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FLDS leader's lawyers seek dismissal of indictment
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Toria | 10:30 a.m. May 16, 2008
Warren Jeff's is GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY! He's a inbreed worm who lies
around through his teeth. These FLDS stories nauseate me.
Smear Tactics | 10:42 a.m. May 16, 2008
As usual, according to the FLDS, every single person who has ever escaped the
FLDS is a liar. Nothing they say about what goes on behind closed doors in the
FLDS community is true.
Their standard method for dealing with people whom they can no longer control is a smear campaign.
Their standard method for dealing with people whom they can no longer control is a smear campaign.
betty | 11:37 a.m. May 16, 2008
his lawyers want to know if anyone is making money from their testimony. i want
to know where jeffs is getting all his money??? a lot of lawyers, working long
hours, lots of wives and children to supposdly support. are you making money of
this trial, jeffs??
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Yuck... | 11:39 a.m. May 16, 2008
The attorneys have found a gold mine with the FLDS.
When they are done, if ever, the FLDS will have little left to help the thousands of followers impacted by this sad story.
When they are done, if ever, the FLDS will have little left to help the thousands of followers impacted by this sad story.
No Idea | 12:01 p.m. May 16, 2008
You people have no idea whats going on here, do you?
More Smear Tactics | 12:09 p.m. May 16, 2008
As usual, according to the anti FLDS, every single person associated with the
FLDS is a liar. Nothing they say about what goes on behind closed doors in the
FLDS community is true.
Their standard method for dealing with people whom they can't control is a smear campaign and denial of due process.
Their standard method for dealing with people whom they can't control is a smear campaign and denial of due process.
COSMO | 12:39 p.m. May 16, 2008
Same Sex Marriage Good, Polygamy Bad! Go figure.
What? | 12:54 p.m. May 16, 2008
Karl Malone got a 12 year old pregnant? Not sure what that has to do with the
FLDS but interesting never-the-less. By the way, it's Carolyn Jessop, not
Caroline.
Get a Clue | 12:57 p.m. May 16, 2008
You basically have a handful of women that have left the church over a couple of
dozen years and most of them have no profited on the venture of leaving. They
have created a METAPHOR of themselves seeking to replace Church Leaders with
themselves as spokespersons for those remaining. Flora Jessops moved to San
Angelo in 2005 and now Texas looks at the FLDS as somekind of criminal cult
which does not seem like the case here Back East from my unbiased perch. If
these folks were tried in Pennsylvania instead of Utah, Arizona or Texas, they
would have already walked free. Wearing dresses you make yourself, and leaders
sactioning marriages is not a crime.
Bruce | 1:01 p.m. May 16, 2008
Before this whole FLDS situation came to light, I just read the papers, listened
to the media and figured Warren Jeffs was a guilty power-hungry jerk. Having
had a few days lately to look at both sides of the story and research things a
little deeper, I am of the opinion that he was railroaded. I'm ashamed of
myself for prejudging this guy. I would urge anyone that has not objectively
looked at both sides to do so. It is disturbing what has happened to him.
No, I'm not FLDS.
No, I'm not FLDS.
GAL50 | 1:27 p.m. May 16, 2008
Elissa Wall's book is quickly climbing the charts. It's no longer
ranked number 52, it's now number 31.
What is interesting about this story is that when 14 year-old Elissa raised her objections such as she is only 14, she is not ready yet, certainly you must have me confused with one of my older (half) sisters, Warren Jeffs didn't budge an inch and forced her to get married to her cousin.
Now Warren Jeffs and his lawyer expect the court to respond to all of their whiny-butt concerns. I hardly think America has too much sympathy for their tactics.
Utah has spoken, Arizona is speaking and Texas will be speaking next. And I hardly think a state as strong as Texas is going to go for a measly five-year sentence. I, for one, will be shocked if Texas doesn't go for life.
What is interesting about this story is that when 14 year-old Elissa raised her objections such as she is only 14, she is not ready yet, certainly you must have me confused with one of my older (half) sisters, Warren Jeffs didn't budge an inch and forced her to get married to her cousin.
Now Warren Jeffs and his lawyer expect the court to respond to all of their whiny-butt concerns. I hardly think America has too much sympathy for their tactics.
Utah has spoken, Arizona is speaking and Texas will be speaking next. And I hardly think a state as strong as Texas is going to go for a measly five-year sentence. I, for one, will be shocked if Texas doesn't go for life.
wyogirl | 1:54 p.m. May 16, 2008
Back East: The FLDS of the west are not like the Amish of Pennsylvania - those
of us who live here know that. They may both wear unusual clothing and have
other non-traditional customs, but these are their only similarities. The FLDS
leader is a convicted sex offender and he has amazing power over these people.
The people in the west have had to supplemented their way of life for decades.
Towns nearby have created "Lost Boys" homeless shelters to house the
teen-age boys who are kicked out or run away from the FLDS leaders. We see the
lives these people lead - and it isn't pretty.
Please don't insult the good Amish people of Pennsylvania by associating them with the FLDS just because they both wear non-traditional clothes.
Please don't insult the good Amish people of Pennsylvania by associating them with the FLDS just because they both wear non-traditional clothes.
Who cares | 1:55 p.m. May 16, 2008
Who Cares about the truth, Print up up some more Garbage, so we can keep our
anger up, I am speaking for all Parties.
Contrarian | 2:12 p.m. May 16, 2008
Gal50: You say Texas will "go for life". Life for whom, for what
offense? As far as I know, no one has brought criminal charges against any FLDS
member in Texas.
Liars? | 2:16 p.m. May 16, 2008
There is lying coming from BOTH sides of this. Or should I say, from all THREE
sides... yes, I'm (oh my! shock!) saying I think Texas authorities lied
too. They haven't been able to actually prove things they claimed as fact,
some has come to light as incorrect, and have left out information, which is
lying as well. There is no doubt Jeffs isn't a prophet, and admitted so.
And yes, those statements by the now adult, can't possibly be true, it
makes no sense. It sounds like she beefed up her story to get more sympathy...
there's a lot of people out there that do that everyday. I'm still
not sure Jeffs himself was railroaded, but their community as a whole definitely
was. Shame on Texas and everyone here ranting hatred.
Anonymous | 2:52 p.m. May 16, 2008
Re: No Smear 1 and 2
You prove my point.
Re: Contrarian
Be patient.
Re: Bruce
Study harder.
Re: Who cares
You care.
Re: Get a Clue
Strawman alert.
You prove my point.
Re: Contrarian
Be patient.
Re: Bruce
Study harder.
Re: Who cares
You care.
Re: Get a Clue
Strawman alert.
COSMO | 2:53 p.m. May 16, 2008
RE: GAL50;I sense a great amount of bitterness and hatred within your posts.
Whatever Warren Jeffs has been accused or convicted of is one thing,but why
do
you have such a vendetta against women and children that have done you no harm. If some of the men at the YFZ Ranch have violated the law,then let that be
addressed,and those individuals accountable, make their restitution to the law. But must you express
such hatred?
you have such a vendetta against women and children that have done you no harm. If some of the men at the YFZ Ranch have violated the law,then let that be
addressed,and those individuals accountable, make their restitution to the law. But must you express
such hatred?
J-man | 2:58 p.m. May 16, 2008
To Bruce: You are absolutely correct. Warren got a raw deal. I propose that
Warren Jeffs be released and allowed to return to his flock and continue
outlawing the color red (I guess that goes for the American flag too, huh?);
keep killing all the dogs in Colorado City; prevent children from attending
school; force underage girls into marriages with much older men for their sexual
pleasure; tell his congregation that church attendance is not mandatory as along
as they keep the tithing coming directly to him; teach the women in Colorado
City how to "bleed the beast"; separate families by telling a father
that his family is no longer his and that he must repent from afar; and be
allowed to expand his empire.
Do you honestly think that the FBI just randomly placed him on their Top 10 list????
While we are at it, why don't we put his name on the ballot for president too?
Do you honestly think that the FBI just randomly placed him on their Top 10 list????
While we are at it, why don't we put his name on the ballot for president too?
Smells stinky! | 3:22 p.m. May 16, 2008
Smells pretty stinky! And when you thought the smell couldn't get worse. Lo
and behold! PU-WEE! cough, cough cough! I say, to protect the environment keep
Jeffs locked up.
FBI list | 3:35 p.m. May 16, 2008
"Do you honestly think that the FBI just randomly placed him on their Top
10 list????" Well, they have had him behind bars for quite some time yet
where is a federal charge? Oh wait, there isn't any, but the feds did
manage control over the money. So it that was this is about...the money trail.
Well that certainly explains why TX claimed they were rescuing innocent little
victims of child rape but are now looking through accounting books. Sorry, but
as a died in the wool agnostic, I smell a rat.
Sharon | 4:13 p.m. May 16, 2008
J-man...just want to say..I enjoy reading your posts....right to the point...
Wonder if the FLDS members know we might have a Black president this Nov. Thanks
to Warren Jeffs off the wall teaching "DAMNED TO HEAVEN-BLACK
RACE"...they are probably scared to death. Wonder who is driving Jeffs
fancy RED Caddy around..hmmmm or maybe its setting outside the prison waiting
for him, so when he gets his conviction over-turned, he can ride off into the
sun-set....NOT !! aint gonna happen !
To Bruce | 4:26 p.m. May 16, 2008
Did your research, Bruce, include the testimonies of Lost Boys that were
molested by Jeffs?
Bob | 4:34 p.m. May 16, 2008
Jumping out the window to escape Warren Jeffs---hmmm? Kinda reminds me of the
anti Mormon tract where a young girl jumps out a window of the SL temple into
the Great Salt Lake and swims away. You'd think after a 100 years the John
Hagees of the world could up with something new.
Anonymous | 4:46 p.m. May 16, 2008
Go to the FLDS wed sire TruthWillPrevail, to find the letters written by Maggie
Jessop and Samuel Roundy in their entirety. The SL Tribune and Deseret
didn't dare publish them in full. I'm on the side of the lawyers
representing Warren Jeffs, I'm one of those followers impacted by this sad
story.
Thanx COSMO!
Thanx COSMO!
Hey TO Bruce | 4:59 p.m. May 16, 2008
Allegedly molested by Jeffs. That's the problem, most of your people do
not understand the law and how it is supposed to be applied....innocent until
proven guilty. He has not yet been proven guilty of molestation only of
accomplice to rape while the alleged rapist has not yet even gone to trial.
the book | 5:31 p.m. May 16, 2008
isnt there a book or something explaining a bunch of this, "Stolen
Ignorance" or something like that?
Sharon | 6:07 p.m. May 16, 2008
REPLY TO ANONYMOUS 4:46 May 16
I am also impacted by the sad stories coming from ex-FLDS members. Sad, that it took such along time for these people to be saved from the likes of Warren Jeffs and others like him.
I read both stories wrote by Samuel Roundy and Maggie Jessop.
It is true, there is whore-mongers, killers,
thieves, rapists...etc as stated by Samuel Roundy on the outside of the compound. Only thing is Sam old boy, neglected to point out...the same thing is going on inside the FLDS compound, but I guess he thinks thats ok since the Almighty Prophet Jeffs and the Prophets before Jeffs, preaches...its all in the name of religion.
As far as Maggie's story goes ..rolling my eyes...I'd of been more prone to believe it,,,if it was wrote by the college educated Kathleen Jessop !
I am also impacted by the sad stories coming from ex-FLDS members. Sad, that it took such along time for these people to be saved from the likes of Warren Jeffs and others like him.
I read both stories wrote by Samuel Roundy and Maggie Jessop.
It is true, there is whore-mongers, killers,
thieves, rapists...etc as stated by Samuel Roundy on the outside of the compound. Only thing is Sam old boy, neglected to point out...the same thing is going on inside the FLDS compound, but I guess he thinks thats ok since the Almighty Prophet Jeffs and the Prophets before Jeffs, preaches...its all in the name of religion.
As far as Maggie's story goes ..rolling my eyes...I'd of been more prone to believe it,,,if it was wrote by the college educated Kathleen Jessop !
cosmo: | 6:10 p.m. May 16, 2008
Gays will marry. Two people who love each other. They tend to be upscale
professionals who adopt children and care for them. There have been no
allegations of impropriety that I can recall. FLDS men will marry underaged
girls and have numerous children they can't support. Charges of rape and
abandonment galore. Go figure.
Sharon | 6:22 p.m. May 16, 2008
FOR ANONYMOUS 4:46 May16,
The Deseret News, had no reason to publish those letters entirely. They gave us the site to go into, that was enough. Seeing that you know this site so well "TruthWillPrevail"...I would like for you to ask them...why they didnt put a message board on their site.....I guess they didnt want to hear from people that dont or wont agree with them !,,,,EH?
The Deseret News, had no reason to publish those letters entirely. They gave us the site to go into, that was enough. Seeing that you know this site so well "TruthWillPrevail"...I would like for you to ask them...why they didnt put a message board on their site.....I guess they didnt want to hear from people that dont or wont agree with them !,,,,EH?
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