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What a mess. Texas will end up with the short end of the stick on this one. They might win a few battles here in the local courts but once this gets to the appeals courts and upward they are in trouble.
Sorry for yall living in TX. The incompetence of a few is going to cost the state millions.
Well Shazam! Shazam! What next pray tell? TEXAS CPS,
may I suggest that you cut to the chase, and GULP!
admit that YOU WERE WRONG! Return the children now,
and you might save some semblance of dignity.
However I expect you and your TEXAS TERRORIST'S, the
Sheriff's office and Courts, to be all that you can be, and that is a bunch of Fascists!
The case is coming apart; no evidence! no proof!
no nothing! I hope those who were so sure of abuse learn something about "jumping to conclusions."
As I said before; Texas; hold a news conference; show us the "offenders" show us "Sarah"...what's that, you can't? Too many "Adults?" Spritual Marriages...just that? Liars locking up "prophets;" I can't wait for the next installment of this travesty; will "judge" walters keep her chicken ranch? Will Texas try to land grab the YFZ Ranch?
This is better than "Dallas" used to be!
Sad when mother's are "pushed into signing" papers in order to get their children back. The suffering of these innocent children is one of the biggest atrocities to have happened on American soil!!! I pray it will be soon over for them and that they can return to their loving mothers. How long will the American people sit by and watch this continue? Until everyones rights are gobbled up in the frenzy of the political power userpers? SHAME ON TEXAS!! SHAME ON GEORGE BUSH WHO CANNOT EVEN STOOP TO HEAR THE CRIES OF THE INNOCENT CHILDREN!! When the storm troopers first went in, there might have been a question, then they went to far and now they are making these children and their parents suffer for no reason but to cover their political back sides.
They are trying to dig themselves out of a hole, and this may be the case that puts "protective services" out of the violating-rights business.
I'll bet they're crying in their beer, wishing that they had never started this.
no place as big as Texas....no mess as big as Texas....no fools as big as a Texas fool....yep you got 'em.
While disapproving of polygamous marriages, the conduct of the State of Texas in this matter is beyond acceptability. The State of Texas is using the "rule of law" and the court system in a manner similar to a dictatorship or some mediaval authoritarian ruler with serious mental problems. Our Founding Fathers would not approve of the actions of the State of Taxas. Bring on Jury Nullification at the very least and let those people be. To each his own and Robert Frost wrote in wise manner, "good fences good neighbors make". Child Protective Services in Taxas are truly bored and mindless people caught up in a bureaucratic craze. .
Ester Barlow is on the "fast track" to having her children returned because she is willing to move away from the ranch. CPS/Texas wants all of those families to denounce their religion and disassociate themselves from it--at least that is what it is starting to look like.
While I don't agree w/ their beliefs, they are entitled to have them. They are entitled to their constitutional rights, even in Texas.
The Branch Davidians, FLDS, who is next?? We should all watch our backs.
You can tell how old they are by cutting off their finger and counting the rings. Duh!
Their FLDS beliefs are abusive to children. The FLDS people need to be STOPPED! NO MORE CHILD MARRIAGES! NO MORE MIND CONTROL! NO MORE BRAINWASHING! LIVE AND LET LIVE! LET THE CHILDREN LIVE THEIR OWN LIVES AND CHOOSE THEIR OWN SPOUSES!
Justice is Justice, if Judge walters steps down and another judge takes this, I would feel that it is far, The Facts wont change. Is she scared that another judge would give a different ruling? (Does she have a personal agenda?) Facts are Facts it shouldnt matter to her. As an American an scared as hell of where this is going.
CPS in Texas reminds me of someone else from Texas who was a little over eager to take over Iraq.
What is is about Texans? They think they can clean up the world and in the end they end up with a big mess. This will cost the state millions and millions.
Don't the FLDS have birth certificates? That sure would have cleared up much of the confusion. I still maintain that the FLDS had the responsibility to disclose (through documentation) the age of the people involved. Things would have gone so much smoother if they had loosened their code of silence. Texas is simply trying to figure out what to do without the facts (which would have been so easy for the FLDS to disclose). The fact that they (FLDS) have been so secretative speaks volumes.
Does everyone hear foot steps coming? Step by step, the plethora of accusations, number of "little girls" not being little girls, etc. is disintegrating and CPS (and their "advisors") will be shown for the liars that they are. One by one, their lies are being exposed, and their true colors and motives are being exposed.
For those that didn't believe, it will all be clear very shortly.
1) Why is moving to another house equal to denouncing religion. I've moved 5 times and never renounced my religion. The state wants to know that these children won't be living with child abusers.
2) I think it is great that things are getting sorted out. In some cases the FLDS were correct - but in others the state was correct. The article mentioned one girl that was impregnated at 15. They didn't mention who her "husband" is. He is probably in hiding. That is the problem with letting yourself become the "honey" to another womans husband. You have no rights. Shame on those men for putting so many young girls in this position. At least the state of Texas is trying to put an end to this practice - they have taken on a big job, and they havn't done it perfectly, but at least they tried.
3) I hope that these Women will learn that they have to take care of themselves and their children. Their leaders and "men" will run and hide instead of protect them. They need to stand up and start acting like REAL mothers and women - not cowering servants.
While the CPS case may be falling apart, I hope you and the other FLDS reading and posting here have taken notice that only you find your actions acceptable. No one else in America finds your cult-like actions reasonable. So rather than get all excited that maybe you will get the kids back next year, why don't you figure out how to reasonably co-exist with everyone? And figure out how to worship without forsaking your family? Because the ONLY reason you even care about your family is because you have some weird idea that it will get you into a higher level of heaven and you will rule over others. Just the fact that you all consider someone to be Jesus on earth, and then they die so now you think the son is Jesus on earth... yeah - right - it gets handed down just like Ceasar.
So your whole "religion" is about power, and you will use anyone and everyone to accomplish your goals. In case you didn't know, preying on innocent women and children, and stealing their futures, really isn't the best way to get on the good side of the all-powerful.
"Why is moving to another house equal to denouncing religion. I've moved 5 times and never renounced my religion. The state wants to know that these children won't be living with child abusers."
Have you been FORCED to move because the government told you to in order to keep your kids? The FLDS women appeared to live in SAFE and CLEAN homes on the ranch. The only reason CPS wants them to move is because it is a RELIGIOUS community. CPS has yet to demonstrate any abuse in the many homes on the ranch.
Did they lose a baby, or did they make up a file. Either way this court and the CPS case workers are making for an interesting circus act for the whole world to see. They are denying many innocent people their rights by clumping them all together like this that started whole-heartedly as a bonafide concentration camp.
Get the perps. Leave the innocent ones alone.
1.Moving to another house is equal to denouncing the religion when it is away from normal ability to practice.
2. Are you willing to have your children removed by CPS if there is a pregnant teen in your subdivision? Why is there not the Widespread Abuse that CPS claimed and the very reason ALL children were removed? That is the problem, especially since even the FLDS claimed that there may indeed have been some young pregnancies but that it is OUTSIDE the norm...as seems to be the case based on real numbers.
Where are the "so many young girls? It seems most minors are being reclassified as adults now that the courts are validating drivers licenses and birth certificates which CPS refused initially because they could.
3. The women are taking care of themselves as they have for many years...well until CPS decided the kids were the wrong religion and read the wrong book including the Book of Mormon. The men left because it is not heroic to jump in front of a truck for no apparent reason. They ARE real mothers and women as they raise their children in beliefs they hold precious, even if you don't.
Agnostic
they did produce bith certs. "Judge" Walther said that she would not accept them, as she felt they were forged. Meanwhile, they have been getting certified copies from their respective birth states and this is exactly HOW they are proving one by one, they are indeed adults.
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