One other note on success of MLS. Take a look at the ownership of MLS teams. You will note that several NFL team owners are invested in MLS. I guess one could say they were right before, maybe this time too.

Dave Mangine | 4:59 p.m. June 12, 2008

re:NFL: I would agree that there are some teams in the NFL that sell out nearly every game. However, as one who knows about NFL market TV contracts, I can tell you that there is a "Blackout" clause in every market. Typically, if you don't sell out the game or at least reach a certain percentage of ticket sales for a specific game, the game cannot be televised locally. If as you say nearly all NFL games sellout, then you would not see the blackout clause insituted. I know that it is in effect in several NFL markets each game week due to lack of ticket sales.

Apples2Apples | 4:59 p.m. June 12, 2008

On a global stage soccer is much, much bigger the NBA or the NFL. The most watched sports league in the world is the Premier League (As most of you won't know, this is a soccer league). What the NBA is to basketball, the Premier League is to soccer. It's like comparing playing basketball in Europe to playing in the NBA. So in the true sense of the word you're not comparing apples to apples here. Some stadiums in the Premier League sit as many people as 60,000 to 80,000.

Dave | 5:09 p.m. June 12, 2008

According to a December 17, 2006 article in the Buffalo News, only 5 of 224 games to that point in the 2006 season had been blacked out locally (3 in Buffalo and 2 in Oakland).

Apples | 5:10 p.m. June 12, 2008

I don't care about the rest of the world, plus using your equation, it proves the MLS is nothing more than a third or fourth tier league.

Anonymous | 5:16 p.m. June 12, 2008

I think the stadium is going to be very cool. I will visit, enjoy, and cheer on RSL. Plus Utah High Schools are all over the stadium for sporting championship games. Sounds like they are friendly neighbors to me.

With how many people complain about the lack of things to do in Utah... Why do half the people on here complain about this stadium and the entertainment values it brings to the state? Is it because some tax money that you won't ever notice was spent? Our tax money spent is probably less than what the state is spending to fix 3300 s this year.

Soccer dreamers | 6:17 p.m. June 12, 2008

Go away. Almost every NFL team sells out every week in 60 -90 thousand seat stadiums. Who cares if RSL leads the league in attendance. You are comparing that against other cities that also don't care about soccer. MLS will take over the NFL about the time the WNBA takes over the NBA.

Utah Resident | 6:56 p.m. June 12, 2008

WHAT A WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY!

Who Cares? | 8:27 p.m. June 12, 2008

Real won't be around after two years so who cares? Many of your supporters are in a lower economic level and won't be able to afford tickets. With the price of gas going up so much, many of these same supporters will be asked to chose between paying for gas, bus tickets or entertainment. Soccer will lose. The stadium looks nice but will falter.

Anonymous | 10:51 p.m. June 12, 2008

In a Utah where boredom seems exciting this may work. It's not like Utah has the Lakers, 49er's or any team of national interest.
Does Utah have a basketball team? It's easy to forget, if you life outside of Utah.

Chris | 11:34 p.m. June 12, 2008

re: 9:27 am No one cares - "Soccer is a boring, mostly scoreless game that is cheered on in foreign countries by large groups of sub-educated, drunken thugs. Just what we need in the USA."

Are you kidding me? The only uneducated person is you. If you hate soccer so much why do you even read an article that talks about it? People like you think they are so clever to come and bash on a sport that they don't understand. Have you watched any of Euro 2008 so far? That's right I didn't think so because you would rather hate on soccer than learn about it. Please don't ever come near the new stadium when it opens.

Juice Box Guy | 8:52 a.m. June 13, 2008

How come every time this page posts an article about the stadium there is like 70 posts to this article in like a day or two. Enough already! The stadium is here, it is a good deal, MLS is here to stay, ITS NOT YOUR TAX MONEY, Checketts is not the Devil, la la la la la. How come soccer bashing is now an American sport? Why dont you people that post about hating soccer and this stadium go away already? You dont do the same for golf, tennis, Arena football or other sports that are not a part of the "big 4". I dont have to listen every day about how boring the French Open is on a daily basis. Leave us soccer fans in peace already! Its fine you dont get the finer points of our sport, but you are under no obligation to enjoy it or even watch. I am sorry that your mothers dragged you to soccer practice as a kid when you didnt want to go or that BIG KID hit you in the face when he kicked the soccer ball at you. Enough people in SLC care about soccer tomakethe stadium worthwhile.

Steve - Re: Juice Box / Big 4 | 1:23 p.m. June 13, 2008

The "Big 4"?? I can think of 3 (Pro baseball, basketball, and football), but what is the 4th one? Hockey? If so, I'd disagree.

Hockey is down there with golf, tennis and even Arena football... unlike in Canada, the majority of people are indifferent to Pro Hockey. I can't think of a time any of the major/regular TV network channels here in Utah aired a Hockey game other than the Stanley Cup. Real Salt Lake on the other hand actually has games on TV.

But never the less... I'm with you on Pro-Soccer/the MLS and Real Salt Lake, I'm a casual fan of RSL and I can appreciate the game.

All the Soccer haters here who love to congregate on RSL feedback boards and put down the team and the sport just don't realize the U.S. is way behind the rest of the entire globe... Soccer (or Football as it's known elsewhere) is THE biggest sport in the world. Our baseball and football to them are what Soccer currently is to us.

Will Soccer ever be the top U.S. sport? I doubt it, but it could rise and become the 3rd or 4th most popular eventually.

Betting on MLS? | 9:21 p.m. June 16, 2008

The popularity of sports in America is linked to one factor: gambling. NFL rules the sports landscape in this country because of its volume of wagering both legal and illegal. Billions are paid BY the TV networks for broadcast rights to the governing organizations of the NFL, College Football, NBA, and NASCAR (in that order) because those sports have proven TV ratings which are also proportionately linked to levels of gambling activity. By comparison, MLS actually PAYS networks to televise its games, and some aren't even aired live. Soccer wagering is also weak in the U.S. and even on the world stage, MLS is viewed as an inferior brand of the sport. Some of you might want to take a reality check before you bet on RSL or even MSL becoming the next big thing. Forget the stadium...the playing field isn't even close to being equal.

funniness | 11:00 a.m. June 17, 2008

Isn't it funny that people who are predicting the demise of RSL are also the same ones complaining about how traffic is going to increase around the stadium? If nobody is going to soccer games...where is all the traffic coming from?

All whiners should just get off these boards, their claims of failing leagues, wasted tax dollars and calling soccer a boring sport just show how lazy and ignorant they are.

Maybe the DNews should create a posting site for people that want to whine about RSL so that they can get off these boards where real soccer fans want to read.

Utahns love RSL!

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