Comments about ‘Deputies defend fatal car chase’

This is a no-brainer for Most non-police. Chasing a car in traffic is like shooting at a person standing in a crowd. You are using deadly force that will just as likely result in the death of some innocent as it is that you will kill the actual target. The more often our police act irresponsibly and reckless by entering into high speed chases, the more likely we will be losing innocent bystanders. We need to reign in our police before it is too late.

Because of the elevated danger when someone flees from police using a car, the crime should hold a penalty of no less than fifteen years.

What concerns me is the strangle hold on society which the police so strongly protect. Not the welfare of innocent civilians, instead defending their actions as they cause the death of a man who was supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. How else would a authoritarian defend these actions, other than to attempt to cast additional blame pretending the individual was involved in much more serious crime...blanket ancusations designed to create public feeling against the deseased. Sounds like our police force is upholding "To protect and serve".

Anon - please explain to me how the police caused the death of a "supposed to be innocent" man who intentionally ran head-on into a semi-truck. None of this would have happened if the guy would have obeyed the law and pulled over. He lost his innocence the moment he decided to run from the police.

This is a no-brainer for anyone with a brain. The guy sped off, the guy did the high speeds, the guy did the endangering of public lives, the guy was the one who caused his own demise. The police just caught him at it, as is their job. Blaming the police because the guy was fleeing takes real effort to twist reality to unreality. He was presumed innocent, it was his own actions that caused final judgement to be meted out. The police didn't tell him to run, they didn't cause him to endanger the public. He was doing that himself. They were doing their jobs to catch him and bring him before the court where he would be presumed innocent. When the guy doesn't give the system a chance to work, it's his own fault, not the police. Anonymous sounds like he has an agenda againt the police. Take it to a counselor and get some help for your illness.......

I agree that the police have to chase him in that case. Otherwise, we do send a message to criminals that if they run, no one will chase them. It was the criminal's choice to run and endanger those lives. Also, the innocent until proven guilty argument is pretty lame. The perpetrator can use that defense if he's obeying the law, but in this case, are police to assume that he's just innocent and stop pursuing him? That would be ridiculous. Their whole purpose is to bring him in so that the judicial system can determine if he's innocent or guilty. The job of the police force is to bring in suspected criminals so they can be tried.

so what do you non supportive people of the police want them to do? Let them break the law and get away with it/ I say the police used their judgment and did what they needed too. unless you have walked amile in thier shoes maybe you shouldn't be so quick to put blame on officers who are out their to protect.

Wow, everyone acts the same,is that right? Do you really think a disturbed mind (mentally ill) works the same as your mind? I want to see the bad guys caught but not at the price of your or some other families death. How do the police know if they are after someone with your kind of mind or a mentally disturbed mind? Honestly, the police need more training in this area.

this is one of them double edge sword issues. We scream at our Law Enforcement Officers for doing their duties and then again we scream at them again when we think they are not doing enough...

What a screwy society...

The police chased a contractor who was in a contractual dispute with a property owner. He had not robbed a bank. He only became a "criminal" when he failed to stop for police. Evidence will show the man was mentally disturbed. The high speed chase endangered innocent people on an interstate highway full of weekend traffic.

Calling off a high speed pursuit in those circumstances would not send a message to criminals that they can evade police by outrunning them. Police knew who the man was, they knew his license plate number. They could have arrested him at his home later that day, or the next day, or the next week, in circumstances that would not have endangered innocent people on a busy highway.

I do agree that the punishment for evading needs to be increased. Right now, criminals who flee have the fleeing charge either tossed out in a plea bargain or receive a minor sentence that is run concurrently with their other charges. In effect, there is no repercussions for running. Our judges need to start punishing this extremely dangerous crime severly as a deterrent to others. If our judges continue to fail us, then our legislators need create a mandatory minimum for the crime.

The rest of your statement just shows ignorance of the reality of the problem. A criminal who recklessly uses a weapon (which includes a car in my opionion) to endanger bystanders is responsible for his own actions, not the cops who show up to arrest him. What is the difference between a gun and a car? If he had been shooting a gun down the road when the cop tried to stop would you blame the cops for someone being hit? After all, if the cops just left he wouldn't have had a reason to keep shooting and no one would have been injured.

No high speed chase was necessary, the car was identified and some road blocks coupled with spikes would have ended this without greater danger to the public. Of course that does not fall within the "fun" things to do. Until officers actually start treating regular law abiding citizens with respect, we will continue to question their tactics.

As long as idiots think they can run away from the consequences of their actions they will run.
Criminals are criminals because they are stupid enough to think they can get away with violating the rights and safety of others.
If they are not pursued when they run, then anyone that feels they can go fast enough and drive reckless enough to have a chase called off will do it.
This will promote more high speed /reckless attempts at escape.
If you fail to obey a law enforcement officer, you are no longer innocent of a crime.
If you attempt to shoot a law enforcement officer, you should be shot and killed.
If you attempt to kill innocent people, you should be shot and killed.
If you run from a law enforcement officer and endanger innocent lives, you should be shot and killed.
You have to admit it would make you think twice before running just because you dont want to face the consequences of whatever you did.

Officers are supposed to be servants of society as well as the individual. Unfortunately most officers abuse their authority and show no respect for the common citizen, it is how the system trains them to act and no fault of their own spend most of their time writing tickets to generate funds

You ''bleeding heart liberals'' on here make me sick. The deputies tried spike sticks, the driver tried to dodge the sticks, and spun out of control. As far as terminating the chase, and apprehending the driver later today, or tomorrow, or next week -- why give the dude the opportunity to get home, barricade himself in, and have an armory of rifles and pistols lined up and aimed at the door when the police agencies arrive? Give the police agencies some slack, they never know when some idiot will pull a gun and take out the officer PLUS a lot of innocent bystanders. Have we had any comments from any of the other drivers on the road at the time? What are their opinions of this little joy ride the driver decided the initiate? GO, COPS!

I wish you would refrain from claiming to speak for everyone. I'm non-police and I support law enforcement using reasonable force to catch suspects(including persuing those who run).

I totally don't agree with you, so don't claim to speak for all non-police.

As for your "Chasing someone in traffic is like shooting at someone standing in a crowd" analogy. What police officer do you know that would shoot at someone standing in a crowd?

I think those who decide to run from police need to know that the chances this will make their problem go away are very slim. I don't know how you think "reiging in our police", or a "No Chase" policy, will make you safer (as if the police are the ones you should fear).

You're on the fringe. Don't claim to speak for everyone.

My gripe with the police is that at 11:00 PM, they had cones up to merge the 3 lanes into just one lane without any signs to warn me 1st. Also, they only used about 100 feet to move us over so it was pretty immediate. They had a couple of accident management trucks with the lights telling us to stay right, but that was further down the road after we were already into just one lane.
I was in the far left lane and had to brake very hard to get in behind some semi's.

SOME OF THE COMMENTS READ AS BROWNSHIRT PROPAGANDA AKA "the nazi party" duh yu thunk L.G.,and I,m not a liberal just joe citizen.

As I headed west from PC on Sunday afternoon with my small children asleep in the backseat, I had no idea what awaited us seconds ahead. Upon cresting Parleys Summit there was a scene of total chaos...multiple police cars driving in the median, kicking up enormous amounts of dust with traffic everywhere trying to get out of the way. Seconds later a cloud of pure white smoke erupted ahead and in an instant we came upon the tanker truck, which appeared to be jacknifed, and a demolished subaru, very much on fire. I was there and I can tell you it is amazing that bystanders weren't killed or injured...and I later learn that the chase had been ongoing for 30 minutes??? why not just close the canyon???

What some people here don't realize is the primitive ways the police use, no other developed country in the world uses high speed chases to stop violators. Its not just the perp but its also the police who are danger to the innocent, how would you like to get hit by a police cruiser going 100mph just because he was chasing a perp. High speed chases are dangerous not because of the perp but also because of the police. Plus how does it usually end- with a crash, even when using spikes i'm sure having all your tires blown out going 70+ is not going to end peacefully. The police initiated pursuit they could have followed him undercover and arrested him on an interesection or used some kind of peace of technology to kill the ecu on his car. The perp could have hit a small family car instead of a semi. The police is just as dangerous during a high speed pursuit to the innocent bystanders. Plus what if the perp was some stupid young kid in his dad's sports car, he doesn't deserve to die. Police need a new system when a person doesn't yeild to police.

also i think what many people here fail to take into consideration is that the police have to make a split second decision. It is a lot easier to sit here an play tuesday morning quarterback.