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Beware of FLDS enforcers, Texas told
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Ed H | 12:47 a.m. June 11, 2008
Gee, not those peaceful, religious poligamists. Oh yeah, there was Ervil
Labaron. Wasn't his clan a break-off of the Short Creek (Colorado City)
group... the very one who is now in Texas? How many did he and his clan murder?
And some of their victims were also in Texas.
The Governments Hit List | 1:07 a.m. June 11, 2008
There isn't a shred of evidence that any of these people have killed or
harmed anyone. FLDS spokesman Jessop said:
"The fact that we would show up in court and then to have them turn that around on us shows how biased these public officials are,...There are no facts, no history of violence, not a shred of evidence to support these irresponsible allegations. Not one bit of it is true and these officials know it."
I guess anyone who attends a Court proceeding had better be prepared to be singled out as a threat. Don't attend your 15 year old brother's court hearing or you might be labeled a threat and have the police decide create a dossier on you. When did attending a Court hearing become a crime warranting the government creating a dossier on you? Those who have such dossiers on them have every to fear for themselves and their families when neighbors who serve as public officials start sending one another a "hit list." Posting Walther's number is a threat but giving an entire dossier on FLDS members isnt?
Maybe a dossier should be created on each of the people responsible for these dossiers (i.e., threats).
"The fact that we would show up in court and then to have them turn that around on us shows how biased these public officials are,...There are no facts, no history of violence, not a shred of evidence to support these irresponsible allegations. Not one bit of it is true and these officials know it."
I guess anyone who attends a Court proceeding had better be prepared to be singled out as a threat. Don't attend your 15 year old brother's court hearing or you might be labeled a threat and have the police decide create a dossier on you. When did attending a Court hearing become a crime warranting the government creating a dossier on you? Those who have such dossiers on them have every to fear for themselves and their families when neighbors who serve as public officials start sending one another a "hit list." Posting Walther's number is a threat but giving an entire dossier on FLDS members isnt?
Maybe a dossier should be created on each of the people responsible for these dossiers (i.e., threats).
awesomeron | 1:38 a.m. June 11, 2008
So this Hero Judge is now being threatened by people out side the FLDS Group.
All I can say is that Federal Law Applies. A disturbed person can act alone, has
more success alone, and the best chance to complete his/her task alone. I see
this as sending a message. That Sherrill Law in the name of Culture is here, and
it is not just the People from the Middle East that you have to been concerned
about. Some people watch and when there is a lack of will in one area of Law
Enforcement, there can usually find weaknesses in other areas. If they do not
let us have our way then we will cry and complain and make the Law Enforcement
People look like the bad guy. The Judge did the right thing and the Police and
CPS did the right thing. Forced Marriage and Brainwashing are against the law.
Forced Marriage and Sex with underage Girls is some degree of Rape. When the
Slaves where Freed many did not leave. There was No Place to go, Children and
shelter and the next meal had to be thought about. Can't Read, Can't
Write, etc. So many stayed.
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Thomas | 2:44 a.m. June 11, 2008
The Flds has no history of violnece. Labaron was not part of this group. The
most htis group can be accused of is menacing stares at the trail of Warren
Jeffs.
Eye Dee Ten Tee | 3:27 a.m. June 11, 2008
Just let Judge Walther worry about political and legal repercussions. She let a
little authority go to her head and bit off more than she could chew.
Adam Swap is still in prison, John Singer and Ervil Lebaron are worm food, and if violence was going to happen it would have.
Adam Swap is still in prison, John Singer and Ervil Lebaron are worm food, and if violence was going to happen it would have.
Emma | 3:41 a.m. June 11, 2008
That's what happens when you believe gossip.
who??? | 3:41 a.m. June 11, 2008
I'd worry a whole lot more about all those foamin, dancin Baptists.
Nothing is more dedicated than a Baptist wih God's message.
Granted, it IS hard to tell where their instructions come from, though.
Nothing is more dedicated than a Baptist wih God's message.
Granted, it IS hard to tell where their instructions come from, though.
one ques? | 4:49 a.m. June 11, 2008
How is it that a judge's address and phone number would be in a public
phone book? I hardly doubt that. And I have seen some news coverages here where
this sect of people are not very nice and polite as they claim to be in this
article. They just know that now they have been discovered and so have their
true colors and they just want to try to cover all of it up. Sorry I don't
by that they are all that peaceful and would do no harm to anybody.
R.S. | 4:50 a.m. June 11, 2008
I find it interesting when people claim that everyone else is wrong about them,
when evidence points the opposite. Let's see...and I am not pointing
fingers, but it is interesting that the Govenor's Mansion in Austin burned
down and ruled arson.....and now the warnings from Arizona and Utah.....makes me
scratch my head. From the article, I can definitely see where Willie Jessop or
Willie the Thug would intimidate people...watch the program on 48 Hours that was
completed about Polygamy and watch his body language.
This group presents as a peaceful religious group, however comments made in this article, on the forums and in interviews made through direct comments and inuendos lead one to believe that they are not as peaceful as they want you to believe.
Think fire ants....as long as you leave them alone they don't bother you, but when you stir the nest look out. We have seen this through the media blitz'.
As I read the article the word "mob" comes to mind....same concept, just not behind the word religious.
I know I will get blasted for my statements, but I am tired of the portrayals being made that these folks are innocent. They are not.
This group presents as a peaceful religious group, however comments made in this article, on the forums and in interviews made through direct comments and inuendos lead one to believe that they are not as peaceful as they want you to believe.
Think fire ants....as long as you leave them alone they don't bother you, but when you stir the nest look out. We have seen this through the media blitz'.
As I read the article the word "mob" comes to mind....same concept, just not behind the word religious.
I know I will get blasted for my statements, but I am tired of the portrayals being made that these folks are innocent. They are not.
Wilbur | 4:56 a.m. June 11, 2008
Ed H | 12:47 a.m. June 11, 2008
"How many did he and his clan murder? And some of their victims were also in Texas."
Answer: None
Any more questions, Mr. Ed?
"How many did he and his clan murder? And some of their victims were also in Texas."
Answer: None
Any more questions, Mr. Ed?
donn | 5:06 a.m. June 11, 2008
Who had the guns,who had the APC,who had the sniper oh and who was going to use
them against women and children ? Now they are worried that someone got mad
anything to help their cause.
NormM | 5:12 a.m. June 11, 2008
Ed H - Wow, are you off-base.
For the record, I'm not FLDS, but I have researched this subject. Better bone up on your 'Polygamy 101'. I suggest 'Mormon Polygamy - A History' by Anderson as a study text. It accurately describes the origin and history of mormon polygamy within the church, and how the various groups started, what their basic beliefs are, and a history of each.
Ervil Lebaron was never associated with the group from 'Short Creek' (FLDS). The FLDS has a long history of being passive, and will likely continue to remain so.
For the record, I'm not FLDS, but I have researched this subject. Better bone up on your 'Polygamy 101'. I suggest 'Mormon Polygamy - A History' by Anderson as a study text. It accurately describes the origin and history of mormon polygamy within the church, and how the various groups started, what their basic beliefs are, and a history of each.
Ervil Lebaron was never associated with the group from 'Short Creek' (FLDS). The FLDS has a long history of being passive, and will likely continue to remain so.
NormM | 5:14 a.m. June 11, 2008
'Judge' Walther has more to fear from within the legal/judicial system
than she does from any supposed threat from the FLDS, for her blatant disregard
for Texas law. Her judicial decisions were ruled illegal by the appeals court,
AND the Texas supreme court.
No one's likely to hurt Walther - she's enough of a menace to herself. I suspect she's already destroyed any chance she had of advancing her career on the bench by her lack of judicial skill and disregard for individual liberties guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
Here goes Texas again, wasting more tax money on yet another lie.
No one's likely to hurt Walther - she's enough of a menace to herself. I suspect she's already destroyed any chance she had of advancing her career on the bench by her lack of judicial skill and disregard for individual liberties guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.
Here goes Texas again, wasting more tax money on yet another lie.
With.... | 5:17 a.m. June 11, 2008
violence known to have occurred in between Polygamist groups in the past and of
course between them and the general public too, I think it is a wise idea to
beef up security for officials involved in this incident...
She should be protected | 5:37 a.m. June 11, 2008
Let's not forget the daughter-in-law and her child whos throats were slit
due to "revelation from God"
because they were apostates not keeping covenants they had made.
In every religion there are crazy freaks... who I wouldn't trust any further than I could throw them.
remember .... "we are law abiding citizens..." breaking the law daily by living polygamy!!!
because they were apostates not keeping covenants they had made.
In every religion there are crazy freaks... who I wouldn't trust any further than I could throw them.
remember .... "we are law abiding citizens..." breaking the law daily by living polygamy!!!
Surge | 5:41 a.m. June 11, 2008
Here we go with the rumors again. Where's an example of some
"violence" from any of these people? Has it ever been shown? I can
make up rumors and accusations all day long about any person I want, but it
doesn't change the truth.
If having a strange expression during a court hearing constitutes violent behavior, then Judge Walther should immediately be removed from office. I mean, look at her expression in the picture here. That's got to be intimidating to someone, right? I think I'll notify law enforcement. Everyone, be on the lookout.
If having a strange expression during a court hearing constitutes violent behavior, then Judge Walther should immediately be removed from office. I mean, look at her expression in the picture here. That's got to be intimidating to someone, right? I think I'll notify law enforcement. Everyone, be on the lookout.
Stephen | 5:52 a.m. June 11, 2008
Let the witch hunt begin.
Rednael | 5:53 a.m. June 11, 2008
It seems Texas will lie any lie to shift the "thug" spotlight off of
themselves back onto the very people that they were persecuting.
I remember the resident thug in my middle-school beat the stuffing out of a kid and then claimed that the kid had been "staring" at him.
I see absolutely no difference with the situation in this story.
I remember the resident thug in my middle-school beat the stuffing out of a kid and then claimed that the kid had been "staring" at him.
I see absolutely no difference with the situation in this story.
AZ | 6:08 a.m. June 11, 2008
Gee, was the threast made by 'Sarah'? Here goes Texas again.
Whatever! | 6:12 a.m. June 11, 2008
Oh Please! Now we'll get all the weirdo Danite believers posting. Please
let these people go in peace!
thinkdeeper | 6:29 a.m. June 11, 2008
What Ed H?, These people had there children ripped out of there arms by the
state, no violence. They had armed men holding there children hostage illegally,
no violence. Then as soon as a little relief comes by the way of the appeals
court, and supreme court they immediately have a press conference and forgive
all. Lets see by your logic all monogamists must be violent because Hitler and
his monogamist group were violent.
Right | 6:32 a.m. June 11, 2008
This sounds like a smear campain to me. Texas is pretty lame.
zxcvbnm | 6:33 a.m. June 11, 2008
Paranoia and gossip still exists as the state continues to demonize the FLDS.
I would not doubt it if the state blames the recent burning of the Governors mansion on the FLDS.
Did you hear the latest..FLDS is responsible for the rise in gas prices.....it's part of the bleed the beast campaign.
Jim D | 6:37 a.m. June 11, 2008
I believe you should check your facts Ed H The Labaron CULT never had ANY
affiliation with the peaceful, religious FLDS People.
Sceptic | 6:37 a.m. June 11, 2008
This just looks like Texas prejudice and deception at work again. These
polygamists were extremely peaceful during this whole ordeal. Why would they
suddenly do this now? Texas is trying to look like the victims here.
What about the picture of this judge? She looks pretty darn scary.
What about the picture of this judge? She looks pretty darn scary.
Teacher and Dad | 6:37 a.m. June 11, 2008
Let's see, who and what should I believe? Should I believe the Texas
authorities with a known history of lying to the FLDS and leaking erroneous
sensationalist tidbits to the news media in order to influence public opinion
against them?
In any case, I agree that its a good idea to protect Judge Walther. Although I totally disagree with her efforts, she shouldn't have to face the threat of damage to her person or property, and this damage could come from any crazy person out there.
However the concept of an "FLDS enforcer" as a threat to her well being seems pretty far fetched. The FLDS have enough on their plate at present, and besides, Walther is just a small fish in the pond at this point.
In any case, I agree that its a good idea to protect Judge Walther. Although I totally disagree with her efforts, she shouldn't have to face the threat of damage to her person or property, and this damage could come from any crazy person out there.
However the concept of an "FLDS enforcer" as a threat to her well being seems pretty far fetched. The FLDS have enough on their plate at present, and besides, Walther is just a small fish in the pond at this point.
Me | 6:40 a.m. June 11, 2008
It's understandable that law enforcement might compile a list like this.
To think that if you take people's kids away from them for no valid reason
that they might want to come after you ain't exactly rocket science. Texas
knows they screwed up big time on this and were way over several lines. The
anger of people all over the US and far from FLDS folks appears to be pretty
thick. Just look at the weight of the letters Texas received against what they
did.
Fortunately I don't believe anyone in the FLDS is stupid enough to come after anyone other than legally and I'd guess Parker and FLDS leadership is exerting some control over the folks they fear may not have the self-control to control their anger over what's happened. There is no evidence, that I know of, of anyone in the FLDS actually doing anything.
Fortunately I don't believe anyone in the FLDS is stupid enough to come after anyone other than legally and I'd guess Parker and FLDS leadership is exerting some control over the folks they fear may not have the self-control to control their anger over what's happened. There is no evidence, that I know of, of anyone in the FLDS actually doing anything.
Anonymous | 6:40 a.m. June 11, 2008
What Ed H, these people had there children ripped out of there arms by the
state, no search warrant, no charges, no warning. No violence. Could you stand
that and stay peaceful. The Flds have. This article is nothing but another hit
peice. If these people were going to resort to violence, they would have
already, they definitely have shown a great example of peace and trusting in
God.
By your above logic then all monogamists must be violent because Hitler and his monogamists were. Grow up. Your decision to believe the views of the state no matter what the evidence is reminds of the 1930's German monogamists.
By your above logic then all monogamists must be violent because Hitler and his monogamists were. Grow up. Your decision to believe the views of the state no matter what the evidence is reminds of the 1930's German monogamists.
Me | 6:44 a.m. June 11, 2008
BTW, about 1 minute of googling will tell you that Evril not only had nothing to
do with the FLDS but considered them enemies. Perhaps we should be laying the
sins of Catholic Priests and leaders of Evangelical organizations against
everyone in those religions?
Fanatic? | 6:45 a.m. June 11, 2008
I thought name calling was not allowed
Quite clear we have a Judge that went to far
I know some Judges in Utah that are real JERKS
We mave a major problem getting JUSTICE in the Courts
We saw Waco, This is a good example.
Warfare weapons on the front!
Now we have the FLDS fiasco with a Jerk of a Judge that screwed up ROYAL.
Just had to push her luck and hurt the kids without evidence
This is America?
Quite clear we have a Judge that went to far
I know some Judges in Utah that are real JERKS
We mave a major problem getting JUSTICE in the Courts
We saw Waco, This is a good example.
Warfare weapons on the front!
Now we have the FLDS fiasco with a Jerk of a Judge that screwed up ROYAL.
Just had to push her luck and hurt the kids without evidence
This is America?
Janet | 6:49 a.m. June 11, 2008
Barbara Walthers has nothing to fear from the FLDS, if she fears it is because
there is a just God in Heaven and she has a guilty concience.
Barbara Walthers:
We do not make judgments against you and forgive you for your offenses toward us and leave the matter in the hands of God. Good luck.
Barbara Walthers:
We do not make judgments against you and forgive you for your offenses toward us and leave the matter in the hands of God. Good luck.
Anonymous | 6:55 a.m. June 11, 2008
It's the polygamists who need to be protected from the likes of Barbara
Walther. Pull the police off her and let them protect those who have been truly
abused, harmed, and violated by the state. Walther shouldn't be killed,
that's murder, but she should be impeached, she should resign in shame, she
should go back to law school and take constitution 101--she obviously skipped
out on that class.
Guilty until proven innocent | 7:02 a.m. June 11, 2008
I am amazed this paper would print this all this does is incite more abuse
towards the FLDS
kg | 7:07 a.m. June 11, 2008
Come on Deseret News. This is rumor and gossip to fan the flames against the
FLDS, more hearsay and baseless allegations. Where is the proof of a threat of
violence? There was none when the ranch was raided and there's been none in
the two months since. They've had plenty of reason to be furious and react
violently. I haven't seen them do that. The site you mention is not theirs,
it was started by a citizen outraged at the violation of rights who wanted to
speak out for the FLDS. They had nothing to do with it.
Anonymous | 7:14 a.m. June 11, 2008
If the Patriot Act is being used in investigating the FLDS (Was there not a
federal warrant in the raid, was it for wire tapping? Remember how Waco was
bugged?) we will never know because all the eavesdroppings and investigation are
all done in secret. All those associated with them, contributers, supporters,
etc., could be investigated too.
I think those families don't want to go back to the ranch because they dont' want their every last word being recorded.
IF those folks were violent they would have done soemthing when CPS first came, the mothers would have made a run for it while in custody. Nothing happened. They allowed the government to take their kids and were completely passive about it. These rumors about them being violent are the laughable result of hysteria.
I think those families don't want to go back to the ranch because they dont' want their every last word being recorded.
IF those folks were violent they would have done soemthing when CPS first came, the mothers would have made a run for it while in custody. Nothing happened. They allowed the government to take their kids and were completely passive about it. These rumors about them being violent are the laughable result of hysteria.
Non-FLDS | 7:15 a.m. June 11, 2008
So one of the chief antagonists of Texas CPS is Bill Medvecky, a Florida
resident. I wonder what his personal beef is with CPS. Did CPS take his kids
away because he was abusing them? It's obvious that many of the posts on
this blog have been written by him, especially the many, many posts referring to
his impeach the judge petition.
An "innocent" stare in a court is not so innocent if the stare is intended to intimidate a witness or a juror. That's tampering, and it is against the law in EVERY state, despite Willie's pretended innocence.
Awaiting responses from Bill and Willie.
An "innocent" stare in a court is not so innocent if the stare is intended to intimidate a witness or a juror. That's tampering, and it is against the law in EVERY state, despite Willie's pretended innocence.
Awaiting responses from Bill and Willie.
jr | 7:21 a.m. June 11, 2008
Now we know why our AG has done nothing - he is afraid of the hit mob from the
religious fanatics of the FLDS group
Re: kg | 7:32 a.m. June 11, 2008
The Deseret News is not saying these people are a threat, they are reporting on
what has happened. The dossier's are what label these people as a threat,
not the newspaper.
Anyone that thinks Jessop wasn't trying to intimidate witnesses at Warren Jeff's trial, is a fool.
Anyone that thinks Jessop wasn't trying to intimidate witnesses at Warren Jeff's trial, is a fool.
ediddy | 7:40 a.m. June 11, 2008
It is interesting to see the rumor begin again to crank up. Tips and informants.
Retribution. Give it a rest. The innuendo didn't stand up to scrutiny
before and it won't here. It is far more likely that those who have
disgraced themselves in the CPS and Eldorado system are still spinning info to
make themselves look the victim. It is likely that they choose to see in others
what they harbor in their own hearts. The "rampant" abuse slime
didn't stick with the original assault on these people. Let's see if
the murderer and vigilante gossip will stick. I suggest we leave these people
alone and mind our own affairs for a while.
Not too uncommon | 7:42 a.m. June 11, 2008
I admit it seems perhaps a little excessive, but we do not know all of the
details.
Truth is, when there are cases that make become as public as this has become nationally, extra protection for those involved is not uncommon. It typically doesn't make the news this much, but not uncommon.
One crazed person, FLDS or not, can decide to take matters into his/her own hand. If something did happen with no action taken for protection, just imagine the backlash.
Truth is, when there are cases that make become as public as this has become nationally, extra protection for those involved is not uncommon. It typically doesn't make the news this much, but not uncommon.
One crazed person, FLDS or not, can decide to take matters into his/her own hand. If something did happen with no action taken for protection, just imagine the backlash.
Not a polyg but know several | 7:46 a.m. June 11, 2008
Thomas,
Yes the FLDS does have a history of violence. I have a close friend who too her boys from it in the days of Leroy Johnson, and Jeffs Dad.
She was kidnapped from a job. Held in seclusion.
He son that stayed, has been ostercized by Jeffs, everything taken from him, including his home and belongings.
I have had business with Jeffs @ the Ex- Alta Acadamy......There are "Enforcers" in the Group that act under the rule of the Prophet and the 12.
Lets not be naive...Lets just be educated and prepared.
Many Polygs are helpless and unassuming...But there are they who will Protect and Serve!!!
No matter what Snow, Christiansen and Martineau and Parker Say.
Yes the FLDS does have a history of violence. I have a close friend who too her boys from it in the days of Leroy Johnson, and Jeffs Dad.
She was kidnapped from a job. Held in seclusion.
He son that stayed, has been ostercized by Jeffs, everything taken from him, including his home and belongings.
I have had business with Jeffs @ the Ex- Alta Acadamy......There are "Enforcers" in the Group that act under the rule of the Prophet and the 12.
Lets not be naive...Lets just be educated and prepared.
Many Polygs are helpless and unassuming...But there are they who will Protect and Serve!!!
No matter what Snow, Christiansen and Martineau and Parker Say.
Bruce | 7:47 a.m. June 11, 2008
This is laughable. "Enforcers" indeed. If there were going to be
violence, it would have occurred when CPS was tearing families apart.
What a lame attempt to sway public opinion. I guess next they'll need to stage something and blame it on the FLDS.
The whole nation sees through this cheap charade, texas. Try something else.
What a lame attempt to sway public opinion. I guess next they'll need to stage something and blame it on the FLDS.
The whole nation sees through this cheap charade, texas. Try something else.
Liz | 7:50 a.m. June 11, 2008
The FLDS have done nothing but lie. I wouldn't trust them one bit.
bhparkman | 7:53 a.m. June 11, 2008
Uncle Warren's Sons of Helaman (aka: the God Squad, Missionaries) were a
great internal threat to the FLDS for a long time. Numbering around 75 - 150, or
more. But this concept of Enforcer is new to the FLDS ranks. It is known that
some of the adults are a threat to the Second Ward exiles, and surrounding
communities, but not so much to the general public or LDS folks.
They consider us a beast for bleeding (welfare) and ripe in wickedness. They may not be suicidal as to attack the rest of us in a holy war, but the circumstances changed when Texas did a second Short Creek. Who knows what will happen now.
Records in this paper, the Trib, and many others state the FLDS has access to at least 3 Cessna aircraft, several types of vehicles, and are known to carry small arms (handguns, hunting rifles, shotguns). So they have the arms to do some damage, but nothing like our National Guard.
I think Texas is frightened, and rightfully so. They have the right to self-defense and they should be armed. If the FLDS decide to commit political and social suicide, then that's their look-out.
They consider us a beast for bleeding (welfare) and ripe in wickedness. They may not be suicidal as to attack the rest of us in a holy war, but the circumstances changed when Texas did a second Short Creek. Who knows what will happen now.
Records in this paper, the Trib, and many others state the FLDS has access to at least 3 Cessna aircraft, several types of vehicles, and are known to carry small arms (handguns, hunting rifles, shotguns). So they have the arms to do some damage, but nothing like our National Guard.
I think Texas is frightened, and rightfully so. They have the right to self-defense and they should be armed. If the FLDS decide to commit political and social suicide, then that's their look-out.
Is registering to vote threateni | 7:58 a.m. June 11, 2008
thinkdeeper,
"What Ed H?, These people had there children ripped out of there arms by the state, no violence. They had armed men holding there children hostage illegally, no violence. Then as soon as a little relief comes by the way of the appeals court, and supreme court they immediately have a press conference and forgive all. Lets see by your logic all monogamists must be violent because Hitler and his monogamist group were violent."
These people want us to believe that the FLDS are somehow going to harm or kill someone out of some desire for revenge. The only revenge I have seen from the FLDS is them going to the County Clerk's and picking up voter registration forms by the hundreds. What was the response of the local Sheriff? He said that he feared they would "mess with THEIR elections."
I'm not worried about the safety of this Judge, the Sheriff, County officials or CPS workers because the only threatening action of the FLDS has been them obtaining hundreds of voter registration forms. Watch your back Sheriff and Judge because they are going to try to vote you morons out of office.
"What Ed H?, These people had there children ripped out of there arms by the state, no violence. They had armed men holding there children hostage illegally, no violence. Then as soon as a little relief comes by the way of the appeals court, and supreme court they immediately have a press conference and forgive all. Lets see by your logic all monogamists must be violent because Hitler and his monogamist group were violent."
These people want us to believe that the FLDS are somehow going to harm or kill someone out of some desire for revenge. The only revenge I have seen from the FLDS is them going to the County Clerk's and picking up voter registration forms by the hundreds. What was the response of the local Sheriff? He said that he feared they would "mess with THEIR elections."
I'm not worried about the safety of this Judge, the Sheriff, County officials or CPS workers because the only threatening action of the FLDS has been them obtaining hundreds of voter registration forms. Watch your back Sheriff and Judge because they are going to try to vote you morons out of office.
caution--beware | 8:10 a.m. June 11, 2008
FLDS are known liars--only a fool would trust them. No one knows what they
might be capable of. . . their whole life is based on deceit and flouting the
law.
IA | 8:12 a.m. June 11, 2008
I would love to see a follow up on who actually provided this info to Texas
officials.
I think this is desparate atempt to excite the public against the FLDS. Once again go after the criminals in the FLDS community not the community.
I think this is desparate atempt to excite the public against the FLDS. Once again go after the criminals in the FLDS community not the community.
Matthew | 8:14 a.m. June 11, 2008
When did US law enforcement stop even trying to base their actions of facts and
evidence instead of emotion driven imagination?
My guess is that there are a lot of crazies out there that the judge and some others involved need to be afraid of. But I bet not one of them is a member of the FLDS.
Staring at someone to whom you feel animosity seems like a pretty healthy and normal outlet compared to what many do.
My guess is that there are a lot of crazies out there that the judge and some others involved need to be afraid of. But I bet not one of them is a member of the FLDS.
Staring at someone to whom you feel animosity seems like a pretty healthy and normal outlet compared to what many do.
Mark | 8:14 a.m. June 11, 2008
Not only are they STUPID in Texas, they're now also PARANOID! I heard they
were also looking out for space aliens who traveled all the way across our
galaxy, just to peer in their windows. Oh my!
Dribble | 8:20 a.m. June 11, 2008
Why is it that when the state didn't do it's due dilegence in
investagating a hoax phone call and then the courts tell them to go back and
start over why is it that they try the same case in the media? This is the same
dribble that has been propagated in times past. If you will only research this
you will find it true.
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