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Jordan teacher investigated for alleged sexually explicit lesson
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The problem with education is not unions, voucher / non-voucher, but parents unwilling to lete teachers teach. The parents were not in the room. ...and maybe the teacher needs to be redirected, but why would the parents be asking for the teacher's dismissal?
You parents need to allow your millenium babies to grow.
I can still remember one of my sons standing up in a high school discussion of unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases and advocating abstinance and being told by the teacher that abstinance wasn't a viably alternative. My son had enough guts to reply, "I don't know why not--it works for me and my friends."
Like anybody is going to believe you. You got to be some adult trying to yank everybody's chain. Besides most kids know all this stuff before they get to junior high anyway and frequently know more than the teachers do.
I'd rather teach my kids about responsible sexuality than the perverted teacher I had in 6th grade. He was the example of reckless, irresponsible behavior.
Ask any of those kids and I bet 6 out of 10 have been to a "R" movie. Heck T.V. has become "R" rated and what about the video games? That is where the kids get these ideas to try to pin on teachers.look around you and then find someone else to blame (look in the mirror).
The liberal teachers posting their comments might want to get the facts straight. "just let her teach"
Pure Ignorance.
First of all, the teacher is innocent until proven guilty. Teachers in this state are underpaid and unappreciated and for us to make assumptions about whether inappropriate behavior occurred or did not is just adding more insult to this profession that deserves more respect.
IF the teacher did wrong, the district should remove her from the courtroom. BUT those of us without kids in that classroom should not be condeming the teacher until she is found to have done wrong.
I work in a high school and I know how fast the rumor mill is and how quickly people jump on a bandwagon. Damage to reputations happens so fast and sometimes it is irrepairable. WAIT and let the facts come out. If the teacher is innocent, I hope this newspaper puts a headline about her innocence as big as this one on the front page!
The public education system is out of the parent's hands! They are spending billions per year of our tax dollars and community handouts with little progress to show for it. I have seen reports like this and much, much worse from news outlets all over the country and in the EU about sexually predatory teachers. I find an average of 6 reports per week!!!
Time to pull the plug on this entire extortion, pedophile-prone, and corrupt institution called public education. That money the IRS steals from us each year for this scam can go to much better things that our kids want. And free up funds for other family's to independently support their own children better.
Think about this: without that money being taxed from both the family and employer; family's would have more income, and employers could afford the raises parent's work hard to earn. Mother's can stay home easier and children would be protected from these predatory teachers. Homeschooling is not hard; it's natural for a parent to teach. Kids learn from their parents far more than from school, anyway.
Self-reliance is how to ensure a future for children - not socialism!
As per the teacher, I'd like to let the school and district investigate before I pass any judgement.
Believe me, kids have more to worry about from their peers, tv, music, mtv, and movies than public school teachers. While the ability to support schools is in a way socialism, it is these skills and education that allows everyone the CHOICE to live in a capitalistic society and follow their dream.
Without education, there is no capitalism?
That's a great principal!
Schools don't exist to serve teachers - they exist to teach people the basics.
While sex education can certainly have valuable public health purposes (preventing STDs, encouraging responsible behavior, etc.), I fail to see where on earth this teacher's lessons (assuming this all pans out) had anything to do with furthering those ends.
I'm the son of a teacher, and nothing irks me more than when people have the knee-jerk reaction of "protect the schools, protect the teacher!" I don't care about the teacher or the structure - I care about the output. We need to focus less on preserving institutions and more on demanding results.
Let the district do their investigation, and let the parents do one as well. I had a health teacher who spent most of her class time making fun of heterosexuals and trying to find herself a girlfriend from among the students. Complaints were made for three years before she "retired".
Uh, what?
Now parents don't have the right to choose what their children learn about sex?
Witness the American left's grand ideal - "we will take your children from you and force them to learn the proper culture".
Sorry, but parents have rights.
Secondly why are there so many people who believe that a parent is unable to teach their own kids about sex. We dont need some educrat to teach them. I think I know how to do it. Finally. Gay sex, masturbation, sex toys and hangar abortions are NOT sex education, its indoctarination. Dont comment on my mis-spelled words, I was educated in the public schools...
Thanks for reading my soapbox message!
Why did I do it? precisely to prevent this kind of problems. so they don't get the wrong idea and they can protect themselves better.
Also, I think sex education is important when done respectfully. It saved me when I was a teenager.
Which real world do you want your kids exposed to?
How many of you parents have regular discussions with your kids on the topic? How many of you parents actually know what your kids already know about the topic? If you are relying on the school system to teach correct truths on these topics then it may already be too late for your kids. Sounds like the teacher made a mistake but I can guarantee you it is mild compared to what your kids are exposed to from their peers, sports teams, movies, tv, internet, etc. Take some responsibility and teach your kids what is right. That way when these things happen, which they invariably will, you can be comfortable that you have already had the discussion with your kid and they will know how to react.
I'm seriously beginning to think the failure of our great country is mainly because of lazy parents like those on this board. Poor teachers and education is a very distant second.
I too homeschooled all of my kids and they do wonderfully in that big ole ugly "real world" everyone is just so happy to thrust them into. I don't know why everyone thinks you have to just throw them out there like a sheep to the wolves.
Our children are great, well adjusted and contributors to society. Thanks for a well written and wonderful letter
By the way, did you know the LDS church has Institute for Special Needs adults. For those who do not know, Institute is college level Seminary. They have a very wide and varied curriculum. Book of Mormon; Old and New Testament; Doctrine and Covenants and Church History; Scripture Fundamentals, Choir (which performs periodically and is very fun); Marriage prep class, some kind of finance type class I cannot think of the name of; anyway, just all kinds of classes.
They have them all over the valley at every college; SLCC (all 3 campuses, uptown, Taylorsville and Sandy), UofU, Southcity campus, even out at South Valley Special Needs school (18-22), they have a good variety of classes. There are more too, just check it out... God Bless
I am an elementary teacher and have been shocked over the years to hear what these kids talk about. If indeed this teacher did overstep the boundaries of what should be taught, by all means discipline her, but just make sure it was as bad as reported. I find it sad that in a country where you are innocent before proven guilty, that everytime a teacher is accused, they are guilty, no questions asked. I have seen way to many teachers accused of things by spiteful kids to not want the full story first.
If you don't like what you are getting paid, do something different. Most of the people I know that went into education did so because it was an "easy" major in college. They didn't want to have to work as hard as others. You "chose" your profession. Quit whining about it!
Teachers are public "servants" to "assist" in the education of our children. This should be done within the accepted beliefs and morals of the "majority" of the population. Their job is not to dictate what they think our children should learn and when they think our children should learn it.
My apologies to those noble teachers who know their roles and perform them so dutifully.
Have you ever had a 6 year old tell you to go to hell because you asked him to stand in line? Sounds like good parenting is all this kid needs to straighten out. Guess I won't teach him that that's not okay ... it's not my job.
Have you ever spent a day with a child whose mom refuses to regularly administer or not administer his medications for extreme ADHD? I'm not for or against meds -- that's personal choice. But I do believe they need to be consistent one way or the other. But you know, when that child has a melt down ... it's not MY job to help him find other, more productive ways, to let go of all that energy.
Come spend a day in my classroom. I bet you'll be singing a different tune when you're finished.
Believe me, I was underpaid as a teacher, but I can't say under-appreciated. The parents of my students were wonderful. However, despite any amount of praise, I had to move on. I now work at a local university with much better pay, benefits, and definitely much less stress in my work environment. I don't even have to take work home with me!
Teachers are constantly working--evenings, weekends--there are always papers to be graded, lessons to plan, and individual students to reach.
If you don't like your pay, leave? Unfortunately, those who don't like what they're getting paid and who can move on (I have a graduate degree) do--and these are quite often the most qualified teachers we've got.
Although I did all in my power to see that my students were well served, I was by no means a "servant". I was an employee with children of my own to support. Think about that.
What a load of hogwash. A first year teacher in the JSD gets $30K/year, after 4 years at college. That means they take home under $2K/month. I work year round on an extended contract and earn $48K/year after 11 years of teaching.
I will agree that there are many teachers that shouldn't be teachers, but your pathetic apology at the end of your ridiculous tirade is nothing short of hate speech towards teachers. There are idiots in every profession, even yours.
To suggest that teachers became teachers because they didn't want to work as hard as others is ridiculous, and seems to indicate a huge amount about your capacity to reason, think and express yourself. Pretty sad!
I for one became a teacher because I wanted to make a difference, and just for your information, I work my butt off. I have spent close to 10 years studying and updating my qualifications, so that I can teach ungrateful little brats like you.
So why don't you stop whining about your bad experiences with teachers. Where would the world be without lazy, overpaid part-time workers? You are an embarrasment to all intelligent humans.
"Extapolate" - check the dictionary! EXTRAPOLATE.
Give us something to appreciate. The end product you are turning out is mediocre at best. When I get the oil changed in my car, I don't appreciate the guy that changes the oil and gets grease all over the matts. I appreciate the guy that changes the oil AND vacuums the car and washes the windows. He's also likely to get a tip from me. He gave me a reason to appreciate him and pay him.
Be accountable. Go the extra mile. Don't force your morals and curriculum on me. Then you will be appreciated.
Pay for performance...thats how the "real world" works. Your unions do nothing but protect the "sludge" of your profession. The good teachers should be apalled and revolt against those who don't measure up. Hold them accountable. They are the one's who are holding you down. Get out of the worthless unions.
Yes I would walk a mile in yours shoes, and I have.
Teachers aren't supposed to teach what the majority thinks. We also aren't supposed to teach what the minority thinks. Not unless we teach in a private school anyway.
Our job is to teach the facts -- the give students all the information about as many different ideas and facets of society as we can ... and then hope they make wise choices that help them become better people in the long run.
A parent's job is to teach their child about sex ... but I fail to believe that children ask their teachers about things their parents have already taught them, assuming the parents did a good job in the first place. These parents clearly did not satisfy their children's curiosity, so thank heavens they trusted their teacher enough to ask. They could have found out on say ... the internet.
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It is as simple as this, who better to teach our youngsters than someone who dedicated her life to educating our children?
Please for tha sake of a reputation of a under paid, over worked none appreacieated person, use good judgement in exercising your power.