Comments about ‘Polygamous sect distances itself from FLDS’
Bluffdale group issues statement on marriages
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It's a little funny how Polygamous communitys thrive
in this a free soceity. The lifestyle one chooses
should be left out of politics.
The lifestyle of certian sects around the country may want to consider alignment with the gay rights
movement. This would insure there survivial.
I feel that if women or men choose to have multiple
spouses then why would the Goverment regulate there
actions.
I also feel that the goverment has overstepped it's
boundry in criminalizing drugs. The thought that
over one million citizens are in jail or prison for
use of drugs is sickening.
When will the people wake up and take control of our
soceity and allow people to choose for themselves
what they ingest, when they die or whom they live with.
The Recent FLDS case is a perfect example of abusesive goverment agency gone wild (CPS).
Although this has religious overtones it really is
about fundemental rights of people to choose how they live.
I don beleive that people have the right to choose.
No forced marriages or sexual favors for prophets.
Women of age should be able to choose whom and when
they are married or have sexual relations.
"Although we have not had any affiliation with the FLDS for nearly 60 years due to some of these very issues, we are nevertheless deeply concerned that Texas state agencies have violated God given and constitutional rights of the FLDS community at the YFZ Ranch contrary to principles and freedoms that iconic America stands for," the statement said. "The investigation of alleged criminal activity should not lead to the unnecessary suffering of innocent babies, toddlers, and older children there are better and more responsible ways to solve this problem."
I thought this was very good.
They made it clear their beliefs differed but also had enough guts to strongly speak up for the rights of others (even those they disagree with)at the same time.
Which is the essential responsibility of free citizens.
I really respect this - especially as their own position is a socially vulnerable one - which takes even more courage.
Way to go polys!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to show some class!!
I'm not in favor of polygamy or any other marital relationship other than that between one husband and one wife. However, California, by allowing (temporarily?) same-sex marriages, has "opened the floodgates" to alternative relationships. How can polygamy be (logically) condemned if same-sex marriages are allowed? What's next? Marriages between one wife and several husbands? Marriages between several men or several women? People with traditional values better "buckle up!"
that's all...oh contact the law!
Having lived in Bluffdale and knowing some of the folks in the AUB (Apostolic United Brethren) I find them much different than the FLDS. Generally they live in our communities and are not confined to compounds. Their family life is common knowledge among the neighbors. I doubt that there is more child sexual abuse among them than their neighbors, maybe even less.
I disagree with this life style, but then I disagree with the homosexual life style as well, but what can you do? I know men outside of polygamy than have had sex and children with more women than most polygamist men, and often fail to care for these children. This life style is even worse, but what can we do?
I've worked with several nurses who belong to the AUB. They were all interesting, independent, and hard-working individuals who were also committed to their religion. (They may have even cared for you, and you would never know, by their appearance, that they were polygamists.)
While I admire each of them individually, my hope is that all the recent publicity might open their eyes to the dangers of living in this type of society and obediently following every little thing they are told to do.
I hope these events may awaken in them some very sincere soul-searching regarding what they truly believe, and whether that belief is helpful or not.
If polygamy is against the laws of U.S. AND Utah. How can they purchase land there to continue the practise.
The AUB are not the only ones to have opposed the FLDS and the underage crimes. The writer here reports it as if AUB is the only one though. Around the country most of the polygamy rights movement is NOT Mormon and they have been issuing repeated releases and media quotes opposing the FLDS from the beginning. Simply do a search for these items:
"FLDS was Always Opposed by National Polygamy Movement"
"Warren Jeffs was Always Opposed by National Polygamy Movement"
"FLDS is far more 'Mormon sect' than 'Polygamist sect'"
"National Polygamy Rights Movement for Consenting Adults Disavows FLDS, Says National Polygamy Rights Leader"
I'm one who thinks that the laws against polygamy should either be enforced or changed. And I blame Mark Shurtleff for failing to address the problem. He should announce that he will prosecute anybody who enters into a polygamous marriage after, say, June 1, 2008. And then begin prosecuting. Violators would be fined 10% of their gross anuual income. The money could be placed into the public school system.
Polygamy is an unenforceable law because only with the first wife is there actually a legally registered marriage. The "husband" is, in the eyes of the law, just sleeping with the other women. Therefore, in today's licentious society, one can be prosecuted only if such sex is with underage girls or with women against their will. Precisely, those men in jail for "polygamy" have been convicted of statutory rape or conspiracy to do so. Besides, without unbearable hypcrisy, how can we jail a man for religiously sanctioned "polygamy" when we honor "artists", politicians, sportsmen and literati who may be married and yet support and have relations with many others at the same time? Nah, polygamy among consenting adults fits rather snugly in the disgusting society we have created. Antipolygamy laws could even be unconstitutional, given today's society. Maybe that is why prosecutors go after practitioners only when the polygamous unions are with underage girls. What a country!!!
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