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Published: Wednesday, Jan. 25 2012 11:54 a.m. MST

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Johnson72
Salt Lake City, UT

Right...

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

I love your work with FAIR, Scott Gordon! Keep it up!

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It's the Chicago way, and right out of the community organizer's handbook- Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals." Although the slime will never seem to come from the Obama campaign, or the Democrat party, there is no mystery as to the motivation or beneficiary of these scurrilous attacks.

This is going to get worse, much worse, before the election.

Just think of the media outrage that would be taking place if any of the slurs against Mormons were targeted instead at Muslims, or people of certain racial or ethnic backgrounds, or sexual persuasion.

All this should resolve decent people to fight even harder to defeat the Democrats at every level, even the cuddly loveable Utah Democrats who refuse to call out their national colleagues on their behavior.

Arizona Reader
Gilbert, AZ

Just FYI, I did just read a pretty good article about us on USAToday.com and beside a few small things, I thought it was pretty accurate. Take a look...

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Obama has had to deal with people attacking him somehow simultaneously as
1. being a member of Rev. Wright's church
2. being a muslim
3. being an atheist

who somehow gets attacked when he doesn't go to church and when he does go to church. The last person who wants to get in a religious-bashing argument with Romney is Obama who I'm sure is sick of that kind of garbage being thrown at him. Obama could probably sympathize with Romney more than most politicians. Biden (a Catholic, another rather unrepresented group at the top, though Gingrich and Santorum are both Catholic) has already said that it was outrageous for anyone to suggest that Romney shouldn't be President because of his religion.

OnlyInUtah
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The intelligence of those labeling the LDS faith as a cult is always in question. Spreading lies is the only way they can get the attention they need and the only way a candidate like Obama can have a prayer to win in this election.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

If that anti-mormon slime machine gets Ron Paul elected, you will have one proud Mormon.

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

Given the history of right-wing extremists how anyone could be surprised? I'll never understand why Mormons embrace the Republican Party the way they do. The national Republican Party throws Utah a few bones and until it really matters, as it does with Romney, and then the extremist element of the Republican Party start the hate campaign. The liberal Democratic Party is far more accepting and embracing of religious and philosophical differences that the Republicans will ever be.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I doubt this will really be much of an issue since Mitt will most likely lose in Florida anyway and then bow out shortly thereafter. I am thinking Romney is back with his family by the end of February and Gingrich is the nominee. The anti- mormon trash is mostly coming from the so-called Christian right which also happens to be a lot of Tea Party people. Mitt really had no chance at the nomination from the jump. The hypocritical thing here is that the far right conservatives want a purist Reagan conservative and what they are getting in Gingrich is a man who cheated - TWICE - on his wife and was forced out of congress. Also we recall the wonderful photo - op of Gingrich setting with Nancy Pelosi and chatting warmly about global warming. Gingrich is a showman and he plays - very nicely - to the audience that he is speaking to. Same with Obama. I guess these guys are meant to run against each other. Romney is the only one that can fix our sunken economy but he is not a showman and ... he is mormon (complete with horns).

ADN
Weiser, ID

I don't know why people are so opposed to a book that shows us that Jesus Christ is the God of this whole earth, not just the children of Israel in the middle east area. The Book of Mormon shows us that the Lord can have prophets anywhere He chooses and that He can have them teach His same gospel and even write it down for future generations. How can we be so arrogant as to think that we can tell the Lord what He can do, and who He can do it with. If the Lord wants prophets teaching people in America or any other part of the world, who are we to tell Him that He can't do that?

I for one am so grateful to have more of God's words. I love the Bible and read it and try to live by the principles taught in it. I also love the Book of Mormon which teaches the same truths because it is by the same author: Prophets of Jesus Christ.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

The church may not be racist now, but it used to be. If you have ever read the journal of discourses with talks by Brigham Young and others you would agree. I will not put those quotes here because I think they are rude, but if you want to check them out I encourage you to do so.

AZRods
Maricopa, AZ

Atl, in addition to Obama attending Rev Wright's church, which is factual, he also left his long time church/religion due to the caustic content of it's doctrine which was quickly swept under the democrat's rug.
Wouldn't they call that flip flopping of the highest (or lowest) level?

So as we take heat for "being" LDS, I'm amazed how comfortably Obama crawled out from under a hate filled church and abandoned his religion.

Can you imagine the cries of flip flopping and religion bashing that would go on if people actually had anything of substance against Mitt?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'"Mitt Romney's religious faith is likely to be mocked, sensationalized, disparaged and dragged through the media gutters" in the event of an election race between Romney and President Barack Obama.' - article

And yet:

**'Fox News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 07/17/11

**'Rick Perry backer decries Mitt Romney, Mormons' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar, Deseret News - 10/08/11

**Cult of Mormon comment leads Newt Gingrichs Iowa political director, Craig Bergman, to resign - By Tad Walch Deseret News 12/14/11

**Rick Santorum-backing pastor plays the Mormon cult card By Joseph Walker Deseret News 01/20/2012

FYI, these...

are NOT Obama!

The Deseret News needs to stop perpetuating this complete falsehood:

**'President Obama's purported 'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire, pundits say' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 08/10/11

As, it's 2012.

WHAT, has Obama said about Mitt Romney's, faith??

Zero.

That is all...

empty Republican rhetoric.

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

JoCo Ute | 12:25 p.m. Jan. 25, 2012

Actually, Utah was predominently Democrat just a couple generations ago.
However, when I (a LDS) have to choose between the party that supports my moral and constitutional views (at least on paper) but doesn't like my religion, or the party that will accept my religious views but works against my moral and constitutional views, I'll take the first one every time. I have thick enough skin to put up with them not liking me.

DRay
Roy, UT

Joseph Walker's article is informative and reflects expectations of many LDS as one of our own is in the national spotlight. Frightening thing is that so many vote without really understanding, or taking the time to understand, the candidates and their positions. These soundbites such as that mormons are racist fly, even in the face of all the conversions of African-Americans, and the actual practice of treating all races with respect and equal-opportunity. Book of Mormon expressed belief that only unrepentant sin creates inequality among God's children should be looked at. Those who won't vote for a Mormon do not know or understand them.

ECR
Burke, VA

DN Subscriber said, "It's the Chicago way, and right out of the community organizer's handbook- Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals." Although the slime will never seem to come from the Obama campaign, or the Democrat party, there is no mystery as to the motivation or beneficiary of these scurrilous attacks."

In case you hadn't noticed, all of these comments are coming from right wing Christian Pastors who are working for other Republican candidates and want to scare the Republicans supporting Romney into thinking he has no chance to beat President Obama. Your begging the question by insinuating these comments come from the Democrats is no different than the small minded pastors who should know better than to make the claims they are making. Your claims are just as false.

Frisbee player
Draper, UT

@JoCo Ute

Yeah, the only problem with the democratic party is its socialistic agenda...why would anybody want that for your country?

Theeng2
Holladay, UT

This is why it will be hard for Mitt to gain any southern support...

"...for the millions who attend Southern Baptist churches, this is hardly a new discussion. For nearly the past 40 years, the Southern Baptist Convention has devoted considerable effort to teaching its members about the dangers of Mormonism. In fact, probably no other organization in the nation has played a bigger role in perpetuating the idea that Mormonism is a cult than the Southern Baptist Convention.

They developed programs, trained pastors, hosted Mormonism-awareness conferences, and published articles to help spread the message to Southern Baptists that Mormonism was a dangerous cult religion they had to avoid. The SBC's Sunday School Board developed an instruction kit, "The Christian Confronting the Cults,..."

I can't post the whole thing, but it's a good article. I was a missionary in the South and it was both a positive and eye opening experience.

cval
Hyde Park, UT

I don't know whether Mitt can win the Presidency. If he does... great. One thing I do know is that the LDS Church is far better known now that it was before he ran, and that win or lose for Mitt, his candidacy has increased the Church's stature in the World and the USA.

The stereotypical comments, beliefs and slurs that some love to hurl against the LDS Church are so ridiculous, that anyone who knows many members can see them for what they are.

The stereotypes will continue to be broken down until the time when a Mormon could be President. Are we there yet? That is the question.

We all have opinions, but none of us know.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

If one compared every example in the Book of Mormon of someone contending with the Church- such as Zeezrom's attempt to discredit Amulek and destroy anything good for the sake of personal gain- if one compared every similar instance in the Book of Mormon to the continual barrage of attempts made today, it would stand only to testify of the truthfulness of this gospel.

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