"No... it's why some choose a mid major with healthy dose of WAC/MWC/CUSA
competition instead of BCS competition."Howard,I
guess I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess that you are ignorant
(the alternative being that you know the facts but choose to ignore them). Let
me inform you that starting 2013 BYU's schedule is actually pretty good.
Besides, I can name a WAC taam, a MWC team, and a CUSA team that are better than
some of the teams Utah has to play next year.
@CougarBlue"...is that why some go to Utah?"*********No... it's why some choose a mid major with healthy dose
of WAC/MWC/CUSA competition instead of BCS competition.
Howard S. is that why some go to Utah?
Left out Harvey Unga at Utah. Utah didn't have a scholarship when he got home.
Big loss for the Utes. Jake Murphy was home early and the Y didn't have a
scholarship either. BYU messed up not staying ahead of the changes in the
mission field. Both asked the player to walk on until the next semester,
neither did. Win some and lose some. Juggling scholarships is difficult for any
school and for the Y and a little for the U it is very difficult with so many
missionaries. If the player changes the formula it messes up plans already in
That makes two very good QB recruits from Idaho for the Cougs. Anyone else see
any irony there since they will be playing a lot of Idaho schools in the near
MLH- The mission Pres doesn't get these guys to transfer to BYU. In Taysom's
case he made the choice and then contacted his MP to get permission to get the
ball rolling towards BYU. Chris Collinsworth from the bb team and Taysom were
companions for several months and I'm guessing they had quite a few
conversations on their futures. I assume that Chris was influential in
convincing Taysom to check out if the fb team was interested. Chris and Taysom
are now roommates. One player I thought of not mentioned in the
article was Center Tom Sorenson who started as a true freshman at Vanderbilt
before his mission. I don't know the circumstances of what got him to BYU but
he started for a couple years before injuries cut his playing career short.
I was told by a RM that is now playing for BYU that the Mission Presidents are
involved with getting these players to change schools. Two years being on a
mission and who wouldn't expect to see those kids change if is what I have been
told true. I don't think there are to many MP out there that would recommend
going to Stanford over BYU.
I was disappointed that Dick didn't take the opportunity to outline the outgoing
transfers as well. Maybe in a separate article? Ben Olson and Jake Murphy are
very good examples.I think if you just compare the transfers that
decide on their mission -- BYU would come out WAY ahead. But if you also factor
in transfers like Jake Heaps, Drew Miller, Bristol Olumua, and Ofa Mohetau, then
it probably balances out.Also, coaching changes play a big part.
Ben Olson committed to Crowton, who wasn't there when he returned. Taysom Hill
committed to Jim Harbaugh at Stanford, who had already moved to the 49ers by the
end of his mission. Heck, Utah State fired Riley Nelson's dad during his
mission. Those things have got to matter.
"Transfers from the majors to BYU?Not all players want to test
themselves against the highest level competition... nothing wrong with
that."Considering that the Utes are on BYU's schedule, you
probably aren't counting them as tough competition then. When you call out the
weakness of BYU's schedule, it's a lose-lose for you; you're only hurting
yourself. Besides, BYU's only got one (that's 1 or ONE) more year of soft WAC
teams. It drastically improves after that. But don't let the facts get in the
way of your hatred for BYU.
Transfers from the majors to BYU?Not all players want to test
themselves against the highest level competition... nothing wrong with that.
@eastcoastcougAnd yet Taysom Hill just did transfer out of Stanford
and came to BYU.
I can see transferring out of Utah St and Logan. But not Stanford or USC. If you
get a degree from Stanford it's money in the bank.
Jan Jorgensen signed with Kentucky I believe out of HS. I think his dad called
Whit first, but no offer. I guess the reverse had happened to BYU as well. Jake
Murphy aka- 'Jack' Murphy LOL! (See Hedgehog comment on Aug 8) originally signed
Dick... interesting. I'd like more. How about the BYU players who have a change
of heart on a mission and go elsewhere? How many go to BYU and decide it isn't
for them and end up directly at Utah or USU, etc.I wonder if it
balances out, is a net positive or net negative.
For those who have the option, being on a mission and realizing what is most
important in life, causes or at least allows those players the chance to enroll
at BYU , the place they realize is the best option/choice for them. There truly
isn't another place / university that provides the environment and the athletic
opportunity that BYU provides. Good choice by these young men and good luck to