Comments about ‘Cougars capitalizing on players' change of heart’

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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 1 2012 5:46 p.m. MST

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Captain L
Provo, UT

For those who have the option, being on a mission and realizing what is most important in life, causes or at least allows those players the chance to enroll at BYU , the place they realize is the best option/choice for them. There truly isn't another place / university that provides the environment and the athletic opportunity that BYU provides. Good choice by these young men and good luck to them.

RockOn
Spanish Fork, UT

Dick... interesting. I'd like more. How about the BYU players who have a change of heart on a mission and go elsewhere? How many go to BYU and decide it isn't for them and end up directly at Utah or USU, etc.

I wonder if it balances out, is a net positive or net negative.

factcheck
Salt Lake City, UT

Jan Jorgensen signed with Kentucky I believe out of HS. I think his dad called Whit first, but no offer. I guess the reverse had happened to BYU as well. Jake Murphy aka- 'Jack' Murphy LOL! (See Hedgehog comment on Aug 8) originally signed at BYU

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

I can see transferring out of Utah St and Logan. But not Stanford or USC. If you get a degree from Stanford it's money in the bank.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@eastcoastcoug

And yet Taysom Hill just did transfer out of Stanford and came to BYU.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Transfers from the majors to BYU?

Not all players want to test themselves against the highest level competition... nothing wrong with that.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Transfers from the majors to BYU?

Not all players want to test themselves against the highest level competition... nothing wrong with that."

Considering that the Utes are on BYU's schedule, you probably aren't counting them as tough competition then. When you call out the weakness of BYU's schedule, it's a lose-lose for you; you're only hurting yourself. Besides, BYU's only got one (that's 1 or ONE) more year of soft WAC teams. It drastically improves after that. But don't let the facts get in the way of your hatred for BYU.

Jens Bloomquist
Forks, WA

I was disappointed that Dick didn't take the opportunity to outline the outgoing transfers as well. Maybe in a separate article? Ben Olson and Jake Murphy are very good examples.

I think if you just compare the transfers that decide on their mission -- BYU would come out WAY ahead. But if you also factor in transfers like Jake Heaps, Drew Miller, Bristol Olumua, and Ofa Mohetau, then it probably balances out.

Also, coaching changes play a big part. Ben Olson committed to Crowton, who wasn't there when he returned. Taysom Hill committed to Jim Harbaugh at Stanford, who had already moved to the 49ers by the end of his mission. Heck, Utah State fired Riley Nelson's dad during his mission. Those things have got to matter.

MLH
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I was told by a RM that is now playing for BYU that the Mission Presidents are involved with getting these players to change schools. Two years being on a mission and who wouldn't expect to see those kids change if is what I have been told true. I don't think there are to many MP out there that would recommend going to Stanford over BYU.

vesparider
Pocatello, ID

MLH- The mission Pres doesn't get these guys to transfer to BYU. In Taysom's case he made the choice and then contacted his MP to get permission to get the ball rolling towards BYU. Chris Collinsworth from the bb team and Taysom were companions for several months and I'm guessing they had quite a few conversations on their futures. I assume that Chris was influential in convincing Taysom to check out if the fb team was interested. Chris and Taysom are now roommates.

One player I thought of not mentioned in the article was Center Tom Sorenson who started as a true freshman at Vanderbilt before his mission. I don't know the circumstances of what got him to BYU but he started for a couple years before injuries cut his playing career short.

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

That makes two very good QB recruits from Idaho for the Cougs. Anyone else see any irony there since they will be playing a lot of Idaho schools in the near future?

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

Left out Harvey Unga at Utah. Utah didn't have a scholarship when he got home. Big loss for the Utes. Jake Murphy was home early and the Y didn't have a scholarship either. BYU messed up not staying ahead of the changes in the mission field. Both asked the player to walk on until the next semester, neither did. Win some and lose some. Juggling scholarships is difficult for any school and for the Y and a little for the U it is very difficult with so many missionaries. If the player changes the formula it messes up plans already in motion.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

Howard S. is that why some go to Utah?

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@CougarBlue

"...is that why some go to Utah?"
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No... it's why some choose a mid major with healthy dose of WAC/MWC/CUSA competition instead of BCS competition.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"No... it's why some choose a mid major with healthy dose of WAC/MWC/CUSA competition instead of BCS competition."

Howard,

I guess I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess that you are ignorant (the alternative being that you know the facts but choose to ignore them). Let me inform you that starting 2013 BYU's schedule is actually pretty good. Besides, I can name a WAC taam, a MWC team, and a CUSA team that are better than some of the teams Utah has to play next year.

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