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Utah Jazz: Team gets a closer look at Roy Hibbert

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Anonymous | 12:14 a.m. June 4, 2008
Hey, don't give up on Johny Bryant. He is as good as some of good shooters in NBA like Eddie house and salim Staudmier.
Plaisted a first round lock | 12:23 a.m. June 4, 2008
You can bank on it! Trent Plaisted would definitely go in the first round of a city league draft. He might even go in the top 12 if the city were the size of say Ephraim or certainly Sterling.

Laugh all you want, but I know he would be there. He is that good!
utefan | 4:43 a.m. June 4, 2008
I am not sure if Plaisted would be top 12 in Epraim but in Axtell he would be the number one first round pick! Wow, did this kid get bad advice or have an inflated view of his talents and this year's pool of players. Making himself available was the biggest financial mistake of his life...to date.
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Plaisted Rules! | 6:27 a.m. June 4, 2008
Plaisted should be first round pick for the JAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eugene | 6:28 a.m. June 4, 2008
So how do you improve the Jazz? What do they need to get over the top? Who do you trade? Scoring is not the problem since they were in the tops of the league in scoring so to win more games they need to make the opposing team score less and be more consistent throughout the game. Maybe an imposing center like Hibbert might be good, maybe trade up for a proven center in the free agent market.

Those safe from trade? D-Will, Okur, Boozer, AK, Korver, Almond (led D-league scoring), Brewer, Milsap, Price & Miles. All performed where assigned. Possible trade-outs? Collins (annual non-factor), Harpring (love'im, but age is there), Fesenko (coming on, but fast enough?), and Hart (what did he do for us?).
Anonymous | 6:44 a.m. June 4, 2008
The Jazz can give me an awesome birthday present (birthday is the day of the draft) if they drat Hibbert in the first round. And picking up Ewing Jr. in the second.
re:Plaisted first round lock? | 6:44 a.m. June 4, 2008
OK, I buy your city league arguement, and going top twelve in an "Ephraim/Sterling" size city? Sure...


But...

now hear me out...

What if it was a "county" say the size of Fillmore, or Millard, and then compare that to Utah, or Salt Lake Caounty -- I'm thinking they late second round -- Davis, he might move up to mid second.

That's why I think that because the draft hits the whole country, for him to be taken in the second round, they are just going to have to go deeper, with more second rounds, just keep naming them "the next second round", like he might be drafted in the 35th "second round" of the day.

That's because I am a real cougar fan, and Trent's "psyche" can be thrown off a bit. He's gonna need a huge "entourage", and while I won't be traveling with him, I hope he gets the right people.
Ridiculous-Plaisted | 6:53 a.m. June 4, 2008
Just another case of a big tall young man with big dreams. How in the world does he think he can make it in the best league in all of basketball, when he couldn't even dominate at his position in a very average college conference? Should have got your degree first big fella. You'll need it out in the competitive world of work. What a sad mistake.
GOOD PICK!!! | 7:10 a.m. June 4, 2008
Hibbert would give the Jazz some interior defense he is a huge upgrade from Collins I think Hibbert is a great pick for the Jazz!!!
James | 7:22 a.m. June 4, 2008
I am true BYU blue but to think that Plaisted will go first round is just plain old nuts. I seriously doubt he will even get drafted. I do think he plays ball in Europe or Asia and makes some good money, which is more than most can say about professional basketball.

Plaisted has good footwork and plays well with his back to the rim but he would have been mediocre night in and night out in other conferences. He is good, just not first round good.
Plaisted | 7:27 a.m. June 4, 2008
I like BYU but I there is no way that Trent Plaisted is a 1st round pick. He won't be a 2nd round pick. He probably will be sign on with a team after the draft.
I love Hibbert | 7:29 a.m. June 4, 2008
I hope Hibbert is around at the 23rd pick!
What??? | 7:41 a.m. June 4, 2008
Johnnie Bryant will be lucky to have a couple year career oversea's. He is not even half as good as House and Staudmier... ---and that's not saying a lot---
The last time the jazz drafted | 7:51 a.m. June 4, 2008
a twin from stanford they got Collins. Hopefully they won't draft Lopez. Plaisted should've stayed at Provo because now he is Moscow bound.
Re: Plaisted a first round lock | 7:54 a.m. June 4, 2008
You can laugh and make fun of him all you want, but come fall he will be making more money then you will see in a life time playing either in the NBA or in Europe.
Trent Plaisted | 8:07 a.m. June 4, 2008
I dont think Plaisted is good enough to make it in the NBA but I have seen mock drafts where he goes late in the first round to first half of second round. Even if he rides the bench his whole career, he is still going to be worth millions of dollars when he is done. I wouldnt mind being in that position.
McDuck | 8:10 a.m. June 4, 2008
Hey, I take pride in my ability to get winded on my walk to the fridge and get beatin off the dribble by 14 year olds in church ball. It elevates my soul when I put icy hot on my back as I sit on a conference call in the office under life draining flourescent lighting. Good luck to Plaisted, he'll get to play somewhere and play better than 99.**% of the people on planet earth, maybe not at the NBA level, but good enough to get paid for it. I'd rather be shooting jumpers than chewing on an office phone. As for the Jazz, Hear! Hear! To another lathargic, unmotivated 7 footer who irritates all fans with his great potential, and less than mediocre results.
Sounds Good | 8:56 a.m. June 4, 2008
Let's see, he's 7'2" not from Kansas and not named Greg Osterdud. I'm listening. Sounds good to me!

I'm not so sure about Robin Lopez. The last time we put all our eggs in a basket named Lopez (as in Raul) it didn't work out so swell for us.
jtfacts | 9:14 a.m. June 4, 2008
People love to compare a person's college career with what he could do in college. How is JJ Reddick career going? I can guarantee you Hibbert will not be available come the 23rd pick. I don't have a lot of faith in the competency of NBA GM's, but a legit 7'2" center who can score and defend. He SHOULD go in the top 10.
Panicked response | 9:19 a.m. June 4, 2008
"come fall he will be making more money then you will see in a life time"

Wow. It's like that?
To all Plaisted fans | 9:28 a.m. June 4, 2008
I don't think anyone is actually mocking Plaisted, and if tehy are they fools. Plaisted is a great player, and has a definate pro carreer ahead of him somewhere in the world, but this is an amazing draft class and he MIGHT not be drafted when caompared to what is available, especially in terms of big men. While he did great against ranked teams he was almost non-existant against a worse than normal Utah team. He needs to develop that consistancy to become an NBA player. That is why he should have stayed in college another year.
Waisted Pick/Year | 9:37 a.m. June 4, 2008
I am a Ute fan, I think plaisted has the talent to play in Europe and maybee the NBA, He should help him self out and stay one more year to up his stock. If the Jazz take him in the second it would be a waisted pick.
dhatchpittsburgh | 9:39 a.m. June 4, 2008
Do not draft Hibbert. I've watched him play in person and he is amazingly slow and lazy. He is 7'2" which is intriguing but mark my words he will never amount to much more than a Jarron Collins. Take your chances with Fesenko, much more upside. Trade your first round pick and Kirilenko for Tayshaun Prince and you'll have a championship one year from now.
BYU Fan (Utah County) | 9:59 a.m. June 4, 2008
All this tongue in cheek baloney regarding Plaisted is hogwash. He will play professionaly somewhere, so what's the U. of U. fans comments got to do with any of this? As to the subject: Hibbert, I don't feel comfortable about having an east coast big man being drafted. I don't recall the name, but I remember some of the circumstances surrounding one big man from the east coast playing for the Jazz and ending up at a truck stop in the western desert, disoriented, etc. I don't think these players fit in for Utah....as in no environment for them....as in "you play in Utah". Drafting at No. 23 is purely a crapshoot. This draft, in total is very mediocre. Big men are always intriging in the draft, but if the Georgetown center is available I suppose he could be drafted, and if things look better some other direction, he could be packaged and then go another direction. The Jazz need big bodies, who are mobile....as in can move their feet. Fesenko is a project, but as long as Kirilenko is on the roster, he is someone the Jazz need to develop.

Go Jazz!!!
plaisted | 10:00 a.m. June 4, 2008
For anyone who says Plaisted should not have left early, he has actually stated that he will be graduating this year and has finished all his course work. So he could stay in Utah and play college ball - which is extremely limited to the amount of time they can play per week, or he can test himself against good talent in the D-league. Which sounds better financially?
Moto X | 10:08 a.m. June 4, 2008
re:jt facts--you make an interesting point. JJ Reddick was all over the Des news and the other paper here in town last year same time as "the player we need". Now it is Hibbert. Both NBA busts.

All people talk about is "potential" (a four letter word to coaches) with him. He is huge and can not even dominate against College kids. He will do real well in the NBA--right. There is a reason a guy that is 7'2" is projected to go at 23--he is subaverage with little upside. Everyone knows you can't teach height but he is still not even getting a sniff in the top 15??? That ought to tell you alot right there.

I am with dhatchpittsburgh--we already have Fess who has spent a year learning the Jazz system. Fess is far more athletic than Hibbert. Hibbert is known for being lazy--how do you think that will go over with Sloan?? 1st rounder salary and then living in the D-League waiting to get called up which will likely never happen.

What you see is what you get and if you have not watched him play in College then don't ask for the Jazz to draft him.
BYU fans | 10:09 a.m. June 4, 2008
Something to consider for you BYU fans. Trent Plaisted is going to have himself a nice career. Maybe not as an NBA star, but most likely in Europe, where in some places he can make almost as much money as the NBA can pay him. Despite that reality, BYU fans continue to pile on this guy for what they consider a bad decision on his part.

Truth is BYU fans, the reason it's a bad decision is because it adversely affects your prospects for next season. This has nothing to do with Plaisted, and everything to do with you, a bunch of selfish fans. Get over yorselves and let the man decide what's best for him, not for you.
embarrassed BYU fan | 10:16 a.m. June 4, 2008
I am embarrassed to be a BYU fan today because of all these delusional Cougar fans that think it is a great idea for Trent to go pro. He wasn't even the best player on a team that ran through a mediocre MWC and flopped in the NCAA yet again (Cummard was), and he thinks he can make it into the NBA? If he would have come back, worked on this game and his free-throws, maybe he would be able to make it. I guess now, we should all wish him the best in Italy, Turkey or Siberia.
All my fellow BYU fans, you are just as delusional as Trent is if you're defending his jump to the NBA. Find something more useful to argue about.
adrian | 10:33 a.m. June 4, 2008
we need a center yes. but i think a better pick for the jazz would be to get a really good shooting guard brewer is good no question about it but, we need some that can score brewer is a d-fencive player but we need someone that can take the game over if deron williams is not in the game, like o.j. mayo he would be a solid pick up for offense
Know what your talking about | 10:34 a.m. June 4, 2008
To Ridculous-Plaisted, you might want to know what you are talking about before pittying a young man who is going to make millions over the space of a few years whether he plays or not. He already earned his degree in Economics, in 3 years! He graduated and was smart enough to realize he hadn't improved much over the past 3 years in college and so why wasted another year not getting paid when he wasnt going to up his draft stock. He will get in, get his money while he can, and move on from there. You can't blame him for that, it was his best option. You can only dream of the same opportunity so quit pittying him, his life is much better than yours.
Sokel | 10:41 a.m. June 4, 2008
We would be crazy to pass up Hibbert. In November,
some mock drafts had him selected at number 5 in the
draft. I just hope they get that one shot blocker,
as the Mavericks had before he was traded to New Jersey...Can't remember his name...Hopefully someone
more talented that our lad Greg Ostertag.
AWESOMO 4000 | 10:44 a.m. June 4, 2008
There is always a need for shooters in the NBA. That, in my opinion, is what gives Jonnie Bryant a good chance to play in the NBA. The main thing Korver brought the Jazz was the ability to make free throws in the final minute of close games. Bryant is a 90+% foul shooter.

I'm a Ute fan and am glad Plaisted is entering the draft. BYU should have a tough time with Nevill this year. Plaisted's decision wasn't a bad one. Whether he'll be playing in the US or Europe, he'll be making more than all of the posters on here. Furthermore, he�ll have his degree.

The biggest problem with coming out this year is it is a really strong and deep draft.
Anonymous | 10:45 a.m. June 4, 2008
Please! You think someone is delusional if they think it was good for Trent to go to the NBA? Projected by some to be the last pick in the first round or an early second round pick. He goes into the NBA where he has better coaching, training, and will get paid. He will develop a lot more over the next year with an NBA franchise than with a college program. Think about it!

Please dont be calling me delusional.
basketball | 10:50 a.m. June 4, 2008
Many of you, whether you are BYU fans or Utah fans, don't understand the realities of pro basketball today. There is MUCH more than the NBA. Some have correctly observed that he will probably play overseas and make lots of money. When Trent opted to enter the NBA draft, he opened up the door for a possible NBA career, or a more probable foreign career. If his only option were a hope to go to the NBA, I would agree that he might be unrealistic, but I'm sure he realizes that even if the NBA doesn't call his name, he'll be making good money somewhere else so he can support his family. I think most people writing these dumb comments would be delighted to have Trent's options and opportunities.
RE: Ridiculous-Plaisted | 10:59 a.m. June 4, 2008
Trent used a redshirt year and has enough credits to graduate, in reality he is not leaving early.
I think this is the right time for him to leave BYU. College players get hammered if they stay all 4 years at school, because if they were really good they would have left early. That�s why Hibbert (at 7 2) will still be around when the Jazz draft, because if he was a true NBA talent he would not be around after the first 10 picks. So if Trent stays for five years and still doesn't dominate his position for yet another year, than he may never make the NBA.
Rich $ | 11:04 a.m. June 4, 2008
Trent Plaisted? Are you kidding. I wish the Jazz didn't have to bother working out a guy who shouldn't even be in the pros because he is a local "hero". RB would be a vast improvement to Collins and Fes is not ready yet. Even if he is a little thick and "lazy" it's not like we're asking him to go 35 minutes a night.
Anonymous | 11:15 a.m. June 4, 2008
No one is saying Trent Plaisted is stupid or that he won't make more money than those posting on here. But frankly, no one wants him to play for the Jazz, who despite having done well in the last few drafts, do tend to make some mistakes (Kirk Snyder, Kris Humphries). Good for Trent to have is degree and blah blah blah, but please, he should not be playing for the Jazz and probably not be in the NBA.
What??? | 11:17 a.m. June 4, 2008
@ adrian 10:30a.m.-

Do we not already have a log jam at the 2?
Isn't Almond a solid scorer? (He did lead the D-league in scoring.)

How do you suggest we pick up OJ Mayo at the 23rd spot?
Big D | 12:43 p.m. June 4, 2008
The jazz need to bring in a center who can play some defense. It's time to package Okur and a pick for someone who will have some intimidating presence in the paint. The jazz won't go to the finals and win a title until either Boozer AND Okur decide to play defense for 48 minutes or we trade for someone who's going to play rough Sloan-ball in the middle. The jazz need to get it now, not wait for a pick to "develope". Nobody should be safe from being traded except for Williams, especially Andrei and Memo.
luckylyman77 | 12:46 p.m. June 4, 2008
The Jazz already have enough young talent that needs to grow and be developed. I say trade this year's picks. Give Fes and Almond a chance. And teach Boozer how to play defense.
Jake | 1:09 p.m. June 4, 2008
I am a BYU fan, but I didn't want Trent Plaisted to come back to Provo. I've never seen him face up and take a jump-shot, he can't hit free-throws, he shoots his hook shot from his hip, and he gets called for traveling twice each game.
He's supposed to alter and block shots in the middle, but Lee Cummard had just as many blocks/game as Trent, and Lee is 4" shorter.
That said, I hope Trent can get drafted somewhere in the second round; if not, he'll have a fun time in Europe. I'm just glad that he's not coming back to BYU.
Defensive Center | 1:15 p.m. June 4, 2008
The Jazz need to identify the best defensive center in this draft and go get him. The Jazz really only need one player and so they should package their second round picks and possibly players to go up and get the player they want.

IMO, that could be Hibbert. I think that he is too slow a foot. I think that Robin Lopez would be my choice. Athletic and strong on the defensive end. McGee, Ajinca, Thompson and Hardin are other possibilities.

I think that the Jazz need to keep Boozer, Okur and Kirilenko. I would like to see them pickup someone who can contribute 20 minutes per game right away and play along side either Boozer or Okur. Okur should play at the PF at times.

I would also like to see the Jazz relieve the logjam at the 3 spot. AK, Harpring, Miles and Korver are all 3s. I think that we try and trade Harpring, Hart and Collins. Obviously easier said than done, but for salary cap reasons some team might take them.

Also, using a second round pick on a young Euro would be wise. Let him develop there for a few years.
Don't trade Memo | 1:23 p.m. June 4, 2008
Big D, I don't think we need to trade Memo. His defense isn't great but his three point abilities stretch the other teams defense. We just need a good defensive backup at center for a change of pace and to keep Memo fresher.
No No No | 1:55 p.m. June 4, 2008
Plaisted has zero chance of making it to even fall camp. Save your time Jazz.
More Money? | 2:11 p.m. June 4, 2008
I love how everyone who defends Plaisted keeps saying that he will "make more money than anyone on this post." So I guess pro basketball in another country is the only way to make good money these days. Dang, I should go try out. He isn't a good basketball player but he will make more money than you! Ha! So there!

Please
HOFFA | 2:19 p.m. June 4, 2008
If the Jazz really want to make the NBA Finals, they need to make a full commitment to the Cougars. The day they let go Hoffa was the day they did not have enough firepower to return to the Western Conference Finals. They need to get him back and let Memo go. Memo is too slow. Then they need to cut ties with Collins and go after Plaisted with everything they have. Then in Round 2, they can beef up their backcourt defense by dropping Jason Hart and adding a certain Mountain West Co-Player of the Year from BYU named LEE CUMMARD. If they can get Travis Hansen back in the States and get Ainge to coach the team, D-Will is gonna have everything he needs to DOMINATE.
Jimmy Z | 2:47 p.m. June 4, 2008
GET A NEW COACH and then we have start. Sloan needs
to hang it up....he is just there for the money
TO HOFFA | 2:57 p.m. June 4, 2008
Are you joking? You must be.

If you are serious, name one NBA team that has 4 players on their roster that played college ball at the same school and is in the same state as that pro franchise. The reason there are none is that the coaching and scouting staff actually watch ALL college players with potential rather than just what they see on local TV, like you. Good local talent, especially here in Utah, does not equate to good NBA talent (read: Hoffa). It's great to be a home fan but get real and your comments might get some respect from the rest of us.

Additionally, to say that Hoffa is quicker than Memo on the defensive end of the floor (where the Jazz have a weakness) is laughable. I can't even comment about Travis Hansen so again I ask: Are you joking? You are aren't you. Please say yes.
Crazy | 2:58 p.m. June 4, 2008
It's interesting to read the comments that have been made. I thought this article was about drafting Hibbert, not Plaisted. As a former coach and the little bit I've seen Hibbert on T.V., he is big, but slow and gets garbage shots around the basket. The Jazz are in good condition with their current roster, and their picks from last year, Almond and Fesenko will contribute eventually, maybe as soon as next year. They just need time. As for Plaisted, being a former athlete I'd say he moves and jumps well and that is about all. He has no shooting technique, only a flip of the wrist, no follow through. BYU will not miss him, but they would Cummard should he not withdraw from the draft.
So much for the drafting of Hibbert. How would he do against Yao Ming, or Shak? Could he stop Odom of the Lakers driving to the basket? Is he a shot blocker or just a big body for Bryant or Parker to dribble around on their way to scoring?
Re: HOFFA | 3:02 p.m. June 4, 2008
That was awesome. Thanks for making me laugh.

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