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"This case is about what is in the best interest of a person who is in need of counseling"
Yeah, right. So, if a gay counselor is uncomfortable affirming the beliefs of a homophobic person and refers them to another counselor, they will be treated the same way, right?
"Counselors do not condone or engage in discrimination based on age, culture, disability, ethnicity, race, religion/spirituality, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, marital status/partnership, language preference, socioeconomic status or any basis proscribed by law..."
So the university discriminated against a Christian student for not violating her religion...
New York attempted to require every medical doctor to perform an abortion during their residency.
California attempted to make it an ethics violation to oppose same sex marriage.
Now they are attempting to for Christian students out of Counseling programs.
A University of Utah drama student failed a class because she would not take the Lord's name in vain, as specified in a script.
Give the left time, they will force people of faith out of every profession that pays well.
Obama closed 880 Chrysler dealerships and only one was a Democrat donor (he gave to Hillary).
These clowns are waging economic war on Christians.
Virgil @9:19 p.m. - you are absolutely correct. When the shoe is on the other foot, the story is completely different. Hypocrisy at its most basic, and yet they are blind to it.
"Obama closed 880 Chrysler dealerships and only one was a Democrat donor (he gave to Hillary)."
New headline "Obama hates Republican Chrysler Auto Dealers"
In breaking news today, it was determined that Obama used only political affiliation as a criteria in determining which Chrysler Dealerships to close.
Where do you come up with this stuff? Who would actually go looking?
Is this the kind of information the "lamestream media" fails to report?
too funny.
This whole profession is dysfunctional. It's as if Jesus were to come to earth and not be able to tell people the truth because he needs to accept all of the dysfunction without applying the remedy.
"Counselors do not condone or engage in discrimination based on age, culture, disability, ethnicity, race, religion/spirituality..." So why was she dismissed then? Oh, wait...I don't see anything on that list that says counselors do not condone or engage in hypocrisy...that must be how the got around it.
This is good news. There is an extremist element that can't tolerate non-PC views and this is a barrier to them. I also recall that another universty in the area, the University of Toledo, fired a black woman who wrote in a newspaper editorial that she objected that civil rights and gay rights are being treated as if they are the same. The woman is also suing the university.
I hope that this makes them think that they can't discriminate against people because of their religious or cultural views.
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@IMAN
This was an appeal and hate lost
This article gives a lot more information than previous articles on this case have given.
It is totally within her job description to request the patient be seen by a different counselor - there are many reasons such a request may be made and not being able to appropriately help or counsel a client is one of them.
Based on the information in this article, I would disagree with the school - they did act inappropriately and she should not have been kicked out of the program.
I agree that this counselor should have the option of handing this patient off to someone else.
Now, if homosexual issues were a large percentage of the caseloads, that would be a different story.
People on both sides of this issue look to make a stand and in doing so, go to unreasonable lengths.
This should have been a non issue
Yet a few days later, Ward was called in for a review and told that unless she could "see the error of her ways" and change her "belief system," she would have to leave the program
And how is this not establishment of a state religion?
Iman,
so disagreeing with something is hate? really???
"Shortly before the client arrived, Ward contacted her supervisor and asked to transfer him because of a values conflict an acceptable option within the profession and her supervisor agreed."
Seems reasonable. Now if she were the ONLY one there then it'd be more of a problem.
@Maudine;
I agree. It does seem that she tried to get someone else who COULD counsel this man to take the case. If I were in the position needing counseling I would prefer someone who wasn't going to use superstition to give me the counsel.
i think it is great she isn't compromising her beliefs and values. i would want a counselor who is honest of what they think and wouldn't lie by saying i think it is great you are homosexual just because their liberal school said to think that at the office. when they really do not think that.if someone wants a pro gay stance in a counselor i am sure they can find one that agrees with their lifestyle.
@sara and whitney
Do you think you could actaully even attempt to try to hide your clear bias in this story? you state several things as fact are either blatantly wrong or purely your opinion. Can you at least try to be me discrete with your bias next time?
As a licensed therapist, I am glad she won her appeal. Every therapist should have the right to "refer" any counselee they cannot, for whatever personal reason, provide counseling for. She will need to give serious thought, however, to what type of counseling venue she'll operate within once she graduates and gets licensed. She may want to work for a clinic/organization that does not send clients she'd need to refer on. Given her religious background, I'd recommend pastoral counseling to her a specialization, so she can avoid further turmoil in this regard.
Hilarious to hear that Jimmer actually got chewed out for calling for the ball in practice. He's in rookie point guard hell. Those first 12 games or so he looked like someone had told him he was going to get beat up after the game if he made any shots. When Thornton heals up and Jimmer (1 of two team players on the whole team) heads back to the bench they'll have to start building chemistry all over again. Thornton is the most stone-faced, 1 on 5 I'm-gonna-get-mine player on the team. Unfortunately he knows how to put the ball in the hoop pretty well. Smart's got a lot of work cut out for him.
This is a very encoraging development. I go to Eastern Michigan University and the claims of the faculty that this was needed to avoid a postion that could be seen as discriminatory are not based in fact. We are constantly bombarded with pro-LGBT propaganda all over campus. Anyone who could have interpreted giving this student freedom as anything other than granting freedom is clearly out of touch with reality.
I am a therapist and while I am not Christian or share this women's views of homosexuality in anyway it does sound like she acted appropriately for the situation. I agree with Chris Digan she should carefully consider where she chooses to work following her schooling and should continue to refer those that she comes into contact with that come to her that want to address similar type concerns.
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