Totally agree. It was the DCFS department required to provide the supervision.
Still a grandma falling asleep day or not is not imminent threat of harm. In
fact moving child from home to home and back again IS harmful to the child. I'm
glad they are seeking better guidelines on this.
@ K: From what I understand the problem was not that the grandmother was
sleeping, but that she fell asleep while the child was having visitation with
the child's mother - the mother is not deemed to be a "safe" adult and
so the visitations are supposed to be supervised - the grandmother fell asleep
during this and thus exposed the child to potential harm.Here is
where the bull comes in, however: the caseworker was there and was able to
supervise the visit - as a matter of fact, it is probable that the whole reason
she was there is because it is her responsibility to supervise the visit, not
the grandmother's. The grandmother should have been able to do what ever she
wanted (within reason) during that time frame.It is my understanding
that the custodial adult alone cannot provide the supervision required during
supervised visitations - a "neutral" (notice the quotes) party must be
there.This was a totally ridiculous call on the part of DCFS - the
worst that should have happened is the already established rules should have
been followed requiring another adult to be there during visitation.If the grandmother was
In my work, I come in contact with parents and Grandparents involved with DCFS.
I've been rather appalled by the high number of these cases that end quickly
with the children put up for adoption and parental rights terminated. Many
families involved with DCFS do not have much money to pay lawyers to help. The
rules are onerous, especially for Grandparents & I doubt even I could
qualify for "kinship care". The pendulum has swung too far and too
many children are in foster care or adopted out. Utah has got to put more money
& time into family reconciliation. It would save the state money overall
for foster care. I will say there are cases where there is serious abuse and
swift action is needed, but over the last decade I've seen more heart wrenching
cases that were patently unfair to the children, parents & extended family.
I have watched people be destroyed. I'm so happy these two Representatives
tacked this issue & that two bills were passed. This is much needed!
I hate to say the grandmother sleeps at least 6 hours with no mom visiting and
no DCFS caseworker in the house every night. Why on earth would gram lose
custody or taking a nap while the child was in the presence of 2 other adults.
Or even none? A pregnant mom can't fall asleep watching her toddler play on the
living couch for 20 minutes?