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Published: Thursday, Feb. 9 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

I believe that the 10% ethanol in fuel makes it slightly better at keeping water from separating from the fuel. So it may actually help in humid conditions. This is the case at higher ethanol levels.

The problem with ethanol is that rich first world people with SUVs are outbidding people in the 3rd world countries who are struggling to feed their kids. When the people with the SUV win, they go to the pizza parlor on their corn-based ethanol. When the people with the hungry kids win, they feed the corn to their kids.

Several years ago when the price of gasoline spiked, the price of food in places like Nepal and Haiti doubled. This is because demand for food increased in first world countries because of the use of ethanol. European countries have banned the manufacture of ethanol from food sources. It is a nice gesture but it accomplishes nothing. Farmers don't grow corn on their acreage, they grow a non-food source on their land.

What is needed is a starch plant that does not grow on farmland so it won't displace corn. If not get some real liberals in government who understand economics rather than these PC folks who turn whichever the political winds blow.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Letter writer is probably right. How would we make this change? Is this why gas prices seem lower?

Sensible Scientist
Rexburg, ID

I have measured my vehicles' MPG regularly for more than 25 years, and can affirm that 10% ethanol results in a 10% drop in MPG for all of my older vehicles. In my new Mazda, however, the difference is much smaller.

10% ethanol makes gasoline more expensive because ethanol is more expensive.

It's time to stop the ethanol tomfoolery.

LDS Tree-Hugger
Farmington, UT

I will try a 3rd! time....

Internal combustion engines are only 15% efficient.
85% of the energy is wasted heat energy.

Besides -
Ethanol not only drains a food source, but is heavily subsidized.
We pay more for a lesser quality fuel,
We pay more for foods,
and finally we pay again in taxes to subsidize the market for it.

The purest form of energy is the SUN [Solar, Wind, Hydro]
It's FREE and is distributed equally to all mankind.
We should use the best energy source given to us.

ugottabkidn
Sandy, UT

This seems like a good argument to seek alternatives. We subsidize the oil companies, the farmers, businesses left and right and we wonder why gas is approaching $4 a gallon. This doesn't even address the fact that fossil fuels have contributed mightly to health problems.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

As a consumer, you have little to no effect on what goes into the fuel for your vehicle or the price you pay for it.

The energy monopolies control every aspect of transportation and therefore the price of almost every thing we buy. The promote their product by the design of our cities, retarding public transportation, and just about anything else that would reduce the need for their product.

PeanutGallery
Salt Lake City, UT

Good letter. I agree. The ethanol mandate is a bad idea all around, and should be gotten rid of as soon as possible.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "LDS Tree-Hugger" while I agree that ethanol is bad because it uses food, and has a lower energy content than gasoline, I disagree that every person on earth can harvest the sun equally.

The people around the equator get roughly the same amount of sunshine every day. The closer you get to the poles, the more you have significant variations in the amount of daylight available to collect energy. Imagine you are in northern Alaska, and have 4 hours of daylight during the winter. Are you going to be able to stay warm if you have so few hours to collect energy?

Sensible Scientist
Rexburg, ID

Photovoltaic energy is inefficient when you quantify area per watt generated. To power all of Salt Lake, for example, almost everything in the valley would have to be covered with solar panels. The cost would be tens of billions of dollars. It is simply impractical at any large scale. Salt Lake does not have enough annual sunshine to make solar power economical.

Solar power cannot be used for transportation -- cars, trucks, semis, and trains. So it makes no sense to bring it up here.

LDS Tree-Hugger
Farmington, UT

@RedShirt | 1:39 p.m. Feb. 9, 2012
USS Enterprise, UT

Sorry about your reading problem -
I'll repeat it for you:

The purest form of energy is the SUN [Solar, WIND, HYDRO]

Wind and Hydro derive all their energy as a result of the SUN.
No Sun, No Wind, No rain.

And if you want to get even more persnikity ---
Trees, animals and even fossil fuels all derived their energy from the sun.
Come to think of it -- even nuclear fuels were derived from 1 or 2 generation Stars.

FYI - I've been to Northern Alaska, the wind blows there constantly.

You failed, but thanks for playing anyway.

UtahBy44
Beaver, UT

@jarka-rus

"you know what's a total sham? A #110 ranked offense and claiming you are some powerhouse Pac team. Now that is hype."

Hummmm, #110 offense ?

54-10 ?

Need anything more be said?

Hang in there Band of Lil Brothers

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

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We are very much aware what the Koch Brother's do with their federal government law makers and the petroleum companies that are making you use a fuel mix in your car, boat and lawn equipment that is not fuel efficient or good for your equipment. Plus we do know what ethanol fuel is. Since midsummer, the switch was made to add ethanol to the fuel mix. It is a 90 percent gas blend with 10 percent ethanol (corn alcohol) fuel. Now the Koch Brother's are talking about adding another 15 percent more to the old mixture. It's a rich game with them. That's called K Street and Wall Street Corporate sneakiness, outright-scams and con-games, Koch Brother's and ReaganBushClintonBush-villes economics, deregulated for kickbacks for the Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist, in their "Field Of Dreams," (of corn and sugar cane), with more corruption, and "crony capitalism" game of survivor. But we KEEP voting back into Office these bought-off GOP Congressmen that has their hands deep in the pockets of the Koch Brother's, why?. I guess us GOP consumers like being forced to use this garbage fuel and live with all the damage and problems.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Maybe if we pay more...

Bebyebe
UUU, UT

The welfare farmers need their subsidies.

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