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'Mormon voters a key in Nevada they're for Romney' - title
So, Mormon voters...
will vote for a Mormon Presidental canidate, Mitt Romney.
But it's 'not' about, religion.
This claim is disproven as, less than one year ago:
**'Trump on Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11
Those very same persons who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President'...
were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim...
when it wasn't even, true.
**'Obamas to attend church for Easter Sunday' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 04/11/09
**'Obama, family attend Christmas church services By Julie Pace AP Pulibshed by DSNews 12/25/11
I have to admit as a mormon voter seeing a mormon on the ballot is a huge draw for me, if only for the fact that it makes so many people who are religiously intollerant so darn uncomfortable. :)
"church voters who are taught to oppose abortion and gay marriage."
This quote from the article is not true at all. Members are taught the value of life and that it is sacred. They are taught marriage is also a sacred ceremony instituted by God Himself (see the Garden of Eden). Understanding those teaching leads to opposing abortions of convenience and same gender marriage.
No religion has a base of it's members who question, study, and teach the scriptures more than the LDS faith. When Mormons oppose abortion, they are thinking about literal children of God coming to earth. When discussing marriage they are thinking of a family unit as the foundation of a happy life and being ordained of God as the only proper and noble way to bring God's children to earth.
@Pagan
"Those very same persons who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President'...
were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim..."
What evidence backs up this claim? Once again you paint an entire group with a broad generalization, condemning an entire group for the actions of a few individuals. Will you please show me a poll that shows Mormon voters who support Romney were the ones who foolishly believed that Obama is a Muslim? I doubt such a poll even exists. Or does one individual, Donald Trump, represent all supporters of Mitt Romney now? You're good at partisan politics and talking points, but I would like to see you demonstrate some consistency on principles, instead of always resorting to, "well, the Republicans are worse."
From Pagan's message I guess that he goes to church 2 times a year if needed or not or if it gets him votes.
Romney has certainly landed in the right place. Good for him! He's right back in the home of the big spenders!
The problem (ok, one of the problems) with Mormons in Nevada is that they really don't know what they want. The vote for Harry Reid, simply because he IS a Mormon. When I have asked members of the LDS church in Las Vegas if they would have voted for Ted Kennedy, they say no--he is far too liberal for them. When I tell them that Ted and Harry had the same voting record, they really don't know what to say.
If Mitt Romney wins in Nevada, it won't be because of the Mormons there, it will be because he is the very best candidate for President. New Hampshire and Florida voted for Mitt, and it had nothing to do with the Mormon population.
'Will you please show me a poll that shows Mormon voters who support Romney were the ones who foolishly believed that Obama is a Muslim? I doubt such a poll even exists.' - David King | 1:43 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012
2 points:
1) How can I find the poll that you, yourself acknowledge does not exist.
2) I didn't actually SAY that Mormons were the ones who thought Obama was Mulsim.
Again, the quote was:
'Those very same PERSONS who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President', were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim...' - Pagan | 12:55 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012
I DID say Mormons were going to vote for a Mormon Presidental canidate, which the title supports.
But not WHO, thought Obama was Muslim.
David King | 1:43 p.m.,
You injected the claim of, Mormonism into this statement.
While claiming I was being to broad with my generalizations.
"Those very same persons who defend Romney due to 'there is no religious requirement for President'...
were the ones criticizing Obama for being Muslim..."
Unsupported
As a Mormon, I couldn't care less about a candidate's religion. Romney is the most qualified for the office, Mormon or not.
By the way, did anyone else notice the picture associated with this article? The one in the warehouse. Isn't there where they put the crate with the Lost Ark of the Covenant at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
I like Mormons and Mitt Romney.
Mormons understand Romney because they've been in similar church callings and understand what it takes. So, they relate.
If Newt, Paul and RS wish to court the Mormon vote, it is there for the taking. Just repudiate the Evangelicals in South Carolina who trash Mormons. Call them out as bigots and narrow minded people. That what religion you are should have NO PLACE in American politics but rather the content of the character the religion helps to produce. Argue about that, but demand Evangelicals wise up and start treating people as Christians ought to treat everyone.
If they'll do that Mormons will gladly look at them with fond admiration, examine what Newt, Paul and Santorum stand for. And they're all better than Obama.
I don't see any other possible result than Romney winning big in Nevada. There might be some anti-Mormons out there but the LDS presence is huge and the business interests of the state are also huge. Also, Newt did a lot of business with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and I can't see that helping him when about every other house in Vegas is in foreclosure...
Pagan | 2:07 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012
I guess what we have here is a misunderstanding. Your original post mentions three groups:
(1)Mormons who vote for Mitt Romney
(2)those who believe Mitt Romney's religion should not disqualify him for office
(3)those who believe (mistakenly) that Obama is a Muslim
Your post (in my point of view, which obviously could be wrong), does not differentiate between these groups, sliding from one to the next as if they were all composed of exactly the same people. That is why I consider it a broad generalization. Yes, there are some Mormons who are hypocritical when it comes to religion and politics. But does everyone in the first group you mentioned belong to the second group, and is there evidence that those who belong in the second group are also part of the third?
I apologize for the harshness of my first post and hope this clears up any confusion.
Mormons blindly supporting Romney simply because he is Mormon,
are as ignorantly biased and bigoted as African-Americans voting for Obama simply because he's black.
'I apologize for the harshness of my first post and hope this clears up any confusion.' - David King | 3:25 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012
It is an easy thing to get confused.
But I do TRY, not to over generalize. Like with any other group, there are good and bad.
The point I try to make, is the double standard to claim you should NOT vote against someone because of their religion, whatever it is...
and then vote FOR someone, because of their religion:
'I don't see any other possible result than Romney winning big in Nevada. There might be some anti-Mormons out there but the LDS presence is huge...' - Howard Beal | 3:22 p.m. Feb. 2, 2012
Supported, by this very aritlce.
Go Mitt! Go Ann! The more I see of Ann, the better I like her. What a great First Lady she would make.
Being Baptist myself, I do not like Pagan's.
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