Couple thoughts:First, for all the hatred spouted towards President
Obama on this board, the man by all appearances has a terrific marriage, happy
family, good children, basically passes the "Faith" litmus test with
flying colors. Yet he's still hated. So that leads me to believe any
Republicans claiming "faith" plays a big part in your disapproval of
Newt is dishonest. Clearly "faith" accounts for nothing if they don't
agree with everything you believe.Second, who cares what a candidate
believes in? W was a very "faithful" person, yet drove the country
into the ground and ran out the White House back door as the tire-fire burned
brightly. No doubt many "unfaithful" past Presidents have faired much
better than W at their job. Third, to the embarrassment that is
Mountanman. Here's what the majority of humans believe. A faithful person does
that not automatically make a good person. While a good person does not
automatically have to pass the "faith" test.
The headline spelled it out...faith is personal. Which is to say NOT public.
Ernest Bass: would an LDS consertive vote for Gingrich given his moral track
record ----- or something like that. I'm conservative, but I value my ethics
more than my conservatism so in answer to your question my response would have
to be no
@MountanmanHayden, ID"Liberals believe nothing and no one is
larger than themselves! Are there any atheits who are conservatives? I rest my
case!"Your ignorance is astounding. I'm an atheist and am very
conservative. That's like me saying "are there any christians who are not
judgemental?" ... and with your statement I could rest my case.
Would LDS Repubs vote for Newt given he has no morals or ethics?
I think having faith is a plus with a candidate but it isn't a reason not to
vote for someone. Jimmy Carter was a staunch Baptist and a horrible leader to
boot. Obviously his faith didn't help him much with the economy back then. Obama
is a once a year church attender and he also is incompetent with the economy. I
do think faith in God and a sense of moral values is important when selecting
judges although Carter being a Baptist should have been a staunch anti-abortion
president but I recall his wife being a HUGE pro choice baby killer and Jimmy
went along with the wife.
MountanmanHayden, IDThus we see the fundamental difference between
conservatives and liberals. Liberals believe nothing and no one is larger than
themselves! Are there any atheits who are conservatives? I rest my case!------------Talk about circular reasoning!Wouldn't a better question be: Are there any liberal who believe in God? The answer is yes. The majority of liberals believe in a God.Your statement is false.
Spouting how much you have "faith" during this election circus is in
NO WAY spiritual. The candidates not only spout their
"faith", they've also been making declarations of bigotry and
discrimination against their fellow Americans.They are ripping one
another to shreds, frequently using lies and half-truths (which are also
half-lies). There is nothing "spiritual" about this.I don't care if the candidate is religious, apathetic, agnostic or
athiest. I'm really tired of all the religous hoopla attending the circus.Keep your religion between you and your god, where it belongs.
'Liberals believe nothing and no one is larger than themselves!' - Mountanman |
1:19 p.m. Jan. 27, 2012 Wow. So glad to see the Deseret
News Double Standard, hard at work. Since I am a liberal and I have
'nothing.' Sounds like a pretty sad life. No wonder the
moderator allows comments like that. Can't have people thinking that
Liberals are human beings.
Dear Everyone on the stand.....Belief in God? Check! Belief in Jesus? Check!
Good, now start talking about fixing this country!!!!
@Mountanman"Liberals believe nothing and no one is larger than
themselves! "News to me, I'm a liberal but I'm also a
atheists my typo
A persons religious beliefs should not be a factor in the Presidency, providing
that they honor the constitution and the oath of office. If people are going to
scrutinize another for beliefs as a measuring stick for fitness of office, then
the might want to check if that person honors the sacnity of marriage, for
example, did they have an open marriage, or just plain committed adultery...same
thing. If they can't manage their personal fairs or affairs, are they fit to
manage the nation? The list goes on. Fitness of office should be based upon
what that person is going to do for the country and how they conduct themselves
on the world stage. Not which pulpit they kneel at, or what they believe in.
Thus we see the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals.
Liberals believe nothing and no one is larger than themselves! Are there any
atheits who are conservatives? I rest my case!
'As the field of candidates narrows and the election creeps ever closer, the
Republican presidential debates are becoming not just more spirited, but more
spiritual.' - Title Think this is a new thing? **'Fox
News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 07/17/11 I, would disagree. **'Trump on Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe
It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11 I care, what a
persons faith is... so long as that faith, does not conflict, with
the ability to lead this nation.
The role of faith? I assume that if you DO have faith you also practice morality
in marriage after all the two go hand in hand according to the New Testament. So
- we have one candidate with a 30+ year marriage to one woman and no affairs ...
complete fidelity. We then have another candidate who is on wife #3 now having
cheated on the previous two and supposedly wanting an "open relationship
with other women". Hmmm, the role of faith? I think I will go with door #1.
Now of course Newt could have repented and all... but hearing his former #2 talk
it didn't sound as if she had gotten that message. But hey all the so-called
evangelicals (Palin, etc...) back Newt because after all he is the only
"true conservative". I guess if being a "true conservative"
doesn't also imply marriage fidelity then I am looking for something else other
than conservatism or liberalism. Maybe I will just say - I like Mitt - I trust
Mitt both with the economy and as a moral and decent and SMART leader.
[Romney said he "would also seek the guidance of Providence in making
decisions."]Seems like a good idea, I do like Lincoln Chafee.