Hello,The majority of the population is no longer living and working
on farms. Neither are they working at similar jobs doing heavy labor. They
walked(as Europeans continue doing to this day).Our ancestors could eat
all of that "heavy" food and work off those calories. They were,
generally, strong and healthy individuals.It is a much different scenario
in our modern times.
@ Lowonoil: And one more point - the composition of human breast milk changes
over time. The longer a woman nurses (month and year wise), the less fat and
other nutrients are present in the breast milk. This again supports
the idea that the fat content of milk - cow, human, or otherwise - stops playing
a role in human development once humans are old enough to obtain sustenance,
including fat and other nutrients, from other sources.
@ Lowonoil: How am I refuting arguments you never made?You keep
talking about the "natural high fat" and how that must mean it is
something humans need - I am disputing part of that claim based on
the fact that human only drink human milk for a short period of time and the
disbelief that cows, camels, sheep, goats, yaks, water buffalo, and horses (as
well as all other sources from which humans consume milk) have naturally
selected to produce fat based on human needs as opposed to the needs of their
own species.Additionally, life is much different for humans in the
last 200 years or so than it has been in all the thousands of years before that
so our needs will have changed as well.There is every reason to
believe that after a certain point, human fat consumption can and should
Nice job refuting arguments I never made. My only point is that the high fat
content of milk strongly implies that fat is a very desirable nutrient, counter
to the fat phobia that has been ingrained in us for over 50 years to the
detriment of our health.Actually I always thought it was weird that
the only ones who routinely consume the milk of another species are humans (and
their pet cats).
@ Lowonoil: And by time most kids start school, they are no longer drinking
mother's milk... ;)and I am thinking it is probably a pretty safe
bet that in most cultures throughout history children 5 and over have
stopped....yes, I know, there are the odd (number wise not any other
wise) mothers here and there who nurse for longer periods of time, but I am
willing to bet the number of those has never been high enough to influence
natural selection....once a child is old enough to get their
nutrition and calories from other sources, mother's milk has stopped being an
issue and the amount of fat in it no longer matters.Sorry, but I
don't buy natural selection as a force for determining the amount of fat in
cow's milk for human consumption.
You're right, human milk is not the same as cow milk. Human milk contains about
40% MORE fat than whole cow's milk. Human or bovine, natural selection (or
intellegent design if you prefer) has made milk a high fat food because that is
what is needed for good health.
@ Lowonoil: "If the fat in milk is so bad for the young, why did millions
of years of natural selection result in the mother expending so much of her own
energy to put it there?"Um - we're talking about cow's milk,
not mother's milk.The fat in cow's milk was put there by mama cows
for baby cows, not by mama humans for baby humans. Natural selection has
nothing to do with this discussion.I do not have a degree in
nutrition nor am I a doctor, so I cannot speak directly to the premise of the
letter. That being said, when my child was little I was given conflicting
messages about whole milk versus 2% milk for growing children. The one
consistent was to stay away from 1% and skim milk while the brain is developing.
Whole milk is 3.25% , 2% is 2%, 1% is 1%, and skim is 0.0% -
0.5%.If the children drink milk of the proper percentage at home,
the 1 cup of milk they get daily at school will not affect things that much.
If the fat in milk is so bad for the young, why did millions of years of natural
selection result in the mother expending so much of her own energy to put it
Instead of the government telling us what we can and cannot eat, they should return cooking classes to the schools and get rid of some of these 'feel good'
classesTeaching children how to prepare safe food from start to finish
into a healthy meal. It was at Olympus Jr. High that I learned how to prepare
healthy meals, and my family, in turn, was fed properly. Second, eating
together as a family is also a plus for good nutrition.One thing the
government has been successful in doing, is teaching our youthful
entrepreneurshow to set up 'junk food carts' outside school property. I
remember the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make
The ironic thing about government dietary guidelines is the fact that ever since
the government started to preach their version of healthy eating, we have had an
increase in obesity rates.
Our ability to control our weight, blood sugar, and cardiovascular health has
gone downhill since the fifties when nutrition scientists declared fat the
Snidely Whiplash of the macronutrients. Saturated Fat is good for you. Processed
carbohydrate is not.I have been on a low carbohydrate, high
monounsaturated and saturated fat diet for a couple years that a mainstream
nutritionist would call suicide by food. Yet it has made me much lighter,
brought by blood sugar back into control, and resulted in dramatic improvements
in my cholesterol.I can't make the case for high fat low carb diet in 200
words but I can suggest you read Gary Taubes and those he references.
Your weight is directly affected by the food you eat. Eat correctly and the
pounds come off. When I see an obese child I can't help but blame the parents.
Eating correctly is something that many people just don't know how to do, this
is evident with all the obesity in our state and country. Kids who have parents
who don't know anything about nutrition also know nothing about nutrition. It
is a travesty. ObamaCare would work if we mitigated millions of pounds of
fat on people by educating them on nutrition. If our nation could learn to eat
properly we would be such a happier healthier nation.I speak from
experience. A crash course in nutrition, eating right with light exercise lost
me 100 pounds over the course of a year. I didn't starve myself, I ate healthy
whole grains, vegetables, some heathy fats, proteins, in the correct order
throughout the day. It saved my life. My body rejects fast food as poison at
this point. Just saying. Let's make sure the school lunch served is
what our kids need. And if it isn't, pack your kids a lunch from home.
Cutting fat in milk helps offset fat intake from foods with fat contents more
difficult to cut. We all take in enormous amounts of fat in other foods.
Just what we need someone else telling us what to eat despite the fact we live
longer than we ever did before. It is interesting people think all these
nutrimyths are the gospel and a way tolive longer and be healthier. I will eat
what I please.
Saturated fat is a huge part of our Nation's health care crisis. Whole milk
should NOT be considered a health promoting food.