Comments about ‘FLDS parents told to appear in court’

What I think a lot of people fail to realize with this whole issue is you have a lot of children at YFZ ranch/prison being raised by "mothers" that aren't even their mothers. You children that have been forced to leave their real parents and reassigned to someone else. That's kidnapping. Any "father" or "mother" at YFZ ranch/prison raising such children are guilty of either kidnapping or are an accomplice. I'm sorry, no religion has the right to take mine or anyone elses' child away and give them to someone else that the church views as a better parent.

Texeas needs to be broken up into about 15 smaller states. Too much power.

What has happened so far? 1. Just like the Lawrence V TX case, this one began with a fraudulent phone call. 2. The warrant has been dropped for the "abusive polygamist spouse" as false. 3. All children were removed. 4. Adult women were listed as children despite proof of age. 5. CPS admits that some "children" were women. 6. Though all were termed "polygamist" we have found that not all practice polygamy but are instead monogamous. 7. We found that despite the claim by CPS and Ex-flds, of "no competitive activities", there are basketball courts that are used among the Colorado City FLDS. 8. Despite the claim of welfare fraud, TX found no instances of welfare among the TX FLDS. 9 Despite the claim of underage marriage, the bishop's records show that women were 16, the legal age according to TX law. 10. Despite claims of physical abuse due to broken bones, the number of broken bones was LOWER than the average population. 11. Despite the claim that these people live communally, they live in separate apartments as family groups.

This is basic procedure. The service plans look like standard service plans as well.

CPS is not going to want polygamy in these children's lives. It is going to want the parents to protect the children's rights. This means that Warren Jeffs or the FLDS church will not be able to assign husbands to child brides or to transport young girls to other destinations. He won't be able to order underage boys out of their homes. He won't be able to reassign wives to husbands.

How does someone who has followed Warren Jeff's every order prove to the court that she will discontinue doing this? Certainly not by living in FLDS housing. The polygamous husbands have probably long disappeared. The moms will have to show that they can function independently. The moms are undereducated and may not even have high school diplomas. They've been pushed to have lots of children and they never prepared for the day when they would have to support all of these kids on their own. While the moms work, the kids will have to be in public school, which would be a awful place to be if you sport an odd hairdo/dress.

Kidnapping,

And I'm sorry, no government has the right to take mine or anyone else's child away and give them to someone else that the government views as a better parent.

These children deserve a chance at being in homes where they know who their mother and father are and can be themselves. I agree with kidnapping on everything and applaud the government of TX for taking on such a huge undertaking in hopes of salvaging their innocence & childhood.

Even if they promise to change their life-style... who thinks these parents can afford to employ the kind of representation required to fight the government in court?

No matter what they do they will never see their children again. Get used to it.

CPS is putting the parents on notice, that it's time for the true legal parents/guardians of each child to identify themselves.

No more hiding. No more equivocating.

If they want their children back, it's showtime (as in, show legal proof that these are your children).

They should have gone after FLDS men instead of the women. The men are the ones to blame and should be the ones in custody just like Warren Jeffs. Kind of backwards.

This poor soul is practicing "his" religion and forcing it on women and children.

That is just wrong.

Texas was wrong in their attempt to protect the children. They should have taken all the men.

The women and children are brainwashed and brought up this way...so know no other.

It's a sad situation for all. But, when so called men get a little power...look what they can do with it...

Women are not meant to be slaves to their husbands or men folk...neither are the children meant to be slaves to old men who want to sleep around.

Call it religion, but I call it disgusting.

Things should have been handled better...no doubt...this world is in a mess with it's own problems...bottom line...these children need someone to protect them...and if the parents will not, then the state has to do it...although their approach and tactics were dead wrong.

Why, Samuel Roundy, you're lying for the Lord, aren't you?

You know why there's such a small divorce rate among the FLDS? Because most of the wives are not legally married to their husbands! That really skews the statistics, doesn't it, when most of the women do not have legal ties to the men they call "husbands."

And yet, these wives and their children can be taken away ("reassigned" is the euphemism used in the FLDS) from one man and given to another, if Warren Jeffs (or whoever happens to be in charge at the moment) decides to do so.

You may have escaped from what you consider to be the whoredoms of this evil world, but you've replaced it with child marriage, "reassignment" and the Lost Boys. No Thanks!

Your delusional to think that a foster home is a better place for these children.

The Children are well adjusted and intelligent.

The Women although not encouraged had free movement.

The ones being brainwshed are any person who feels this is justifeid in any way shape or form.

It is wrong on so many levels that it sickens me.

The State VS the Family. The State is winning look
at Calif. Soon people will be able to marry there pets.

Any of you who beleive the Goverment, should follow the Police to the KOOL aid so you won't miss the train to Heaven.

WAKE UP

If the flds parents ever want to get their children back they will have to start cooperating with the Texas CPS authorities. That may be difficult for many of them since they are so used to accepting whatever Warren Jeffs tells them; even when following his edicts leads to illegal behavior.

I quote:
"Because most of the wives are not legally married to their husbands!"
If they are not "legally married"
How can they be arrested or charged with "Bigamy" or "Polygamy"
As the law is written, it requires a a minimum of 2 "legal" marriages with papers to be charged.
No wedding,No crime. One wife and multiple girlfriends, the normal situation in the good ole USA

I hope that the lawyers give Texas heck!!

"... these wives and their children can be taken away ("reassigned" is the euphemism used in the FLDS) from one man and given to another, ... "

Well, better that then "reassigned" to a secular foster home as Texas CPS advocates.
As for "child marriage", Texas didn't seem to have a problem with their ghettos and barrios full of teen pregnancies, who will never be married, until FLDS showed up....then all of a sudden they needed to raise the legal age from 14 to 16.
Religious persecution at it's ugliest. When it's all said and done, the civil rights attorneys are going to rip Texas a new one.

To: Poor soul

You know next to nothing about this case.

Go read up on it before you post again so you don't look like such a fool.

Texas and cps continues to disgust me.

To: FLDS Divorce Rate (It's a NICKNAME dufus!)

Don't waste our time with the same tired, baseless accusations.

The FLDS deny everything you accuse them of.

Offer up evidence or shut up.

Let's get this fact through our thick skulls: This case is not about children, nor is is about protecting children; this case is about the State of Texas determining for itself which laws it will follow and which laws it will ignore.

Texas has no desire to protect children, since it has the highest rate of teenage pregnancies in the nation. If Texas was really concerned about teenage pregnancies and if Texas used the same methods to control teenage pregnancies, it would have at least 80,000 teenage mothers in custody (per year) along with their parents and all of their siblings. Anyone can Google Texas teenage pregnancies and find the facts for themselves.

Texas has made a total mockery of our government. They have decided to oppress a segment of society, a segment made up of CITIZENS of the United States, then to spread lies about those people. Texas has run unchecked. Senators and Representatives have hidden under their desks, claiming that this a problem for Texas. That's for us, the people of this nation, to determine. If a Senator or Representative is too busy to help, he/she is too busy to stay in office.