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'Idol' owes apologies
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No it's not. The story they told after the fact was that it's standard procedure; before that - no one, including the contestants had any idea. Every contestant that wasn't named David Cook was hung out to dry in one way or the other. And it is reprehensible.
Meanwhile, Jeff deserves a HUGE apology from a lot of people. Poor man.
the theme weeks were awful, and in the finale they urged simon to overpraise archie in order to ensure cook's fans would vote up a storm.
i do like both of the finalists & have nothing against them (my favorite is Archuleta). but the producers (and maybe simon - i'm still trying to decide if he's a total shadester or not) make me want to vomit.
We are soooooo picked on.
Give it a rest and don't be a sore loser.
David A seems to get that.
Why can't the people of Utah?
Fox giveth and Fox taketh away.
Idol is not about talent.
It is a scripted soap opera with "real people" not unlike MTV's Real World.
You love it when your "Idol" gets good press, pout when it is bad.
NEWS FLASH- it is phoney either way!
You are like pro wrestling fans; squealing with delight when your guy bodyslams the villian, horrified when your guy gets smashed over the head with a folding chair.(That isn't real either, or didn't you know.)
You people act like David is some jilted Musical Messiah. Please stay away from koolaid for at least a month, for your on sake!
Idol has been over a week, when are we going to move on?
Seriously.
Ive accepted the result, but the damage has been done.
Moving on doesn't mean you cannot analyze what has transpired. You can move on, without turning a blind eye on things.
But some people just think moving on is all about going to "lalala" land. Naive.
Although I am very happy that Idol brought me David Archuleta, I am finished with the show. The only way they could win my viewership would be to have David Archuleta come on as the fourth judge and sing all of his comments. LOL.
The producers, the judges and, of course, the source have really sold their souls. If anyone witnessed abusive behavior to a minor, you report to Child Welfare authorities. However, first call went to TMZ. Sure ridicule and embarrassment from millions of public, media, and of course Naomi Judd, is so much more healthy for a child isn't it? I give no credit to this story until an eye-witness can stand up and do the right thing.
Regarding the producers banning Jeff; if he was interfering, then fairness should have started from day one. It was only a problem until it cost the producers money? What about fairness to the other contestants along the way. We don't quite have the whole story.
And then the judges. I'll skip over the whole Paula thing... Simon campaigning on all the talk shows supporting David Cook and then to shove Archie down the viewer's throats during the finale. We have seen how Simon's harsh comments have kept contestants on the show in the past haven't we? Sorry people, Simon the 'honest' judge? Get real!
Simon has always said this is a
"Singing Competition".
By any objective standards, including the judges, most experts, general consensus, and even Cook himself, Archuleta has the best pipes.
Simon's backtracking started before the final show, when he found out that Cook received more votes. Therefore, it was time to patch up with the guy he's going to own for the next three years.
This is not Truman over Dewey. This is not the equivalent of winning the Super Bowl or March Madness. Anyone using these analogies sounds silly and stupid.
This is not democracy, unless Chicago style politics is your game. Vote and vote often.
There is no "one man one vote" in this dynamic.
No, there were two competitions in one here.
The "Singing Competition" was won by David Archuleta.
And the "Popularity Vote, (based upon speed dialing, multiple dialing of 11 digits and phone banks with computers dailing numbers)", was won by Cook.
America has not spoken here, at all.
Time will tell.
I'm pulling for both of them.
The humility and brotherly love these guys have for each other is the real achievement here. Two first class guys, who deserve success.
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Speculation: Simon was all for Cook all season, last show he was very negative, man, I better vote for Cook, cause those comments really were harsh. Oh, how sweet, Simon said he was sorry.
Fact: I think it was tacky to let the loser know that he lost by 12 million votes, sure if it had been like Clay and Ruben, then that is a big deal, but it was kind of tasteless to me.
Speculation: I am really burned out with AI, it was great to watch Brooke and David, I do like the contestants, but I think the judges and Ryan are all getting annoying, you watch Survivor, it is about the contestants, not all about the host and the judges.
Fact: They need to name it the Ryan/Simon hour, cause it is about them.
What we all don't know is the vote totals, but in an interview with Extra days before the final showdown, Paula indicated that Archuleta had been losing his young audience to Cook. Furthermore, Lythgoe told a Fox affiliate after the finals that the reason they don't give out vote totals each week is because it would lessen the drama, such as believing Archuleta would win, when in fact Cook had been ahead in the votes for some weeks. Sorry, if you think AI owes you an apology for your own naivete. If I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath.
There are lots of things in life where the winners aren't that important, but how you play the game is. If the local little league got together at the beginning of the year to decide who they wanted to win and then played every dirty trick just this side of legal to get that outcome, including starting gossip campaigns against the people they didn't want to win, we'd be upset.
And why would we be upset? Because it really does matter how you play the game, because little league is supposed to be about letting kids have fun while teaching them fair play and sportsmanship. The last thing we want is for the people in charge to sabotage the whole point of it.
It's the same with American Idol. We want to see someone win by playing fair. We don't want to see the rating board's prescripted show.
Jeff deserves aHUGE apology from a lot of people.
For the record, I agree that the producer selections were more than absurd. Dan Fogelberg's "Longer"???? Get me my shoulder pads!
This show is a complete joke. I saw it once or twice long ago, and realized how pathetic it really is. I see articles like this all the time, and it makes me happy I don't waste my time with such unbelievable human behavior.
May I also add that none of the judges are the sharpest tools in the shed.
I don't watch Idol, and never will. I saw 5 minutes of it once a couple years ago, and that was 5 minutes too many. I won't bother to point out all the things that are wrong about that show; the people who don't watch it already know, and the fans won't care.
Suffice it to say that I looked at this article expecting just another bit of celebutard reporting, but (surprise) found that it had something insightful to say about the nauseating mess of "reality" TV via American Idol.
It's not just American Idol that owes an apology--the entire TV industry should apologize for all the garbage they've foisted on us. But I guess it's our own fault, really...as long as we eat it up, they'll keep shoveling it in.
Pearce is right about AI integrity. They just let the rumor float out until it stuck.
It was a bit mind numbing to see all the shows run with the rumor (including the Today Show). I watched everything from The Soup to The View run with this false information.
The story started at TMZ, the other sources 'quote' TMZ and so it goes........
This season is the most manipulated and strategic EVER.
Let'e be happy for Archie. He has signed a bigger contract thatn the winner!!! Is that possible?? Yes! And it seems he has all the big names working with him on his ablum!
As for Jeff A being a stage dad, it wasn't the AI people saying he was one. It was Naomi Judd. I don't recall what show I was watching when I heard her say it. She said when David A was performing on Star Search, she was one of the judges and Jeff A was a stage dad.
I'm glad to hear David doesn't feel his dad is that way.
I agree that if he wasn't being a stage dad, AI should have cleared that up as well as Paula's big mistake right away.
I wonder if the whole thing isn't a setup and the "votes" are really manipulated by the producers. Maybe Scott can look into that for us.
THANKS SCOTT........GREAT JOB !!
I will always always support David Archuleta for the rest of my life. Through the roughs and thoughs I will stand by him. Go Archie!!!Luv from one of your Archy Angels!!!!
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