I get a chuckle out of all the fans who claim byu is the big brother. But, if
they stop to think of how things were from the very beginning, it soon becomes
clear who is following who in this situation.Brigham Young founded
both schools. The U of U was founded in 1850, then 25 years later, he decided
the U needed a little brother, so in 1875 byu came along. As you can
see, clearly, the y has been trying to catch up ever since.
@ Quackhunter"utah's norm chow lead offense was practically the
worst offense in the entire country last season, which is exactly what BYU fans
predicted. This is indisputable fact".Norm Chow's "worst
offense" still up 54 points on your sorry kitten's defense. Half way
through the third quarter BYU's fans took the walk of shame to the exits with
their tail between their legs.
@Howard S.: "In fact, the (kitten) Nation's new found appreciation for
Colorado defines what being a little brother is all about... finding someone
else to fight your battles for you."Classic!! Go
@aresutah's norm chow lead offense was practically the worst offense
in the entire country last season, which is exactly what BYU fans predicted.
This is indisputable fact.LOL!
My mighty Trojans are worried now. This postpones a PAC 12 south title by 5
years. Hope all the Utah fans stop worrying about Byu and start worrying about
winning in conference.
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls if off. By this time next year we'll be
giving him his lifetime achievement award.
Atta boy Howie.Sammyg, I could have sworn I have seen you on the BYU
boards touting your shpeel on "Utah trolls on BYU boards"...Little brother syndrome?Take your own advice before you give it to
someone. Remember how you thought Chow was "washed up" before he put a
smack down on your Cougies 54-10?I do too. It was great.
So much for the downhill running game with John White IV and Kevin York. That
goes away when Johnson wants to spread things out. I don't like that.White IV was dominant last year. This despite eight men stacking the box most
of the time. Think how successful White IV could he be if Utah gained a passing
game to keep the defense more unbalanced?Spreading things out
requires an athletic QB. What, is Utah going to start a true freshman at QB like
Chase Hansen or Travis Wilson? Please no! We already have a freshman like
offensive coordinator. What's next in this extreme youth movement?
One of my favorite parts about this coaching staff is Sharrieff Shah. His energy
should be a big time boost for recruiting. It's impossible to talk to the guy
and not come away with a smile on your face.
howieBig Brother BYU's Top 25 finish > little brother Utah's
fluke win over BYUGet used to being a little fish in a big pond
@sammyg"So a Ute season is always measured against
BYU?"************ Are stats about Brian Johnson's record
against BYU relevant when responding to those of the Cougar Nation who ridicule
his hiring... I think so.Would Cougar fans rather talk about Utah v.
Colorado than Utah v. BYU... I think so. The Cougar Nation seems to
have adopted an interest in Utah's new rival because they did what Utah's old
rival couldn't come close to doing.In fact, the Nation's new found
appreciation for Colorado defines what being a little brother is all about...
finding someone else to fight your battles for you.
sammygSo a Ute season is always measured against BYU?-----------Um, last time I checked we weren't the ones printing
"Quest" t-shirts for what Utah has done TWICE.I can't say
I'm happy about the move, I'm not sure if he's ready to lead a PAC-12 offense.
Regardless, as a Ute I endorse this promotion.Good luck BJ!!
little howieSo a Ute season is always measured against BYU? I
thought U guys had BYU in the rearview mirror, moved on, and so forth.What does that measuring stick show when you use it in the PAC 10.2 and what's
that record against Colorado, your new true rival? Are these not the
stats that are really relevant to the Ute program today?
@Snack PAC"Brian Johnson coached quarterbacks are winless
against 10-loss teams."***************Quarterbacks?
Plural?Actually only one Brian Johnson coached QB has ever lost to a
10 loss team.But let's not let niggling little facts get in the way
of BYU hyperbole...Here are a couple of indisputable facts...- Brian Johnson coached quarterbacks have a combined record of 18 and
8.- As a player and a coach Brian Johnson has a personal record of 5
and 1 against BYU.Yup... Brian Johnson knows a thing or two about
Wow! This just might be a good hire on KW's part. Or it could very quickly
become the biggest mistake of his career and set the team back for multiple
years to come. One thing is for sure, we will start finding out in just over six
months. Hold on to your hats because this might be a wild ride.
@bigutefanThat was the most muddled bunch of nonsensical
rationalization in the history of this site.LOL!
Brian Johnson is going to be great. He has always been a winner, that is all he
knows how to do. I find it funny that many posters think that Gary Crowton was
the star attraction of the applicants. He was just the only one that went to the
press to say he applied. That does not mean he was the big name. Yes, it is a
risk hiring Brian who is young, but Whitt knows what he is doing and I
absolutely support his decisions. Comparing Brian to Doman is also ridiculous.
Brian had the skills to take the Utes to an undefeated season, a bashing of BCS
power Alabama in a BCS bowl game, and a final #2 ranking. He has big time
experience. He also spent the past year with Norm Chow, I certainly don't think
the Chow play book is just going to be thrown out the window. Imagine a recruit
getting visited by BJ, Sharieff, and Scalley. Utah may have the coolest bunch of
recruiters in the nation, and yes I know the three of them are not big famous
names, but they are all great people. Teams new what Norm was going to run last
year, Utah will have new plays to confuse opponents. Yes some good offensive
hires were made in Leach and Rich Rod, but c'mon, they were all fired, and the
coaches will all know what to expect. Expect the unexpected with the Utes. Bravo
Surprised that this is the best they could find in a nationwide search. But
good luck. I do like it when the local talent - former students - get the job
over ourside talent.
VegasUteSpeak for yourself about delusional. BYU fans may be haters,
but they're hardly jealous of the Utes taking a flyer on a 24yo kid with
absolutely no OC experience. Add to that serious questions at QB and the Utes
are setting themselves up for an epic offensive meltdown.What on
earth is Kyle thinking?
Oh hand me the dramamine please, this is one spin ride from the moment it was
announced. buuuuuuuickA few rational comments from the Ute faithful
but the spin from those that were lambasting Doman's promotion last year is so
predictable, so hypocritical and so Ute. This has the makings of a
trainwreck. Please tell me how a Norm Chow, everything is wonderful offense, can
improve with this???How can the Utes improve on a mediocre season, a
lousy conference record, with a 24 yr old OC?The ute arm chair OCs
are going to have a heyday with this. Can't wait for camp to start and then more
on this.This statement was approved by 'sammyg'
I am a Utah fan and I am not happy with this hire, but I'm sure Coach Whit knows
what he's doing. I do know as soon as we start losing Coach BJ is going to get
torched, Ute Fans are going to go nuts. I thought when you go to a better
conference you get better coaches. I sure hope I'm wrong. The other
problem I have with this is the timing of this announcement, did the kids that
signed yesterday know who the O.C. was or did the U wait until these kids
signed to make sure they got who they wanted, if I am a QB I ask myself if I
want to go to a PAC 12 program that has an OC that has not even called a game at
any level, the OC has bee with the program since he was 18. My fear as a UTE,
Chase Hansen goes on a mission now and then decides to transfer.
Good luck Brian. If anyone deserves a shot it is you. Glad to see
the hire has riled up the jealous blew who fill all their postings with witty
words like "braindead" and "hypocrisy" and
"delusional" then laugh at themselves. They really don't understand
that no one else is laughing with them, we are laughing AT them.Very
nice, and CLASSY!!What a great time to be a UTE!!
Kyle was so impressed with what Colorado did to him last season, that's he's
building an offense to emulate that 10-loss ineptitude.
Getting dizzy from all of the spin.Why would a supposed major league
team pull such a bush league stunt???Hiring a kid younger than some
of their players to be their OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR smacks of desperation.No wonder Kyle kept this under wraps until after signing day.
Howard S.Brian Johnson coached quarterbacks are winless against
Wow. Someone with even LESS experience than Brandon Doman. Good luck with
bwahahahaAfter all the talk about having enough money to hire any
coach they wanted, the best Utah can do is a 24-year old kid with only two years
of coaching and zero OC experience.An injury prone starting QB
backed up by a DII transfer with a 24-year old calling plays - and U really
expect to compete in the PAC 12?Good luck with that.
Just Gordon you nailed that one. Poor Ducky, his whole life is spent obsessing
about how Utah has beat up on his team over and over again the last ten years
and is how Utah is now a member of major BCS league while his team is the newest
common law member of the WAC.
Those who are predicting pathetic losses in Colorado in November will most
probably have to be kicked awake more than several times if they spend any time
at the LES in late October and November watching mediocre whip up on pathetic
with all the exposure necessary to seal another blah recruiting class where the
number of returning missionaries is the big news. This will be
version 2.0 of Fantasy meeting Reality and still with no AQ conference insight.
wow.. no experience at all! i dont know kyle, really risky.best of luck to johnson coming from a Y fan!
I can only smile at the skeptical who think that no one really wanted the job at
Utah and that Coach Whitt was "stuck" giving it to BJ! How absurdly
ridiculous their suppositions are only to then come to a conclusion that is
Much harassment went to BYU's Bronco Mendenhall for hiring Brandon Doman as OC
from U fans and I took it in stride and now the shoe is on the other foot not
even a year later. No doubt Brandon had some issues and struggled some but
seemed to be just fine in his first year. Quite honestly I think the issues were
more with Jake Heaps than Doman. As a BYU fan I see this as a bold
move for Kyle Whittingham, much bolder in fact than Brandon Doman but I have
also seen Utah excel under KW. I like this bold bold move and I truly hope it
works out as I really like Brian Johnson too. I'm a passionate BYU
fan and have been embarrassed by some of my comments and wish I could take them
back but I can't. I hate, hate , hate to loose to Utah and in a crazy way I'm
glad Utah is in the Pac12 and BYU is Independent. I see it settling me down and
the enmity is beginning to fade.Good Luck Mr. Johnson!
Since he has done such an excellent job with Wynn and Hays this was clearly the
best choice. But seriously, I'm assuming he will work out his own system very
much the way he played-nothing fancy, just make the right reads, short passes,
somewhat mobile if pocket moves and get first downs. In that case it might be
time to focus on a new QB (Hanson) to get started with the new system. Wynn is
not good and another season of him saying he is injury free when he has good
games and is all of the sudden having shoulder problems after bad ones is not
what we need.
@DuckhunterBrian Johnson coached quarterbacks are undefeated against
your Cougars.Love that?
"How can you coach the QBs and be in the booth?"In answer
to the above question, the best time to coach and train a quarterback is before
the game starts and during practices. If there is something vital that BJ needs
to tell Utah's QB during a game, he can get it done.The idea that
Brian needs to be on the field holding his QB's hand is wrong. In my opinion,
it's far more important for BJ to be in the Skybox, during a game, watching the
opponents moves so he can call the plays.
What's up with all of the Utah fans bashing the BYU fans about a whooping next
fall? Who cares if Utah beats BYU next fall. What Utah should be worrying about
is how they're going to fare in the PAC-12 south next year? There are alot of
great offensive minded coaches in the PAC-12, and Brian Johnson isn't one of
them. Not saying he couldn't be, but Utah really needed to go out and hire an
experienced offensive coordinator to lead the offense this year. The defense can
only carry the team so far, as seen by this years results. The offense must find
production, and I don't see alot of changes from this year to next. Wynn will be
out again with a shoulder injury, because he's just not that tough, and then
what? At least this past year, you have an experienced OC that knew how to
readjust an offense on the fly. Norm was great at doing that. BJ lacks the
experience to get it done. The Utes won't score enough points to beat USC, and
they will struggle to score the necessary points to beat Arizona. They're both
in the PAC-12 south. Looks like another Sun Bowl for the Utes. They would've
been better off with Gary Crowton, and I don't even like the guy. Go Trojans.
PAC-12 champions next year, and maybe 'National' champions.
I am surprised that someone as young and inexperienced as Brian Johnson will be
given the OC job.Don't get me wrong - I loved him as a player, and I
know that he is very intelligent and mature. But he is still 24.The
2012 team has a lot of quality on its roster. I hope BJ can grow quickly into a
very challenging position in a very competitive conference.
I like it. Johnson is a special kind of person. Remember that when he was 18, a
sophomore QB, he was in the top 5 in the nation in total offense per game, and
was named MWC offensive player of the year in 2008. After that, he was named QB
coach of a nationally ranked FBS team at the age of 22. This kid is poised for a
meteoric rise through the ranks. The nice thing is that he can become a tenured
coach for the Utes and stick around as OC for a while, because the odds of a
team hiring him as a head coach at such a young age are slim to none. I like it
Oh this is simply awesome stuff. I couldn't have scripted anything better. Love
the braindead hire. Love the hypocritical utah "fan" comments. Love
the obvious undercurrent of utter terror from those hypocritical utah
"fans". Love it, love it, love it!
jarka-rus,And we will see how quiet you Cougies are when you get
another whoopin at RES (against your RIVAL) for the last time in history.Goes both ways, dude. Smack talk all you want.
motorbikeAnd we'll see how quiet you utes are when he leads another
pathetic loss in Boulder next season.
I don't see Coach Whitt as the type of person who would "gamble" on
BJ.Our Head Coach has the time in the saddle to know his troops
& how to manage them.IF Coach Whitt was a Riverboat Gambler ---
I'd say he's All In. He knows the situation, knows his cards, and
certainly doesn't have the profile to be a kamikaze kinda guy. That
said, I'm All In with Coach Whitt & Coach Johnson. Gutsy Big Time Move you
have to admire, this is going to be one heckuva big Utah year!!Is it
September yet?????? :)
One thing I love about this hire is it gives us Utah fans just one more thing to
look back and laugh about. We'll see how many of these Cougar fans - the
regulars in this thread - show up on the articles after Johnson guides the next
beat down this Sept 15th.I suspect coug fans will be eerily quiet for
about a week following the game just as it was last season.
It appears that Kyle has his loyal staff in place. I love that the program is
filled with Utah legends. It is good for the program. Kyle is young enough that
he'll be with Utah for a long time. Having a young staff that can be groomed is
essential for future growth. Utah's next head coach is probably on the staff
right now. I am surprised by the hiring of BJ at such a young age
but I've seen Brian pull out some masterful performance in the clutch against
TCU, Alabama, BYU, Oregon State, etc. Under pressure, Brian is money. No panic
in this guy. Brian was calling most of the plays on the last minute drives and
although he wasn't the most talented qb ever at Utah, he was probably the
smartest. Brian is also out of Texas and will be able to recruit from his
heartland. Brian is part of our community and deserves the shot.
Two things stand out about Brian Johnson: his intelligence and work ethic. I
will never forget the last two games of the 2008 season, and the way Brian
Johnson ran the offense. He picked BYU's defense apart, and it was because he
had done his homework and knew BYU's weaknesses. When it came to the Sugar Bowl,
he called the plays from the field, running a no-huddle offense that Alabama had
no answer for. In my opinion,he is one of the smartest quarterbacks ever to
play in Utah, on any team. He will bring those same strengths to his new
position as OC. We wish him the best!!!
Shah in as DB coach?I like it!GO UTES!!!
"After spending the past month conducting a national search for an
offensive coordinator, it became very apparent that we had the best candidate
for the job right here on our own staff," Hey Naval Vet? You
buying this stuff your HC is preaching to his disciples? The entire nation
didn't have anyone that could lead his team over a 24 yr. old with absolutely no
experience? Let's poll every college football coaching staff and see
how many have an OC in their early 20's with zero experience.
Not terribly excited about the hire. There has to be an OC out there that is
more qualified. This could be the beginning of the end.
Is it just me, or is this the wierdest reshuffling of coaching assignments ever
seen in football? If Johnson is going to be the offensive coordinator and QB
coach, is he going to be on the field like Doman was last year? Who is calling
the plays? How can you coach the QBs and be in the booth? Freshman QB starting
the spread next year? Roderick is now a passing coordinator? What does that
mean? We have two offensive coordinators? That didn't work to well last time.
Sitake is assistant head coach? Whatever. Tim Davis is still the offensive line
coach but only coaches the TEs and Tackles. The new guy coaches the Centers and
Guards? Is this simplifying a spread assignment system or complicating it. Hill
is now the RB coach, but still special teams coach. Hill is going to be
overseeing ball security? Scary. What offense is Utah running? I like Shah as
the cornerbacks coach, but where is Scalley? No mention of him here.
Duckhunter,Great job. Because when you didn't endorse Norm Chow he
put a whoopin on your Cougies 54-10.Lesson to be learned? NEVER
smack talk an OC that hasn't been tested against your team.Nice job
Duckie. High five.
I do think it was a good choice. However, a program like Utah should have been
able to hire an experienced OC. There will be growing pains for Johnson just
like we saw at BYU with Doman. The growing pains may be more severe with
Johnson because of his lack of experience. In time, Johnson should be a very
good OC but probably not the first season.
BJ: The lesser of two evils.
I can't say I wasn't surprised by the hire but the more I think about it the
more I'm fine with it. As motorbike mentioned, Kyle has added others to the
staff as well and Brian has been a student of the game from some great
coaches.I think Shah will be a great addition to the coaching staff
as well. He will be a great recruiter and a good role model to the player as
well. He has done a lot with his education and career that is a good example to
young players.Time will only tell if this was the right choice or
not, but I have confidence in Kyle - he knows a lot more than I do.Bottom line is we have a good group of retuning players, a great defense and
have just secured our best recruiting class ever up at the U. The Utes are
going to be on national TV for every game and the PAC 12 money is starting to
come in.It's a great time to be a Ute and I can't wait for the
season to begin.
@DuckhunterShouldn't you be more focused on commenting on your Cougs
under 50 recruiting class than continuing to spend your waking moments obsessed
with everything Utah?I know it's hard to take for Cougar fans. Even
on their own website, they are once again being outshadowed by their big
brother. Get used to it.
Johnson has a great understanding of the game and the quarterback's job in
running the team. I've no doubt he will do well in the position.Unlike other OCs of the past, I'm sure I won't be finding myself
"screaming at the television" that they're calling the wrong play.Whittingham knows what he has in BJ.
I thought this was ground hog day not April's fools day
Honestly, the more I think about this, the WORSE I feel about it. Think about
the message this sends to all of the coaches who have put in time in the
program, especially A Rod. He better be outstanding, or it could ruin both of
@ Duckhunter"I fully endorse this move. It has the
"Duckhunter Seal of Approval"."Will you continue to
endorse Brian Johnson as Utah's OC after he lights up the scoreboard on your
Cougies in September?Utah is returning most of their starters from
last years beatdown of the Cougies which includes a healthy Jordan Wynn (with
back up QB's if needed), John White IV, and one of the best defenses in the
country will all be back.
@williary"hypocrisy, justification, rationalization, spin,
desperation, excuses, deflection, etc....."Thanks for the LOL!
It does seem odd to promote a 24 year old as an OC but it's too early to judge.
If Utes offense is terrible next year then there will be a lot of complaints
about him. I think most Ute fans wanted a big name and after the harsh judgment
on Doman, I would think most ute fans are sceptical about hiring such a young
guy. On the other hand, if he really as good and brilliant as Whit says then
maybe the U treating him well now by giving him these opportunities will help
prepare him to someday be the head coach if Whit ever decides to leave.
This is interesting.I have to say, given the choice between Crowton
and Johnson, even with Brian's inexperience, I take Brian every day of the
week.I think Brian wouldn't get the promotion had he not been the
right person for the job. Thing is, Whit giveth and Whit taketh away! Look at
Schram and ARod. Brian must have impressed him in a lot of different ways. Look
at Hays for example. When we first saw him play, looking at Utah's schedule,
there wasn't many that predicted more than 4-5 wins this season. Brian did a
tremendous job with Hays!Should be exciting seeing what comes about
with this change. Go Ute's
LOVE these coaching moves. Makes a big push in recruiting. Youth, energy,
intelligence, diversity, personality. Shah will be terrific recruiting Cali.
That's the main job of position coaches. Finn also a solid Cali recruiter.As far as BJ goes, if the smartest guy in the room just happens to be
the youngest, who cares. Very forward thinking move on Whit's part.
Corporations do this all the time. Youth and intelligence means new ideas,
innovation, engergy. BJ is a born leader. Great moves.
I fully endorse this move. It has the "Duckhunter Seal of Approval".
I love it. Yeah it sounds risky on the surface, but with Whittingham spreading
out the duties as much as he is, no one person is going to have too much on his
plate INCLUDING Brian Johnson.If you're ever going to take a risk on a
young guy, this is the way and the time to do it.Great D to back you up, a
much improved QB and O-line situation, and a second stud RB to add to an already
good receiving corps. Sept can't come fast enough.
I like the choice. He must have awesome leadership qualities to be named at a
Really? After conducting a nationwide search we realized we have the best
candidate right here......I have a hard time believing that. The first place you
look is within your own system. If you don't have a legitimate replacement, then
you go look elsewhere. Sounds to me like they couldn't find anybody good that
wanted to take the job, so they settled for Johnson. However, he was a smart
player, he may do well...in time.