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Slowdown found in assimilation of immigrants

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  • Grayce
    Oct. 16, 2009 8:20 a.m.

    ...and I'm in the process of rejecting all assimilation to Americans. The concept is not working. Pay attention to what was here before, all that surrounds the land, and all brought here in chains. There lies the answer to the true possibly of a great future.

    "30" on the Assimilation Index (I speak the European language English), and I pay taxes (helps you more than it helps me).

  • Grayce
    Oct. 16, 2009 8:16 a.m.

    The only illegal people here are Europeans who weren't invited. Mexicans belong here from the Atlantic to the Pacific. I'm not Mexican nor speak Spanish, and I help them in every way possible to what is right. If you don't like it here, Europe is not to far away. Please go back. We asked you kindly.

  • OneifbyLand
    May 19, 2008 12:08 p.m.

    When in Rome do as the Romans do!
    Mexicans are NOT coming to the USA
    to become Americans,they are here
    to create an Illegal Mexican Nation within
    the borders of the USA!!
    STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!!

    numbersusa
    americanpatrol
    grassfire
    saveourstate
    alipac

  • Bobby
    May 14, 2008 7:25 p.m.

    California seniors and other citizens must pay higher and higher property taxes because Californias pandering, Mexican based in spirit, politicians keep demanding more and more schools for the illegal alien children who should not even be here, have never had permisson to be here, in fact. When will politicians feel sympathy for the citizens who are having a hard time for a change?

    Mexico is a rich nation. In fact it is the 10-12th richest nation in the world. Its corrupt politicians pay the lowest taxes on their income of any polticians in the Western Hemisphere. The Mexican Presidential Palace has Mercedes, Rolls Royce and other assorted limousines parked in front of it. It makes the old White House look like a dump. Whatever, either Americans get it, or they don't and those that don't, don't speak for those that do. We aren't interested in your ignorant, uninformed opinion. Especially the taxpayers of California. I know, I've talked to tons of them.

  • Bobby
    May 14, 2008 1:30 p.m.

    Censorship on the internet?? I see.

  • Yeh Ling-Ling
    May 14, 2008 10:01 a.m.

    Your article, "Slowdown found in assimilation of immigrants," reports a phenomenon not surprising to any American who is not blind. In areas where immigrants are the majority, how can they become assimilate? An immigration moratorium coupled with the abolishment of all "bilingual" education and multi-lingual ballots are necessary steps if we wish immigrants to have a chance to assimilate.
    Yeh Ling-Ling
    Oakland, CA

  • Robin
    May 14, 2008 6:08 a.m.

    Why are individuals from south of the border in our country illegally? Why are they in the U.S.? Because we have a country that runs quite well - in large part due to the fact we are a nation of law abiding citizens. Yet, people from countries like Mexico - instead of following our laws - arrive illegally and then supplant their culture - rather than assimilate. They want to use America for its money - not because they believe in the ideals and laws of America. So rather than leave their failed countries behind, they seek to replace the success of America with a hybrid of their nation.

  • Won Chang Hwang
    May 14, 2008 2:22 a.m.

    Immigrants, regardless of where they come from don't assimilate very well. I have Korean neighbors living in LA,have a US citizenship, but never speak English.
    That's not all. Since foreign media is allowed in US, those immigrants become addicted to the programs coming from their homeland and ignore what is happening in this country. That's a pretty shame for me even though I am an immigrant myself, because they should be proud of being Americans.

  • Paul in MD
    May 13, 2008 12:07 p.m.

    to Liberal Larry - Your depiction of the Republican party is pure caricature. Oh, I don't doubt that there are a few isolated people out there who fit into your two "wings" of the GOP. In reality, the bulk of the party wants to get the government back to doing just the few basic things it was initially constructed to do - provide physical protection (armies), and regulate interstate commerce. Over the last hundred years or so, power-hungry politicians from BOTH sides of the aisle have twisted the Constitution and written extremely poor laws to expand the government to provide ever more for the people. As another poster said, Americans want to do less while the government provides more.

    There is a story of a small village that wanted to use a herd of wild pigs to feed themselves better. They tried everything, but could not capture them. A man offered to help. He went into the woods, and a few days later came back with the herd following like sheep. All he had to do was feed them. Provide so they don't have to work, and they will follow.

    Thus we see the liberal agenda illustrated.

  • LOL
    May 13, 2008 11:59 a.m.

    A study conducted by a "conservative think tank." Who cuts the checks for these "researchers" and can money influence results?

    This is the scientist in me.

    How do you make accurate comparisons with subjective data a hundred years old? How do you normalize date without using the same methodology to collect your dataset?

    Intellectual inquiry requires you know how a study was conducted.

    We know that New York had Little Italy. Italian was the dominate language spoken in this community. San Francisco had China Town. Few spoke English there. There were the Polish in Chicago. Where did German Town get its name?

    I'm not buying this study. I do find it humorous so many are willing to accept it as fact because they like the sound of it.

  • Hey!
    May 13, 2008 11:47 a.m.

    What would make anyone think they are interested in assimilating or becoming good Americans?
    They bailed out on their own country; if it is such a crummy place instead of running away work to make it better, and hold you're own leaders accountable.
    Breaking the law and taking what isn't yours is not the answer.

  • what happened to fairness?
    May 13, 2008 11:44 a.m.

    Can anyone tell me why we are favoring Mexican immigrants over everyone else in the world? Are they more educated or have better skill sets than Koreans? Can they speak English better than Filipinos? Are they more deserving politically than the Hmong? Are they poorer than Haitians? Do they have stronger family values than Vietnamese? Are they more imperiled than Iraqis?

    Setting international comparisons aside, can anyone honestly suggest that we're getting Mexico's best and brightest? Are crime rates among these folks less than other groups? Why does Mexico strictly guard its border and deport foreign nationals while encouraging their own (poorest, least educated) citizens to migrate north?

    We don't buy these bogus arguments about compassion. It's really about the power to shape public policy. Businesses and other special interest groups benefit while the rank & file taxpayer bears the burden, and the county as a whole declines on the world stage.

  • KVC
    May 13, 2008 11:37 a.m.

    Elisabeth- You must support illegal immigration and its propagation based on your statements. It is not the duty of this nation to take on the burden of illegal immigrants and providing not only for their general education, but also for extra support that we cannot afford. There is a budget deficit, and our government already spends too much money on discretionary pork projects, not to mention extra law enforcement and Border Patrol that is a direct result of illegal immigration. If individuals from Latin America did not try to illegally enter our country, or smuggle drugs, we could slash the Border Patrol spending by billions. Instead, they believe they are not subject to our laws and sovereignty.

    They also do not believe it is their responsibility to help fix things in their own country. While Americans try to fix things in their country, illegals just flee to another nation where things are better. And they would all flee the USA if they thought the economic situation was better somewhere else.

    They want the easy way out, which is why they also do not learn English or assimilate, because it is too hard and they have no loyalty to the USA.

  • Of course . . .
    May 13, 2008 11:28 a.m.

    . . other papers put a different headline on the story.

    They are liberal rags spinning the propaganda that illegal aliens benefit America.

  • KingM
    May 13, 2008 11:24 a.m.

    There's also the simple question of numbers. Studies show that we'll reach 500 million people by 2050, due to immigration and new births to immigrants. Otherwise, the population would largely stabilized.

    If you think immigration is good and that these higher numbers are good, is there a point at which the country would be "full?" If not 500 million, how about a billion? Can we stop at two billion? Is that enough for our country?

  • To Anonymous
    May 13, 2008 11:20 a.m.

    It is not our duty to meet them halfway. It is not our duty to assimilate to their culture. Whom is coming to whose country. They are coming here. It is not about superiority, it is about being American.
    By your token, those living in other countries should all learn English and assimilate to American culture and meet us halfway when we go to their countries. It is unfair that our missionaries should have to learn a foreign language. Do they think they are superior to us?
    The simple fact is, if you want to move to a new country, for whatever reason, it is your duty to assimilate to that nation and their language and culture. It is not an unreasonable thing to ask. It is on the otherhand unreasonable for a minority to attempt to force an overwhelming majority to learn their language so that they do not have to learn ours. Every other immigrant group has done so, why should this group of immigrants be any different.

  • BBKing
    May 13, 2008 10:39 a.m.

    The first comment is right on the money. This is where good enforcement and no incentives for illegal behaviour is key. Add to this is that America has really become a prescriptive nation and people. I believe that is the term to reflect that we expect more to be done for us. We are not quite as self-sufficient as prior generations of Americans.

    What we need is a great public or private program of assimilation. This would educate the Legal immigrats on the concepts of individuality, free markets, etc.

    New immigrants are learning powerful lessons about modern America. Every time they receive WIC, foodstamps, free health care, etc they are learning that Karl Marx was right. From what I understand this learning is part of their assimilation, and it is not good. We are incorporating entire generations of 'Americans' who believe money grows on trees and the supremacy of government.

    We need to be much more proactive about this. Fighting legislation is only one part of this discussion.

  • US Proud
    May 13, 2008 10:28 a.m.

    I completely agree with US Citizen. We - the US - give immigrants no incentative to learn our culture when we bend over backwards to be so accomodating to them. They came to this country willingly - they should learn to be in this country. You can't have one foot in the US & one foot still in your homeland. Either you want to be an American or you don't. You can't have it both ways. My husband is a Border Patrol Agent in SWTX & I find myself being more & more irritated with invading cultures & much less tolerant of people who speak Spanish. While I applaud our early immigrants (of every country), they embraced their new homeland - they didn't sneer at the new things to learn. America is fast losing it's identity & it doesn't even know it.

  • martha thousand oaks
    May 13, 2008 9:52 a.m.

    Our corrupt govt. does not want assimilation from the 33+ million illegals who have invaded our country. Notice the Spanish signs, directions, instructions, etc., placed next to our English signs, directions, instructions, etc. in every store, restaurant and most places of business? This president is currently replacing the USA by the North American Union (which will be comprised of Canada-USA-Mexico). Look up the N.A.U. on the Internet. Assimilation of illegals in their invasion is not necessary to the current US president. Wake up America.

  • Assimilation
    May 13, 2008 8:46 a.m.

    Assimilation is very important for immigration to happen. Having immigrants not wanting to assimilate or pandering to them so that they don't have to creates civic, community & country problems of division.
    Telling people to learn English, fly the proper Flag, advance their education et. al., this is not racism (or whatever -ism), this is just what is needed to have a Country prosper.
    AIMHO

  • martha thousand oaks
    May 13, 2008 8:29 a.m.

    It isn't necessary to our corrupt govt for assimilation of illegals---gaze upon all of the signs, directions, instructions in Spanish along side our marvelous English signs, directions and instructions. This govt gives the message illegals do not have to learn English. After all, the 33 million illegals which have invaded our country are essential to Bush's No. American Union (which will replace our USA with a union comprising Canada, USA and Mexico) --it is already underway. Look up N.A.U. on the internet.

  • Why not?
    May 13, 2008 8:25 a.m.

    Selwin Duke explains that immigrants fail to assimilate for two reasons:
    1) They don't want to
    2) We don't ask them to
    I find it interesting the way different news outlets are covering this study.
    The Washington Post headline: "Study Says Foreigners in US Adapt Quickly"
    UPI:"Latin immigrants to US don't assimilate"
    Miami Herald: "Newcomers assimilating quickly in US"
    MSNBC: "Immigrants assimilate quicker today, study shows"
    And Deseret News: "Slowdown found in assimilation of immigrants"
    I hope people read the report themselves to find out what it says.

  • Elisabeth
    May 13, 2008 8:17 a.m.

    There is also a deep current of resentment, bigotry and prejudice among many Utahans. Take, for example, almost native speaker above. Has he tried to reach out and use his language skills to reach children in the public schools that desperately need role models with minimal spanish skills and a whole lot of compassion? Why dont you start being part of the solution instead of contributing to the problem with your blanket statements. How do you think a legal immigrant child feels when she/he hears you talk about their culture like this. Amazing you served a Mission for a Christian church and cant even see the suffering of the immigrants in our own country. Stop blaming the victims of racial and political injustice. Look into the eyes of the children and ask yourself how you can help.

  • Wha?
    May 13, 2008 8:08 a.m.

    Interesting to compare and contrast the DNews article and the Washington Post article.

    Washington Post: "Report: Foreigners Adapt Quickly
    Immigrants have been assimilating at a notably faster rate than previous generations, study finds."

    DNews: "Slowdown found in assimilation of immigrants"

  • David
    May 13, 2008 8:07 a.m.

    Why should the Mexican illegals learn English when everything is given to them in Spanish?

  • wood1271
    May 13, 2008 7:42 a.m.

    Of course, why should they. We have made it easy for them not. That us why they have no love for this country because they don't feel any need to become a part of it. Once again the socialists are winning at destroyig this country.

  • broken
    May 13, 2008 7:16 a.m.

    More evidence that immigration is broken.
    Our nation depends on a healthy immigration system to keep our society and economy vital.

    No business could function long if 30% of it's "custoners" were shoplifters.
    Our immigration system will not survive long when 30% of "immigrants" are in fact illegal aliens.

    It has devastating implications for our nation.





    That system has broken down and

  • liberal larry
    May 13, 2008 6:43 a.m.

    Immigration is a horrible issue for the republicans. The capitalist, greed based, branch of the party loves the cheap labor, and the way semi-slave labor drives down the cost of wages in general. The right wing nut, fear based, conservatives are terrified of people who are so different from them, and are committing unforgivable crime of being "illegals!!!". It's time for both factions to grow up and come up with a workable solution to immigration problems.

  • Why bother?
    May 13, 2008 6:13 a.m.

    As long as we tolerate their lack of desire to become Americans rather than people of other nationalities that just want to live here and benefit from the other citizens, why should they bother. Not only is the assimilation rate down, but he illegal rate is up.

  • Anonymous
    May 13, 2008 5:39 a.m.

    Can someone please tell me why immigrants have to assimilate to us? Why not have native-born assimilate to the immigrants as well? Why can't we meet the immigrants half way?

    By expecting immigrants to change without changing ourselves, we are assuming that we are superior.

  • lost in DC
    May 13, 2008 5:19 a.m.

    There needs to be a desire for assimilation for there to be assimiation, and there is very little, if any. All they want is to take our jobs and our money, send the money back home, and transplant their own culture here. And not all the jobs they take are those we won't do.

    While there are many praiseworthy aspects to their culture such as strong family bonds and a strong work ethic there, the culture can bear part of the blame for the inability of their owns nations to develop economically to the point where they wouldn't need to come here.

  • US Citizen
    May 13, 2008 12:41 a.m.

    No surprises here. The immigrants from 100 years ago did not arrive to a welfare state willing to sign them up for free prenetal, child birth, emergency room services, WIC, food stamps all offered from bi-lingual speakers so you don't even have to bother learning English.

    It seems that we have endless businesses attempting to capitalize on Spanish speakers. There are multiple TV and Radio stations, Newspapers, stores, banks, etc... It seems that I'm back in Spanish class, every time I visit Home Depot and see their bilingual signs everywhere. No wonder I keep seeing interviews with Hispanics who came here 10 or 15 years ago and they still need a translator to communicate.

    Having learned a foreign language by studying abroad, I found myself fully immersed in the language and culture of my host country. By my 4th month abroad I was able to communicate pretty effectively. After a year, I was mistaken for a native speaker.