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Published: Sunday, Jan. 22 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I think it shows how confused and desperate the right wing is.

When campaigning against Obama, free market, money making, and capitalism is good. When campaigning against Romney, the right acts like Democrats and rant against the free market, money making, and capitalism.

So which is it? What does the right believe?

Other than their unbelievable desire to get back into power, what motivates them? What do they stand for these days? Does anyone even know?

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Sunday - the Sun rises in the east - Krauthammer twists reality and blasts Obama - and tomorrow comes after today.

Clockwork. Got it. Nothing new here.

Look, Utah Republicans, Romney's embarrassing drubbing last night in South Carolina should be wake-up call to you who persist in believing that the GOP will come to its senses and rally behind "your" man. They won't.

What I want to know is why Utah's middle class Republicans are so loyal to a party that is so hostile to them?

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ The real maverick.. It shows the hypocrisy of the left. We can ignore the wealth of Democrat politicians like, Al Gore, John Kerry, John Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy et al but demonize the wealth of Mitt Romney! Only liberals are allowed to succeed in America. All others must be punished!

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

Funny, I have not seen anyone "attack" Romney's Money.

What I have seen is an attack on HOW Romney got his money and HOW LITTLE taxes he pays.

To date, those attacks have come more from the right than the left. Of course, that will change if Newt get the GOP nod.

Romney has done nothing outside the law. I have yet to see anyone suggest differently. By the Way, GE has probably done nothing outside the law and they are (rightly) vilified by the right.

What this does show is that the views of all of those "socialists" on the left, are really not that different from some of those views on the right.

Yes, these attacks are a "gift to Obama".

Why? Because they reflect true feelings of unfairness. Unfairness is universal. It is not left or right.

And that view is that

-the playing field favors those with LOTS of money
-the tax structure favors those with LOTS of money
-those with LOTS of money will take any advantage to get more money

Yes Charles, if I were a staunch conservative, I would try to re frame the argument also.

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

The Republicans need to give the voters something to believe in. So far they are offering nothing, and they are not even specific of what they don't like or how they would change the present policies of Obama. All they do is bellow how they can beat Obama and how they can fix the nation. Ya sure, talk is cheap. So tell us what you will fix and how. The only real change Republicans represent is their jelousy to have the mantel of the presidentcy for themselves. They are putting their self interest before the good of the nation and the people. Republicans have no plan other than to serve their self interests. They need to come up with a patriotic plan for the nation and the people.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Mountanman
Why aren't Democrats demonizing Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs?
Because it isn't about being successful.

Talk all you want about the rich Democrats.
Then talk about how they want to raise their own tax rates.
Rich Republicans, including Romney, want to maintain the low tax rates for themselves, and even decrease it further.

DougS
Oakley, UT

Too much time is spent on little things like money, religious affiliation, marital problems and such. Where the individual has a record to refer to, look at it carefully for consistancy with what they say. One should choose a Candidate based on integrity not advertising (paid or unpaid) I am a republican because I believe in our "Republic" as established by the Constitution. I abhor RINO'S whom I classify as wolves in sheeps clothing and basically frustrated Democrats.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

If attacks on romney's religion or money or whatever are a gift to obama...bring it on. This is the way we want to play the game, so let the money or religion be a liability instead of an asset.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

There is more to it than "Romney's money".
JFK was Catholic and had more money than Romney. Kennedy had similar "Newt Like" weaknesses.
Ok, now that is out of the way.
Why is it that voters chose Newt, rather than Mitt?

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

Back in the 70's there was group of scammers at BYU that would juggle tens of thousands of dollars on their bank cards, while depositing the money into 10% certificates of deposit. As long as they paid off the credit cards in time they could "float" the cash from the cards at zero interest. Some of them made a lot of money, but did they contribute anything useful to society? Of course not, they just found flaws in the existing system and exploited it for their own benefit.

The same argument could be made about Mitt. Sure he made a ton of cash, but did he actually create any really new jobs?
Probably not, the 100,000 job figure he uses is almost surely bogus. Companies like Staples only consolidated jobs with one company, driving many smaller office supply companies out of business while their employees lost their jobs. Plus, he even takes credit for jobs that were created after he left Bain. If Romney is going to make suspect claims about his business record he should be willing to take the hits that come from closer scrutiny.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

The World Economic Forum tried to answer the question "do private equity firms create jobs?"

Findings:
The data show some striking job changes -- at the establishment level -- in companies that undergo private equity "makeovers."

In companies that experience private equity takeovers, the World Economic Forum researchers found, the total number of jobs at inherited establishments drops substantially. These workplaces experience 7 percent more job loss than comparable workplaces at companies not involved in private equity transactions.

The jobs private equity firms do create, the researchers found, all seem to come from the new establishments they start up in the companies they take over. The private equity chieftains, the World Economic Forum study notes, create 6 percent more jobs at new establishments than other companies.

The World Economic Forum researchers, acknowledge that their analysis "has significant limitations." A "full evaluation" of the impact of private equity firms on our contemporary economic life, they note, would have to consider "a broader range of outcomes and issues" -- including the compensation for the jobs private equity groups create and destroy.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm okay with Romney being rich... my issue is that he pays the same tax rates as me so when his tax plan increases taxes on those at the bottom like me (because, though we aren't paying our fair share supposedly) and decreases it for those at the top like him (allegedly because it is burdening job creators), then I reject his tax policy argument.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Truthseeker. The answer to your question is that most conservatives know that just paying more taxes will not solve our economic problems. Cutting government spending is going have to happen like it or not.
Secondly, if rich Democrats want to pay more taxes, why don't they just go ahead and do it? Answer: because they want EVERYONE else to pay more, not themselves!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

I've said it before, I'll say it again --

Mitt Romney will undo Mitt Romney.

Enjoy the show....

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:Mountanman
We need both. Tax increases and reduced spending.
Democrats are willing to make spending cuts. Republicans are refusing to even consider tax increases. All the Republican candidates want to further reduce taxes, with the disproportionate reduction going to upper income. Essentially, they want to "double-down" on the Bush economic policies.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) rejected a Democratic offer to SLASH $3 trillion from future debts because it contained significant tax increases.
GOP negotiators offered a slimmer package of savings with virtually NO tax hikes, Boehner said the Democratic request for $1.3 trillion in new tax revenue was a non-starter.
(Oct 2011)

Mr. Bean
Salt Lake City, UT

@The Real Maverick:

"I think it shows how confused and desperate the right wing is."

I think it shows the confusion of Krauthammer.

"When campaigning against Romney, the right acts like Democrats and rant against the free market, money making, and capitalism."

They rant against Romney because of his religion. Remember, SC is in the south full of evangelicals.

"So which is it? What does the right believe?"

Simple... smaller government, jobs through corporate and individual tax breaks, balanced budget, and reduced debt.

"What do they stand for these days? Does anyone even know?"

See above.

Miss Piggie
Salt Lake City, UT

@Truthseeker:

"Why aren't Democrats demonizing Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Steve Jobs?"

Simple. Because they're not running for president.

"Rich Republicans, including Romney, want to maintain the low tax rates for themselves, and even decrease it further."

Republicans (especially Romney) want to reduce corporate taxes to encourage manufacturing businesses to return to the US.

@no fit in SG:

"Why is it that voters chose Newt, rather than Mitt?"

Religion. Have you not heard that SC is mostly evangelical who hate Romney for his religion?

@liberal larry:

"Sure he made a ton of cash, but did he actually create any really new jobs?"

Then, think if like Obama, 'created or saved' jobs. Does that help?

"Probably not, the 100,000 job figure he uses is almost surely bogus."

Companies like Staples was saved from going out of business. Once healthy, they expanded nationwide creating jobs. Same with the other businesses he saved from bankruptcy and/or extinction.

"Plus, he even takes credit for jobs that were created after he left Bain."

That's were the 'saved' comes in.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:MissPiggie
Romney is proposing permanent Bush tax cuts, repealing the estate tax, and reducing the corporate tax rate to 25%.

Individuals in the top 0.1 percent, or those making over $2.8 million, would get an income tax cut of nearly half a million dollars.

Individuals in the top one percent, or those making over $629,000, would get a cut of over $80,000.

The Tax Policy Center estimated Romney's plan would reduce federal revenues by 16% ($600 billion) in 2015.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Truthseeker | 11:06 p.m. Jan. 22, 2012
SLO, CA

No wonder the 99% can't get behind Mitt.
Like you so well explained - he is campaigning to the 1%.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Attacks on Romney's money are a gift to Obama' - Title

Yes. Yes they are.

But the Republican party has also attacked Mitt Romney's faith:

**'Fox News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 07/17/11

Romney's job creation claim:

**GOP rivals turn Romneys jobs record against him By Kasie Hunt AP Published by DSnews 01/09/2012

Romney's indecivieness:

**'Mitt Romney steers clear of Ohio health, union issues' - By Dan Sewell - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/25/11

**'Mitt Romney reverses himself, supports anti-union law' - By Philip Elliott - AP - Published by DSNews - 10/26/11

AND, Romney's money.

**'Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million' - By Ken Thomas - AP - Published by DSNews - 08/04/11

**Romney tries to sidestep tax furor he ignited By Tom Raum AP Published by DSNews 01/18/2012

I think it went:

South Carolina: Gingrich

Nebraska: Romney

Iowa: Santroum.

This is the worst Presidental Primary for the Republican party...

in history.

Showing that they are so fractured, so wrought with internal conflicts and corporate greed...

that the Republican party can no longer be trusted to lead this country.

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