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Bush compares today's wars to World War II efforts
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Don't blame me | 11:21 a.m. May 28, 2008
You can thank our neoconservative brothers and sisters for voting for and
supporting the worst administration this fine country has ever seen.
Watch for more "If you don't support Bush&Cheney - you must hate the troops, America, freedom ... (you know the rest)"
Watch for more "If you don't support Bush&Cheney - you must hate the troops, America, freedom ... (you know the rest)"
Anonymous | 11:32 a.m. May 28, 2008
is it 2009 yet?
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Earl | 11:34 a.m. May 28, 2008
The Bush administration is counting on Americans' general ignorance of
history to make comparisons that are nothing better than laughable. Ms.
Perrino's comment that Scott McClellan's revelations are
"sad" is pathetic. McClellan is the first former spokesman to grow a
conscience. I'm still waiting for Tony Snow to admit he had to tell
bald-faced lies every day to cover for the administration.
Anonymous | 11:49 a.m. May 28, 2008
The most dishonest, self-serving and sanctimonious administration in U.S.
history.
It's no wonder why this culture loves Bush/Cheney.
It's no wonder why this culture loves Bush/Cheney.
Johny Fairplay | 11:53 a.m. May 28, 2008
Bush how bout' re-building our Democracy which your administration has
systematically undermined over the term of your presidency. I'd be careful
throwing out WW II analogies though, can't think of anyone who deserves
Nuremberg type trials more than you, Rummy and Cheney.
Same Thing | 11:54 a.m. May 28, 2008
The Iraq war is JUST LIKE WWII- except for that whole we are the aggressors now
thing. The whole we are taking over and occupying other countries thing. I
mean, if you ignore those facts, it's the same thing. I can see where
George is coming from.
Nowhere to go but up. Our next President is going to look like he/she belongs on Mount Rushmore after this clown.
Nowhere to go but up. Our next President is going to look like he/she belongs on Mount Rushmore after this clown.
Lee | 12:06 p.m. May 28, 2008
These same de-basing and bane statements were said about another President in
1861.History has shown that the critics were wrong.
Where is America? | 12:12 p.m. May 28, 2008
Preemptive war
Illegal and immoral war
Shock-and-aweing of civilians
Torture of POW's
Bankruptcy of our country
Zillions earned by Halliburton and Lockheed Martin
(Dick and Lynn Cheney's corporations)
I WANT THE OLD AMERICA BACK!
Illegal and immoral war
Shock-and-aweing of civilians
Torture of POW's
Bankruptcy of our country
Zillions earned by Halliburton and Lockheed Martin
(Dick and Lynn Cheney's corporations)
I WANT THE OLD AMERICA BACK!
Cleetorn | 12:15 p.m. May 28, 2008
What kind of ridiculous statements are these by Sokol? We ARE under attack and
have been for years. Or was the destruction of the WTC, USS Cole and the
embassies and consulates that have been blown up world-wide all in our
collective imaginations? The enemy IS organized and resolute in its aim. Those
"flunky terrorists" have murdered thousands on American soil and
around the world with just enough equipment, training and backing to destroy
countless families. How can America keep being duped by the flawed thinking of
the mindless minority idiots who maintain that if it's not here, it's
not our problem? Granted, it is a desperate situation as any action like this
is. But sometimes it is necessary to act decisively to ensure American freedom
even if in foreign lands. If we squander out children's resources, it will
be to the infighting of self-righteous people who know nothing of what they
speak. Go ahead. Dissent all you want. But support the courageous, valiant
sacrifices that the American soldier gives to make sure you continue to have the
freedom to dissent. To do otherwise does a great diservice to all Americans,
here and abroad.
the light | 12:51 p.m. May 28, 2008
Hey, if we are going to talk about WW II I think we should get Obama in on this
and he can tell us about his uncle.
OmahaMan | 12:59 p.m. May 28, 2008
A similar story just hit Yahoo.com; "Bush says country must not lose its
nerve in Iraq." I say Bush has enough "nerve" for all of us. Yes,
there are terrorist cells in Iraq. There are also terrorist cells in Great
Britain, Germany, Pakistan... When will we be invading these countries?
"We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers..." ONLY WHEN THEY ARE RIGHTEOUS! When will Utahns stop contributing millions to a warmongering Republican Party that kills more people than Pro-choice Democratic Party "baby killers."
Finally, anti-Bush is not anti-military. There is no one more brave than someone who volunteers for military service, and let's themselves be subject to the whims of an ignorant man.
"We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers..." ONLY WHEN THEY ARE RIGHTEOUS! When will Utahns stop contributing millions to a warmongering Republican Party that kills more people than Pro-choice Democratic Party "baby killers."
Finally, anti-Bush is not anti-military. There is no one more brave than someone who volunteers for military service, and let's themselves be subject to the whims of an ignorant man.
here they come! | 1:09 p.m. May 28, 2008
Cleetorn is among the many neocons we will be hearing from now until November
telling us "if we don't support the Bush Administration's foreign
policy - we must hate the troops and love The Dixie Chicks ... blah, blah, blah
... (you know the rest of the Limbaugh-esque BS)"
It worked last time, didn't it?
It worked last time, didn't it?
Vulpes | 1:18 p.m. May 28, 2008
Attacking Afghanistan and Iraq (despite the thorough absence of this particular
terrorist organization, was nonetheless subjected to alarmingly transparent
propaganda that even Leni Riefenstahl would have laughed at) had little to do
with Al-Qaeda, and much more to do with shifting the balance of power over land
resources.
The biggest difficulty of this group is that they are not limited to one geographical area (unless you count the allied Saudi-Arabia); those attacks have happened on home territory and elsewhere abroad.
Considering those liberated now view US presence as unwanted permanent occupation, the wisest expenditure of US capital (how many trillions can the country afford anyway? Including the millions in Halliburton et al fraud..) would be right here; and even then, there will be no 100% success rate of prevention.
The biggest difficulty of this group is that they are not limited to one geographical area (unless you count the allied Saudi-Arabia); those attacks have happened on home territory and elsewhere abroad.
Considering those liberated now view US presence as unwanted permanent occupation, the wisest expenditure of US capital (how many trillions can the country afford anyway? Including the millions in Halliburton et al fraud..) would be right here; and even then, there will be no 100% success rate of prevention.
v | 1:21 p.m. May 28, 2008
Cleetorn,
Terrorists do not represent a country. They are outlaws. A nation can only figuratively declare war on outlaws. Rather they should be seen as outlaws which required police efforts to bring them to justice.
The Bush administration has called it a War on Terror, but that is only a campaign slogan. It is not a War between countries. Please be a independent thinker. You might support his actions, but don't swallow rhetoric in large gullible gulps.
Terrorists do not represent a country. They are outlaws. A nation can only figuratively declare war on outlaws. Rather they should be seen as outlaws which required police efforts to bring them to justice.
The Bush administration has called it a War on Terror, but that is only a campaign slogan. It is not a War between countries. Please be a independent thinker. You might support his actions, but don't swallow rhetoric in large gullible gulps.
magnus | 1:45 p.m. May 28, 2008
@ Anonymous
Exactly what "culture" are you talking about? certainly not America, approval ratings in the teens are kind of the opposite of love.
@ Lee
You're right similar statements were made about Lincoln. But I ask you to consider, what was Lincoln fighting for? Who was he fighting? Where was he fighting? Then ask the same things about President Bush and the Iraq War and ask yourself how you think history will judge him.
@ Cleetorn
Our troops are working miracles in a bad situation, in my mind we owe it to them to hold accountable the leaders who put them in that situation.
Moreover, you have tied the Iraq war to the war on terror just as the Bush administration did when it sold this war to the American people. Here's the cold hard facts about Iraq and the terror war.
1) Sadam Hussein and Iraq were almost no threat to the security of America in 2003.
2) There were no terrorist organizations operating in Iraq between 2000 and 2003.
3) The Iraq war has hurt the war on terror more than it has helped it by destroying our world reputation, overtaxing our military, and bankrupting us.
Exactly what "culture" are you talking about? certainly not America, approval ratings in the teens are kind of the opposite of love.
@ Lee
You're right similar statements were made about Lincoln. But I ask you to consider, what was Lincoln fighting for? Who was he fighting? Where was he fighting? Then ask the same things about President Bush and the Iraq War and ask yourself how you think history will judge him.
@ Cleetorn
Our troops are working miracles in a bad situation, in my mind we owe it to them to hold accountable the leaders who put them in that situation.
Moreover, you have tied the Iraq war to the war on terror just as the Bush administration did when it sold this war to the American people. Here's the cold hard facts about Iraq and the terror war.
1) Sadam Hussein and Iraq were almost no threat to the security of America in 2003.
2) There were no terrorist organizations operating in Iraq between 2000 and 2003.
3) The Iraq war has hurt the war on terror more than it has helped it by destroying our world reputation, overtaxing our military, and bankrupting us.
Dick | 2:09 p.m. May 28, 2008
What? People actually voted for this idiot. I didn`t. This guy has put the
country in worse shape than it has been in for years. No reason to go to war
with Iraq.
wrz | 2:17 p.m. May 28, 2008
"What kind of ridiculous statements are these by Bush.
We are not under attack. There is no organized enemy
of the magnitude of the Third Reich. The flunky
terrorists of Al Quaida do not have the resources,
equipment, training or backing of Nazi Germany."
Too funny!
We are under attack. 9/11 being the latest. I could list the other attacks if you wish.
There is an organized enemy. And it's huge... called Muslim Fundamental Terrorism. World wide and much larger than the Third Reich ever thought of being.
Al Qaeda has more resources than you can shake a stick at. It's call oil revenues.
We are not under attack. There is no organized enemy
of the magnitude of the Third Reich. The flunky
terrorists of Al Quaida do not have the resources,
equipment, training or backing of Nazi Germany."
Too funny!
We are under attack. 9/11 being the latest. I could list the other attacks if you wish.
There is an organized enemy. And it's huge... called Muslim Fundamental Terrorism. World wide and much larger than the Third Reich ever thought of being.
Al Qaeda has more resources than you can shake a stick at. It's call oil revenues.
Sokol | 2:23 p.m. May 28, 2008
When you have no argument, then you bring out the
support the troops. How about realizing that it
is more than supportive to bring these men and women
out of the middle of a civil war, let them have a
safe and healthy life with their families, help
them get a college education, rebuild our infrastructure, build schools in the USA rather
than Iraq, repair our ailing economy, revitalize
the dollar, spend money and resources on our American
children first? I think we would be honoring
our troops more by focusing on their needs in their
own respective communities and states.
support the troops. How about realizing that it
is more than supportive to bring these men and women
out of the middle of a civil war, let them have a
safe and healthy life with their families, help
them get a college education, rebuild our infrastructure, build schools in the USA rather
than Iraq, repair our ailing economy, revitalize
the dollar, spend money and resources on our American
children first? I think we would be honoring
our troops more by focusing on their needs in their
own respective communities and states.
wrz | 2:26 p.m. May 28, 2008
"Yes, there are terrorist cells in Iraq. There are also terrorist cells in
Great Britain, Germany, Pakistan... When will we be invading these
countries?"
When? As soon as Muslim terrorists subdue and take over those countries, which isn't too far distant.
When? As soon as Muslim terrorists subdue and take over those countries, which isn't too far distant.
wrz | 2:46 p.m. May 28, 2008
"Preemptive war
Illegal and immoral war
Shock-and-awing of civilians"
Are you talking about Clinton's invasion of Kosovo and attack on Serbia?
"Torture of POW's"
Which probably saved your hide from a terrorist bomb. You should be showing some thankfulness.
"Bankruptcy of our country"
Borrow expensive money... pay it back with cheaper dollars. What's wrong with that?
"Zillions earned by Halliburton and Lockheed Martin
(Dick and Lynn Cheney's corporations)"
And my corporation, plus tens of thousands of other shareholders. Thanks, Haliburton and Lockheed Martin for the nice return on the investment.
"I WANT THE OLD AMERICA BACK!"
You may not like it. You'd better take what you have.
Illegal and immoral war
Shock-and-awing of civilians"
Are you talking about Clinton's invasion of Kosovo and attack on Serbia?
"Torture of POW's"
Which probably saved your hide from a terrorist bomb. You should be showing some thankfulness.
"Bankruptcy of our country"
Borrow expensive money... pay it back with cheaper dollars. What's wrong with that?
"Zillions earned by Halliburton and Lockheed Martin
(Dick and Lynn Cheney's corporations)"
And my corporation, plus tens of thousands of other shareholders. Thanks, Haliburton and Lockheed Martin for the nice return on the investment.
"I WANT THE OLD AMERICA BACK!"
You may not like it. You'd better take what you have.
Sokol | 4:15 p.m. May 28, 2008
wrz: You offer no justifications for the actions.
Where is your proof of weapons of mass destruction?
Just because you made money, then you justify immoral, unethical and illegal activity by American
corporations.
This does not even related to the story that some pidly boogiemen known as Al Quaeda is in any shape
or form like the well organized Nazi war machine.
Where is your proof of weapons of mass destruction?
Just because you made money, then you justify immoral, unethical and illegal activity by American
corporations.
This does not even related to the story that some pidly boogiemen known as Al Quaeda is in any shape
or form like the well organized Nazi war machine.
magnus | 5:01 p.m. May 28, 2008
Something that I have noticed is that nobody can defend the invasion of Iraq on
it's own merits.
It was to...
-Protect American Oil interests: that's clearly worked awesome!!!
-Stop the spread of WMD's: turns out there where none, and the guy (ya, one guy) who convinced the White House that there was, well it turns out he is a corrupt buisnessman with a criminal record. but even if there were WMD's, Iran was further along in their Uranium enrichment program than Iraq was in 2003, AND WE KNEW IT!!! So why didn't we invade Iran???
-To fight the War on Terror: There were no terrorist organisations in Iraq, nor is there any evidence then or now that Saddam was financing terrorist organisations.
-To Spread Democracy: This argument is so hypcritical and arrogant that it is almost laughable, if it weren't so sad.
To all of my fellow conservatives... it's ok to take off the blinders and see the Iraq war for what it is, the worst foreign policy mistake in the history of our nation. It doesn't make you less of a patriot or conservative or even less of a republican, it just makes you a smarter voter.
It was to...
-Protect American Oil interests: that's clearly worked awesome!!!
-Stop the spread of WMD's: turns out there where none, and the guy (ya, one guy) who convinced the White House that there was, well it turns out he is a corrupt buisnessman with a criminal record. but even if there were WMD's, Iran was further along in their Uranium enrichment program than Iraq was in 2003, AND WE KNEW IT!!! So why didn't we invade Iran???
-To fight the War on Terror: There were no terrorist organisations in Iraq, nor is there any evidence then or now that Saddam was financing terrorist organisations.
-To Spread Democracy: This argument is so hypcritical and arrogant that it is almost laughable, if it weren't so sad.
To all of my fellow conservatives... it's ok to take off the blinders and see the Iraq war for what it is, the worst foreign policy mistake in the history of our nation. It doesn't make you less of a patriot or conservative or even less of a republican, it just makes you a smarter voter.
Brother Chuck Schroeder | 9:35 p.m. May 28, 2008
Linking the wars, what about this?. A politician Liberal will convince themself
to believe what suits their needs at the moment. We can and should expand our
refining capacity which would give a more immediate relief. Am I ticked? You bet
I am but I'm also a realist. We are not going to extricate ourselves from
this mess for some time and we can cuss and fuss all we want but we are reaping
what our leaders in Washington and Big Business have given us. We have people
running for national office who profess change and boy, if ever a country needed
to do things differently, to get our heads out of the sand, it is America. Our
dilemma now is that we did not react to the gas shortage of the 70's and
take the steps necessary to consider alternative fuels or building additional
refineries, etc. We struggled through it, the shortage went away, and back we
went to gas guzzling automobiles and we are now paying the consequences. Ethanol
has it problems. What they did do is not ease the consequences of using our
grain as an energy source and creating tremendous problems in our food supply.
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We are not under attack. There is no organized enemy
of the magnitude of the Third Reich. The flunky
terrorists of Al Quaida do not have the resources,
equipment, training or backing of Nazi Germany.
How can American, a country much more educated,
be duped by such flawed thinking?
I never thought we would have another Vietnam-like
war. Yet, we have become mired down in a more desparate situation. What are we getting out of this?
The people of Iraq should come up with their own
solutions.
We have squandered our children's resources and allowed political demogogues to silence our own
dissension to this disastrous war.