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Published: Wednesday, June 11 2008 12:06 a.m. MDT

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Reply to Not a polyg

Who are the 12? You must not be aquainted with FLDS since they don't have an organized 12. Looks like you need a little more education as well, like English and spelling. I would suggest some education before you start spouting on the blog sites.

Laying Low

"If there were going to be violence, it would have occurred when CPS was tearing families apart."

Not necessarily. The FLDS enforcers could have been laying low so as not to give Texas any more justification for keeping the kids.

Now that the kids are back, a little retribution wouldn't be out of the question, especially if it serves notice on the some of the FLDS, who might be wavering, on what they can expect if they don't toe the party line.

Gray Wolf

Deseret News:
The heightened security was ordered after authorities from Utah and Arizona warned them to be on the lookout for FLDS "enforcers," the Deseret News has learned.

Something is really wacky for the DI to publish this story, even if it is true. Are you now a "lackey" for law enforcement, or just can't resist stirring the pot?

The newspaper publishing business is hurting, so perhaps anything is justified to keep readership up for the advertisers.

Well, DI, how did you learn the information? I bet it's confidential.

beware of FLDS

I have known some FLDS. I don't think the authorities should back off for one minute on investigating FLDS cultists. They are not what they appear. I think Willy Jessop is one of their ring leaders and as well a very evil man just like the rest. Most of these hateful posts come from FLDS.

New SUVs

Willie and the boys are probably out shopping the new line of SUVs so they'll know which one to buy when their raid windfall profits start to roll in from all of the lawsuits they plan on winning.

Of course, the women and children won't see a penny of the money.

Most of the FLDS are good, decent, law-abiding (except for polygamy) people.

But not all.

beware

Utah has a rich history of religious fanatics, they know what they are looking at from experience. Looking from Texas, we see many in Utah that are very suspicious and you better stay right where you are. Don't come to Texas!

Rick

To: thinkdeeper | 6:29 a.m. June 11, 2008

I agree.

Patricia

Pull your heads out of the sand, people! I simply cannot believe the comments I read on this page. Anyone who knows anyone who's ever been in the FLDS or has ever been around there (or has even seen a documentary on tv or read a book) knows about the trucks that follow outsiders in and out of the community and the intimidation tactics used by the FLDS to keep their women in line and keep them from leaving. Why do you think they had a guard tower built at the YFZ ranch?? To protect their garden from jackrabbits?? Whether you think this judge was right or wrong in her decisions, she absolutely has reason for protection from some of these people based on their history. And, if I were her, circumstantial evidence would be quite enough for me to want to protect myself and my family. Religious fanaticism is at the heart of much violence in this world and those of you that would say this judge deserves some sort of revenge--SHAME ON YOU! And those of you who think the FLDS are not religious fanatics with extremist beliefs, GET A CLUE!

Brillo

Seems like the real question here (which no one seems to be asking) is: Who exactly are the "Utah and Colorado authorities" who started this? I'm getting really tired of anonymous informers.

spiritree

More of the 'smear' effort to justify the actions of texas officials against a community of citizens. Where is the proof? If there are those who are gunning for this judge, I use the honorable term loosely in her case, why are you warning them? Paranoid is not the word here, they are trying to cover there behinds and limit law suits that are coming. Why to the people of Texas tolerated this miss use of there officials and the excessive misuse of tax payers money. Shame on Texas!

Not all

Not all of any of us are good, decent, law-abiding people. Unfortunately.

Texan

I have lived in Texas all of my life and I resent the fact that all of Texas is being made fun of--I and my family had nothing to do with the raid on the ranch so please quit generalizing and be more specific. Thank You

Raymond Takashi Swenson

It is certainly appropriate to give Judge Walther security protection. Millions of Americans hate her for her high-handed actions in violation of statute and the 14th Amendment. She could be targeted by a wacko like Timothy McVeigh who has nothing to do with the FLDS people but looks for ways to violently express an amorphous rage against perceived government oppression.

On the other hand, a news-gathering organization like the DMN should have the research capability to actually identify any violent crimes committed by FLDS people in the dossier. The fact that none of the people whose names are used in this story are actually associated with a specific charge of criminal violence, let alone a conviction, makes the entire story questionable. Making accusations of potential criminal action by people who have never been charged or convicted, who have not themselves actually uttered a threat, and who are not for other reasons public figures, may open the DMN to litigation for defamation of character. If I were Mr. Cannon, I would have removed the names from this piece unless there was specific evidence of specific threats or violent behavior, not subjective "he looked at me funny" assertions by the prejudiced.

WashCo

Those of you that don't believe that danger for the judge is possible don't live around these folks. Remember Ervil Lebaron?, the same thought processes are still there. The goon squads are still there. Ask some of the "lost boys" if there is danger. Ask some of the women who have managed to escape if there is danger. You bet she needs protection.

Turnaround...

...is fair play.

Stupid

This is so stupid. The judge is more likely at risk from a psyco NOT FLDS, then from one of them. LAME!

I'm so scared

This is getting out of control. There is absolutely NO evidence that Judge Walther is in any danger and the moment the FLDS realized that a non-FLDS owned site had posted her home address and phone number they asked the owner of the site remove it.

They have had ample opportunities for violence but have not resorted to it. Let's not forget the Utah officials who convicted Warren Jeffs? Who has been killed by the FLDS for the arrest and conviction of their leader? NO ONE!

I guess the staring contest at Jeff's trial where Jessop gave that threatening "look" didn't amount to action since we haven't received any news that the Judge, jury, prosecutor or arresting officers have been harmed. When was Jeffs convicted? It was in September of last year and it has been almost 9 months since the conviction.

They didn't react violently to that conviction nor did they react violently when the police showed up at the YMZ Ranch, nor did they react violently when their children were taken by CPS workers, and they didn't react violently when the Judge ruled against them instead THEY REGISTER TO VOTE. That's really scary!

due dilegence

Texas should do it's due dilegence in investagating the dribble. We don't want threats and intimidation that have been propagated in times past to continue.

Research this and you will find it true.

Grandpa Phil

"I'm so scared" has made the best point yet. Well done.

They are making things up

Raymond Takashi Swenson,

"Making accusations of potential criminal action by people who have never been charged or convicted, who have not themselves actually uttered a threat, and who are not for other reasons public figures, may open the DMN to litigation for defamation of character."

They could always use the defense that they are reporting a story about the persons in questions but laws against defamation of character protect private individuals from having any defamatory statements printed about them.

"If I were Mr. Cannon, I would have removed the names from this piece unless there was specific evidence of specific threats or violent behavior, not subjective "he looked at me funny" assertions by the prejudiced."

There's no evidence of any violent behavior and such assertions are false. It has been 9 months since they claimed that Willie Jessop looked at them funny yet no one has been harmed. If they haven't killed any one in the 9 months since Jeff's conviction I doubt they are planning it anytime soon.

The only thing that the FLDS have done in Texas since the Supreme Court ruling that's threatening is REGISTERING TO VOTE.

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