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If Obama can control schools, why not churches?
**'Romney Maintained Massachusetts Contraception Requirement That Mirrors Obamas Rule' - By Igor Volsky - Think Progress - 02/07/12
'In 2002 the very same year Romney campaigned for governor of Massachusetts the state enacted a contraceptive equity law that REQUIRED insurers that provide outpatient benefits to cover hormone replacement therapy and ALL FDA-approved contraceptive methods.' article
I don't under stand the up roar about this. 99% sexually active women interviewed by the CDC between 2006-2008 have used birth control in their lives and 63 percent currently used some form of birth control. Who is so angry about this?
Because Obama is up for re-election this year he is changing this law. But just wait - if he gets a second term all heck will break loose.
Political Pandering by President Obama!?
Fliiiiiiiip Flooooooop!
28 states already had the original plan in place, some Catholic universities already offer contraceptin coverage, and 52% of Catholics supported the original plan (vs about 40% opposed since some were undecided). Nevertheless, Obama is the adult in the room and while everyone else was parading outrage to cameras he got a solution reached.
I would be so ticked if I voted for Obama. He proposed this huge agenda and made gigantic promises...
and has flaked and folded on almost all of them when it threatened his re-electability.
Why on earth would we want someone like this in the white house?
@CottageCheese
It's not a flipflop if he still got what he wanted, just in a way that is more agreeable to the opposition. Flipping would be completely scrapping the plan and opposing it. Flopping would be then going back to supporting it.
As for his huge agenda and folding on parts of it... that's largely because we have a legislature and getting things through them is oftentimes the hard part. Whhy would I want someone like him in the white house? Because the economy is getting better (23 straight months of job growth), wars are winding down (no Yemen and Libya are not comparable to Iraq/Afghanistan, we hadn't even deployed any troops or lost any in those two), and I think the Republicans plans are more of the same garbage that got us into this economic mess to begin with.
'I would be so ticked if I voted for Obama. He proposed this huge agenda and made gigantic promises...
and has flaked and folded on almost all of them when it threatened his re-electability.' - CottageCheese | 9:38 a.m. Feb. 10, 2012
Promise:
*'Obama HRC Speech: "I Will End Don't Ask, Don't Tell," Says President Obama' - By CHRISTINE SIMMONS - Huffington Post - 10/10/09
Delivery:
*'Obama signs 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal' - By Pauline Jelinek - AP - Published by DSnews - 12/22/10
Promise:
*'Obama to pull combat troops from Iraq by August 2010' - CNN - 02/26/09
Delivery:
*'Last U.S. combat brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/19/10
Bonus:
**'Obama marks Iraq wars end with salute to troops' - by Erica Werner - AP - Published by DSNews - 12/14/11
**'Osama bin Laden Killed: 'Justice Is Done,' President Says' - By DEAN SCHABNER - ABC News - 05/01/2011
So, CC are you saying you would rather have access to birth control instead of...
the death of Osama Bin Laden, 14,000 more troops in the military, and the end of the war in Iraq?
Churches who receive one dollar from the US government for schools and hospitals should know there are strings attached; churches should not depend on the government for money and then complain about the mixing of doctrine and the state.
The worst thing Obama could do is cave to the Christaban...
This is how the system should work. It should be flexible enough for compromises to be made.
"We believe the compliance mechanism does not compromise a woman's ability to access these critical birth control benefits"
Why is this a 'woman' only issue? Should all birth control be available free? Is that not a couple's decision on not left up to the woman only?
Okay. For those of you who can't wrap your head around why churches are so angry about this, here it is: Whether you believe contraception is a health issue or not, having the federal government MANDATE that a church has to provide coverage for contraception is an infringment of the bill of rights. The government has no right to mandate this on the churches.
If Obama gets a second term, I think even a lot of his most ardent supporters will be stunned by the power grabs that will take place. With no worry about re-election, this guy is going to go crazy on the Constitution.
I think a woman should have the right to choose if she will get an abortion or not. That's her decision and she will be responsible for the eternal consequences.
But having the RIGHT to choose is not the issue here. That's already been decided in the courts (Row V Wade). The issue here is who PAYS for your abortion.
A woman has the right to choose to have an abortion, but that choice should cary some responsibility (like paying for it or carrying insurance that will pay for it). Religious institutions where abortion is strictly against their beliefs should NOT be forced to pay for abortions. I should not be forced to pay for abortions (where I think the practice of abortion as abhorant and against everything Christ taught). I have no problem with insurance companies paying for abortions (that's THEIR decision). But I do have a problem with the government FORCING people to not follow their religious beliefs... and provide/pay for abortions. That was already made law by Congress BTW (that tax payers don't have to fund abortions). Look it up. There are already laws that prevent the Fed government from funding abortions with tax dollars (because it's against so many American's religious beliefs).
If the American people feel so strongly about this that it's against the law for the Federal Government to fund abortions... the Federal Government should not be able to FORCE the people and institutions of faith that abhore abortions to pay for them.
If you want an abortion... go get it. But DON'T force me or religious institutions to pay for it against our religious beliefs.
Article--"instead will demand that insurance companies will be the ones directly responsible for providing free contraception."
This seems like a back-down on the President's part but basically the institutions providing their employees with insurance will still be the ones made to pay, Catholic or otherwise, as there is no way the insurance companies will absorb the cost. They will pass the cost on in some way.
So very many of you people are missing the most important point here! Who does Obama think he is? Who gave him the power to force Americans to buy anything? This has nothing to do with women's health, its about your freedom! If Obama has no consitutional authority whatseever to force insurance companies or anyone else to buy ANYTHING! This is how dictators get power, increntally claiming is for our own good. Our grand parent would never have put up with this and neither should we!
Re: "Obama revamping birth control policy"
Yeah -- to make it worse!
Just for the record -- there's no such thing as free birth control or abortion pills. Someone has to pay for them, and it won't be the insurance companies.
It'll be you and me and everyone who buys insurance -- including the Catholic Church and others whose beliefs are violated thereby.
As usual, what is touted by socialist secularists as a generous offer to "compromise" is actually a disingenuous, insulting, my-way-or-the-highway assault on religion and decency.
A1994
"The government has no right to mandate this on the churches."
Churches are exempt from the healthcare mandate, but not all religiously affiliated institutions are exempt.
Furthermore, there's no constitutional mandate that churches be tax exempt or not be required to make financial reports public either.
A1994, I think you have the part about Obamas power for the second term, but then he might throw out the Constitution and declare him and his cronies president for life. How is that for scary.
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