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Published: Saturday, Feb. 4 2012 7:09 p.m. MST

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Honor Code
Denver, Colorado

Why would a recruit want to play for BYU knowing that they play WAC teams at least 7-8 times a year??? Next you'll be telling me it's because of the BYU channel! Geesh!

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

When opposing coaches complain about the age and maturity of BYU players, I wonder if they know how tough it is to field a competitive team with all the turnover. I'm pretty sure that Mormon players on other teams get pressure to not go on a mission.

I'm kind of amazed at BYU consistency. Kudos to Bronco for managing the pipeline. Must be really tough. It's not like the guys come back from missions in football shape.

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

"DuPaix, a rookie recruiting coordinator" Didn't he hold the same position at Navy? If so, perhaps a clarification of "rookie recruiting coordinator" at BYU. Regardless, let's hope the recruiting class does well. Obviously, only time will tell.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

What exactly is the byu brand? It seems odd to label it as something you can brand beyond selling tickets to watch it.

Pipes
Salt Lake City, UT

Honor Code
If we have to explain it, you wouldn't understand.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Well said Pipes. No one is so blind as those who refuse to see,

Cougarista
Salt Lake City, UT

Nice article, Dick. If you've visited there (and you qualify academically), it's an easy choice.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Why would a recruit want to play for BYU knowing that they play WAC teams at least 7-8 times a year??? Next you'll be telling me it's because of the BYU channel! Geesh!"

You will learn faster and better if you did the work rather than having us feed you the answers all the time. Your homework: Look up BYU's 2013, 2014, 2015, and later schedules and count the number of WAC teams each year. After doing that, come back and tell us what you found. I think you'll learn something.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Awesome insights. It is astounding to read that many players leave each year and yet BYU continues to win and be very competitive. Here's what's even more astouding, more and more students outside of Provo are discovering what BYU is all about and it fits their lifestyle too, no matter what religion they embrace.

Bronco is stirring the waters and the fan base loves it!!

Pugman
TREMONTON, UT

So many things come into play for these recruits. Most of these kids come from good homes were wonderful attributes and core values and principles are taught. Just like many of the misconceptions about the church, these misconceptions are also questioned when it comes to the football program and it's mission. It's not about conference affliation, who you play, or where your ranked. It has a lot to do with honor, personal integrity, being part of a team and accepting responsibility for ones self as well as your actions. In an ever changing and screwed up world we live in, it's refreshing to find these types of indiviuals. Does BYU have it's weaknesses....I guess it depends on who you ask. Oh wait, the studentbody once in a while goes off the deep end and throws things on the gym floor. Of course the trolls will always remind you of that, I guess because it's only one of the few things that have been unbecoming of BYU. Young people now days want their cake and eat it to. It's a sense of entitlemnt....I'm owed this. You're not owed anything. BYU's mission is simple. You work hard, act responsibly, take ownwership, and have faith in your core beliefs, and it dosen't matter whether you're a rookie recruiter or not...kids will come. Leave it to others to tote the brand of..."come to our school and get a sense of what college life is all about". BYU's brand has and will will stand the test of time. Because in the end we're talking about life and all the ups and downs that go with it. It's great to understand how you fit into the big picture, and more important...your role and responsibilities.

jarka-rus
Layton, Utah

No honor code

Why would a recruit wanna play for an annual bottom feeder Pac team that loses at home to a 2 win team?
Oh yeah it must be the 40,000 seat stadium and scary blackout jerseys.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

jarka-rus:

"Why would a recruit wanna play for an annual bottom feeder Pac team that loses at home to a 2 win team?"

What a classic cougar frantic and emotional thing to infer about your Big Brother who pounded you 54-10 on your own HOME field! How could we be an "annual bottom feeder" when (1) we've only played ONE season, and (2) didn't even finish at the bottom?

If you were to graph the Utes' historical year-end ranking in league play as members of the Pac-12, it would look like a "dot". Of course, if you WERE to do that, that would imply you'd have done Math. And it's obvious by your bitter conclusion that Math isn't your strong suit. So allow me to interpret the data for you -- No trend line can be established! At the very LEAST, you're going to need 2 data points to draw a line and follow its direction.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Riverton Cougar:

I looked at those schedules for 2013-15, and of 36 games, 3 were from the WAC, and another 16 [44.4%] were listed as "TBA". And we've all seen what the "TBA" precendent had brought about: WAC and FCS fillers.

And for the record, of the 20 game you DO have scheduled, 8 are mid-majors, and another 6 are Big East teams, who until last month would have also been mid-majors. And you scheduled them while they were mid-majors. And why is that relevant?

Well, for ONE, it showed that your much self-promoted "national brand" does not seem to be attracting BCS level teams. Had BSU, Houston, and UCF been invited to the Big East prior to inking deals with you, they might not have been interested in playing you.

And TWO, once they get their Big East slate scheduled, they may have to drop some future games from their new O.O.C. schedule. Especially if they move to a 9-game league slate like the Pac-12, B1G, ACC, and Big XII. You might get bumped, and if you are, it's back to crawling back to the WAC for you.

Target
Provo, Utah

Naval Vet

BYU is enough of a "national brand" to keep a Philly boy like you coming back on a daily basis for more tidbits. How many hours do you dedicate each year to reading, thinking and commenting on BYU? You're endless comments proves Riverton's point.

WON84
PLANO, TX

Thanks for continuing to recognize the brand as BYU starts the early stages of Independence, Naval and Honor.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

WON84:

You're welcome. I've been recognizing the cougars' "brand" as the "perfection questing", no-BCS-bowling, national laughingstock that no AQ conference wanted, parading around with their chests puffed out after beating a bunch of nobodies from the WAC -- as though that were some validation of their mid-majorey program -- for over 2 decades now.

I've also taken note of your "bowl game" brand. And that would be the bowl game that nobody has been watching.

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