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Published: Sunday, Jan. 29 2012 1:32 p.m. MST

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StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Rational, I'm not arguing that BYU has had more history at the QB position, just being realistic about this conception of vast superiority by many BYU fans.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@stgtoslc

It is "vast superiority", not even close.

Veracity
Morgan, UT

Scott Farcus

Beaver, UT

Sounds like a fish story to me!.

Recruiting's up because of ESPN Thurs. & Fri. night exposure?

A fisherman can cast his net out into the ocean and catch all the little fish he wants, its the skilled fisherman that catches the trophies one cast at a time.

Enjoy your hukilau Capt. DuPaix

Well, I guess being aired on local KJAZZ which reaches all the way to Logan brings in more recruits than ESPN is what you might call national attention...and you had better fish for Quarterbacks, because your selective fishing is bringing up groopers...

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Hawkeye79:

"I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you have a basic understanding of how football scheduling works....Then again, I'm sure you would rather play for a team that drops Boise State from its schedule in order to accommodate a team from Montana that doesn't even play in the same division."

Either that was a desperate attempt to maneuver Utah as a school who runs away from competition, or it would be YOU who does not understand how scheduling works. Utah did NOT replace Boise St. with Montana St.

Utah scheduled a Home-&-Home arrangement with Iowa St. In 2010, we played in Ames. In 2011 we WERE scheduled to play in SLC, but with the Big XII moving from an 8-game league schedule to a 9-game league schedule, they bought out of their contract with Utah. This left a hole in Utah's 2011 Home schedule. Boise St. was an AWAY game.

Like Iowa St, Utah's league slate moved from an 8-game format to a 9-game format. Therefore, in order to balance our schedule to 6-HOME and 6-AWAY, one AWAY game had to be nixed. And THAT's why BSU was bumped.

Since this has been explained over and over again, and you're not new, I must conclude your motivation for attacking Utah for cancelling our return game to Boise as a desperate, disingenuous, frantic and emotional jab. How sad for you that you must resort to such shameful tactics.

Scott Farcus
Beaver, UT

@ Veracity

"Well, I guess being aired on local KJAZZ which reaches all the way to Logan brings in more recruits than ESPN is what you might call national attention...and you had better fish for Quarterbacks, because your selective fishing is bringing up groopers...

What in the world are you talking about?

Im true blue through and through! Im voicing my opinion about some high schools coaches son coming out an expert in recruiting!

Its all smoke and mirrors, if you can't see that, theres some green Kool Aid over on the picnic table for you.

I say fire Holmoe, he has fouled the entire department up.

Veracity
Morgan, UT

Scott Farcus

Beaver, UT

And I bet you beleive the cow jumped over the moon and the cat ran away with the spoon.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

"Duckhunter | 12:22 p.m. Jan. 30, 2012
Highland, UT
@stgtoslc

It is "vast superiority", not even close."

For the last 20 years of last century BYU may have had "vast superiority" at the position, but since then it has been pretty close.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@stg

No it hasn't.

@Veracity

farkus is a utah troll, although I'm sure you already figured that out. There are 2 or 3 screen names that post from "Beaver" and that is one of them. All the same person. I'm fairly certain it is just more screen names from the same individual that also goes by "54-10", "kosta fesenko", "hondo", "articuno BYU", "Noble Promise", "slcBYUfan", "patriot", and quite a few other names as well.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

...not to mention the Utah "fans" that work for Deseret News posting 1000 word comments only seen by select individuals. They're so crafty.

LonestarRunner
Salt Lake City, UT

StGtoSLC

It's VAST superiority from a national perspective; and it's not even close:

National Champsionships
BYU 1
Utah 0

Heiman Trophy Winners
BYU 1
Utah 0

Top 25 Finishes
BYU 18
Utah 7

Top 10 Finishes
BYU 4
Utah 3

Top 15 Finishes
BYU 10
Utah 3

National College Football Hall of Fame Inductees
BYU 6
Utah 1 (a coach from the 40's)

Doak Walker Awards (Nation's Best Running Back)
BYU 1
Utah 0

Davey O'Brien Awards (Nation's Best Quarterback)
BYU 4
Utah 0

Sammy Baugh Trophies (Nation's Best Passer)
BYU 7
Utah 0

Outland Trophies (Nation's Best Interior Lineman)
BYU 2
Utah 0

National Individual Awards
BYU 17
Utah 0

By joining an AQ conference, even the prestige of your two BCS bowls is diminished, and NOBODY outside of Utah cares about your head-to-head "superiority" from the leather-helmet era.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Before talking about "superiority" on a national scale, Utah should first try to win at least one national award.

*crickets*

redfeather
Palo Alto, CA

In 2013, the only BCS bowl will be the BCS championship game.

The Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, and Rose Bowls will be lumped back in with the other bowls. The term "BCS Bowl" will be meaningless and all of this conference musical chairs shuffling for AQ status will be for naught.

Hawkeye79
Iowa City, IA

Hi Naval Vet,

I appreciate your response, however you must still face the fact that Utah backed out of dates with Boise State in 2011, 2012 and 2013. As far as I am aware, there is no requirement that a team must play 6 home and 6 away games each season. In fact, as a Naval vet, I'm sure you're aware that Navy played only 5 home games last year. Harvard did the same.

When faced with the choice of a challenge (playing a solid team on the road) or a cupcake (FCS school at home), Utah chose the cupcake. Either game could have been dropped, but Utah chose to keep Montana St. over Boise State. People can decide for themselves whether they consider that the decision of a great team or a team desperate for an easy win.

Again, to each his (or her) own.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Lonestar, try bringing something relevant to the conversation I was having instead of typical "look at our awards from our glory years" trash talk.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Hawkeye79,

From what I understand of the situation, the Montana State and Boise State scheduling are completely unrelated. Iowa State bought out the contract with Utah, which was replaced by Montana State for the opening week. The BYU and Pitt games were already scheduled, along with a 9-game conference schedule. The BYU and Pitt games were also already scheduled. For Utah to play Boise, they would have had to drop one of those two games, as Boise played Georgia opening week.

Nice moniker, btw, Iowa's been my favorite Big 10 team to watch the last 10 years or so.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Haha my bad, don't know how I managed to repeat the same line in the middle of my comment.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

StGtoSLC

Try bringing something relevant into the conversation like what national awards has Utah ever received. Even during your "glory years", BYU still managed to finish in the Top 25 more often:

Bronco - 5 of 7 years, 3 in the Top 15
Kyle - 3 of 7 years, 1 in the Top 15

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

mussingaround: "Try bringing something relevant into the conversation like what national awards has Utah ever received."

Umm no, because that's actually not relevant to my conversation. I won't stoop to the level of whipping out measuring sticks. We'll see in September which coach has his team ready to play against the other one again. If some back-and-forth chest-puffing is what you want over NFL players, pro bowlers, all-americans, etc, etc, ask Naval Vet or Vegas Ute, I'm sure they'll oblige. That's an exercise in futility, however, so I prefer actual topical dialogue.

The original claim was: "BYU is bringing in 2 QB recruits that are better than any the utes could hope for." It's wrong. End of story for me.

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