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Published: Sunday, Feb. 12 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The best thing we can do is separate leadership from religion.

roswell
Saint George, UT

40 years ago the mantra was to "stay out of my bedroom" and "stay out of my womb". For those so disposed, the accomplishment of this is not enough as they now, through their champions President Obama and Kathleen Sebelius, demand that someone else be responsible for providing the means to prevent or terminate pregnancy. While it may be true that the cost of contraception may be a burden for some, that does not make it the responsibility of someone else to pay for their choices. Chastity is also a choice, and quite frankly, the best form of birth control available. The logic and philosophy behind free birth control for all is flawed, yet a significant proportion of our citizenry and our national leadership have bought into it and promote it, and denying others their choice and freedom of conscience. Oh, the hypocrisy!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Once again, Charles Krauthammer is back on his rant...

Hey - Speaking of Gospel and American Presidents --
Has anyone yet bothered to ask GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney if he believes in the Law of Consecration, United Order or Social Justice?

That should throw the Anti-Union, Anti-Anything-Socialist, we hate all Communists [except the Chinese] Radical-right into a Political Tail-Spin.

BobP
Port Alice, B.C.

Unelecting Obama is the prime goal.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

LDS Liberal,

The man sitting in the Oval Office is Obama, not Romney. The man who has taken an oath of office to DEFEND the Constitution is Obama, not Romney. The man who told the Catholic Church that it must provide abortifacients and contraceptives to its members (who work at its charity hospitals) is Obama, not Romney.

When Romney is President, then you can question what he does or thinks, until then, why not concentrate on the man who sits in the oval office and lay off those who will unseat him?

What does YOUR Church say about government interference in Religion? Do YOU believe that the LDS Church should be FORCED to pay for abortifacients or even for contraceptives to those who work at the Bishop's Storehouse or at Primary Children's Hospital? Do YOU believe that the 1st Amendment should protect an establishment of religion from government interference or not?

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing. Defeat BHO and clean house, literally!

Army Prof
New York, NY

LDS Liberal--I don't know what Mitt Romney might say to answer your questions about the United Order and communism, but here's what the First Presidency said in 1942: "Communism and all other similar isms bear no relationship whatever to the United Order. They are merely the clumsy counterfeits which Satan always devises of the Gospel plan ... The United Order leaves every man free to choose his own religion as his conscience directs. Communism destroys man's God-given free agency; the United Order glorifies it. Latter-day Saints cannot be true to their faith and lend aid, encouragement, or sympathy to any of these false philosophies ..."

Is that clear enough for you? Tail-spin averted.

Kimber
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't believe our President was trying to give a "gospel"...just common sense. If people have more, they should give more. That is simplistic and some may not agree (I believe mostly those that HAVE more, may not tend to agree).

Mike in Texas
Cedar City, Utah

Is Krauthammer a 1 percenter? BYUalum. You make me happy I never went to BYU. All those required religion classes aparently taught you nothing important.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

So - All I can say to the Obama haters --
You must not really believe Christ, it was HE who said -
"For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required."

How about a little Logic test;

If Obama quotes Jesus,
Does that make Jesus wrong?

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Great column from Charles Krauthammer, as usual.

Wally West
SLC, UT

re: Hutterite 12:46 a.m. Feb. 12, 2012

"The best thing we can do is separate leadership from religion."

What would happen to the GOP? It might disintegrate.... darn!?

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

@ LDS Liberal 5:26 p.m. Feb. 12, 2012

"How about a little Logic test;

If Obama quotes Jesus,
Does that make Jesus wrong?"

Yes. Yes it does. Because, Obama is not a Republican. ROFL!

the truth
Holladay, UT

RE: LDS Liberal

So where did Jesus mention the government, or use the government to compel goodness and charity?

It was an individual mandate.

You are judged by your own works, not by the governments you form.

You are to work out your own salvaton, it is not collective.

newintown
WOODS CROSS, UT

@ Mike Richards:

Save your breath. LDS? Liberal is neither LDS or liberal.

krauthammer will be pilloried on these posts, but he is spot on in this article. Spot on. In the day, Obama would have been stoned to presume to speak in the name of God. How ironic that this secular president chooses to invoke the bible to support his social engineering and no one of his supporters raises the issue of "separation of church and state". What an absolute charlatain Obama is. And what an aberration that LDS Liberal supports his position.

newintown
WOODS CROSS, UT

@ LDS Liberal,

You have used the interpretation of the doctrine selectively as you so often do. Your assertion suggests that it is the responsibility of the state to demand that more be given by those who have more. It presumes that they do not give more already. Just curios, how does what you gave last year compare to what Romney gave? Are you measuring by percentages or actual amounts?

Or, do you have some special insight into what others give? many who have been given more give so much more that they don't broadcast for your benefit or for the amusement of others. They give and don't publish it for the accolades of man. All you see is what ceasar requires them to report.

Will your politics of class envy never find an end?

cindyacre
Shelley, ID

LIBERAL LDS: The use of the "word of God" or "Gospel of Christ" by governmental officials to extrapolate funds, and in this case, force health care mandates, at the point of duress and threat (in this case FINES) is nothing less than PRIESTCRAFT.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

When Jesus advised the young rich man to sell everything he had and give it to the poor, I am pretty sure he wasn't suggesting the young man send it to the Roman government for redistribution, Solyndra loans,paying for other people's birth control, their abortions or bail outs! My, how the definition of "compassion" has changed!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

newintown | 9:07 p.m. Feb. 12, 2012
WOODS CROSS, UT
@ Mike Richards:

Save your breath. LDS? Liberal is neither LDS or liberal.

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Regarding Jesus and taxes when the Conservative Pharisees asked him what to do - his reply,

"Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasars."

Money had Cearsars face on it.
Meaning - Just go ahead and pay your taxes.

Salvation has NOTHING to do with money.

You say I'm not a "real" LDS,
but it you who seem to be the ones worshipping Babylon and Mammon.

Owen
Heber City, UT

I keep asking the LDS literalists in these discussions the same question: why does it bother you that the government asks/commands you to do something God has already asked/commanded you to do (support the poor)? You are free to suffer the consequences of disobeying either - in this life or the next. You are specifically condemned to hell in your own scripture for trying to judge who's worthy of your support. I'm not bothered by the government asking me to give - even all. It's already a promise I made. Does it bother you that the government asks you not to murder?

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