Published: Saturday, Jan. 21 2012 1:00 p.m. MST
The media is at it again, with these tear stained stories about the poor
illegals. Why not a story about all the hardships they have caused because of
the wage suppression and lost jobs for the average american? Or the increased
costs of health care because of the illegals? Or the greedy americans who want
to hire the illegals instead of paying a decent wage? I dont see any of those
kinds of articles.
I am a firm believer that you need to keep state and church apart. There is also
some bible veres that state you must follow the law of the govt. and render unto
Ceaser and what is god to god. I believe that if you are here illegally, you are
breaking the law and people that helps the illegalls are breaking the law too,
furter if a church choses to break the laws they need to lose their noprofit
status and be subject to court action. There are many people waiting to come to
this country the legall way and should be given the frist shot at coming here. I
also believe that if you are here illegally, then you get none of the benifits
that legal people get no foodstamp, no medical, no schooling and no in state
tution. What you get is deported, or go to jail and then deported and not
allowed to return to this country without the proper papers and if it take 10
years to do so be it. I am tired of my money going to keep the illegals here.
Whatever happened to the notion I was taught at home and at church that if you
aren't doing anything wrong you can hold your head up high and walk through town
without fear or shame? And if you do the crime, expect to pay the consequences
sooner or later.These people are afraid for good reason; they are breaking
the law and living a lie. And they bring children into the world in the midst
of this careless lifestyle.They are no longer in control of their destiny
because they are living outside the law. Don't blame the so called
"mean-spirited" people of Alabama.And we get the message when
the Deseret News assigns two reporters to write this piece. We get the message.
We just don't buy it.
Daniel refused a government edict and chose God's higher law to continue
praying. I too choose a higher law to serve my neighbor, with or
without a green card.I sure hope God is merciful to me as I now
openly break a man made misdemeanor law.
Jonathan, there is a difference. This is not the same thing. Those that hire
illegals are paying a poor wage and then they ask the rest of us to make up for
what they are not paying. We are asked to subsidize their wages by paying for
their health care, education, rent, etc. etc. This is not charity, its a tax.
We are a nation of immigrants, whose greatness has been her people and their
willingness to unite together in the common cause of American Life, Liberty and
the Pursuit of Happiness. Today's Immigration law maybe called legal, but it is
certainly flawed and doesn't work as intended. America is at risk from such law.
It is immoral, capricious, and irrational. It needs to be fixed so people can
come to the US in an equitable and humane manner that has been America's
historical melting pot. Immigration is a key component of America's greatness
and should not be shut in some supposed legal mumbo jumbo that denies our roots.
May cooler heads prevail this year as our representatives work together to find
the best solution for instituting good immigration law. I for one hope that the
Utah Compact will continue to lead out and help our fellow states and the
federal government resolve our modern day immigration mess.
It is her right as a free thinking citizen to do what she does, but it is in no
way God's role in breaking the laws of the land. In fact, it is contrary to what
He and His Son taught. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God
that which is God's. This teary coverage does nothing the remedy or correct or
appease the citizens of the United States. Yes, we take care of our own
(questionable at times) and help the many throughout the world, but to continue
to ignore the financial abuse caused by so many who refuse to obey the laws, no.
We are done. It is time to seal the borders. It is time to take all entitlement
programs away. It is time to repeal the Dream Act. It is time to demand that
everyone must speak English in this country. There should no longer be a
bi-lingual anything. The anger expressed throughout this country increases, and
not against the 1 percentage (which I believe is a smoke screen, a diversion),
but rather should be directed against law breakers.
Those who choose to commit crimes (including violating immigration laws) suffer
consequences. Sometimes legal consequences, other times social or employment
consequences.It is disgusting that the news media refuses to stand
up for the law abiding citizens and instead choose to side with the
lawbreakers.It is fine to argue that our immigration laws should be
changed (although I believe they need enforcement rather than change) but to use
the power of the media to deceptively portray crimianls as "victims"
is unethical.Legal immigrants are a welcome asset to our great
country, but criminals are not.
It just goes to show that as illegal aliens flee Alabama, Utah the unemployment
rate is dropping for American labor--as according to several reports?
Enforcement policing protocols are having the desired effect, which proves that
state immigration laws do work if practiced and not neglected. My guess is that
although I have not heard of any similar hiring statistics in Arizona, Georgia,
South Carolina and even Utah, but it wouldnt surprise me if this news hasnt been
suppressed by the newspapers and the central government. It will be very
interesting to learn if promises are kept by the 4 remaining presidential
personages. Even Gingrichs agenda to give the long time illegal aliens some form
of pardon, without citizenship whereas, I hate to think of a returned President
Obama has in-store for the United States. Whatever his idea of enforcing
immigration laws are, it will just attract even more impoverished and criminals
to arrive via our almost unprotected border or by international jet.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who knowingly break laws. I'm sorry
I'm so hardhearted, but my family came from Europe and had to wait and wait and
even had sponsors who would pay there way and make sure they weren't a burden on
the citizens of the country. These people should have waited so they could
lawfully come into the United States. To the Latter-day Saints who encourage
this breaking of the law, the 12th Article of Faith is quoted thus: "We
believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in
obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." If I remember right this is
the very reason Wilford Woodruff announced the reason for discontinuing the
practice of plural marriage. President Woodruff did this after exhausting all
legal remedies. I will ask that Latter-day Saints who can't live by the laws
that they raise their arm to the square to, would please surrender their Temple
Recommends until they are honoring and sustaining the laws of the land and being
honest with their fellowmen.
@Mary E PettyThe law is just fine, thank you (except the chain migration
part which is not in the best interest of our nation).If indeed we had
migration at around 250,000 per year and the political will to deport that who
are not here legally, we would see:*Higher wages for those of few
skills*Lower unemployment among minorities and the poor*Less-crowded
clsasrooms*More social services available to care for our own*Safer
roads and streets*Better assimilation of our language and customsAlas, politicians and preachers are looking for more customers and playing
identity politics.The problem isn't the law; it's the pandering in
the name of power, using illegal aliens as the pawns.
Could it be the DN is publishing this tripe because the Utah Legislature is in
The bleeding never seems to stop: the bleeding heart liberals, journalists,
politicians, and ecclesiastical types who want to bleed the taxpayer and citizen
worker just a little more, and have all kinds of supposed rationale to justify
the whole scam. Real charity has nothing to do with government confiscation of
asssets and income to support those who don't want to play by the rules. It's
amazing how much trouble we're in already because of our non-enforcement of laws
already on the books, and it's equally amazing that we have so many people who
want to compound the mistakes by being even more flacid and careless. I just
wish those who advocate this stuff were the only ones paying the freight for it.
I'm afraid people in this great state and the state of Alabama are judging too
quickly. Do you know what it's like to live the life of some of these
immigrants? Have you tried legally coming to the United States from a third
world country? If anyone has, I'd love to hear your story of how difficult or
easy it was? Because at least then it'd be a credible judgement.Not
too long ago it was illegal for a black person to sit in a bus, eat at a
restaurant, etc as a white person. I believe in obeying, honoring and sustaining
the law, but I also am open minded enough to know that the laws aren't perfect.
sg, Paul Ryan presented a workable plan to ease Americans out of the entitlement
mess that the feds originally created, and Obama rejected it. Obama is our
biggest obstacle to resolving illegal immigration and entitlements. Big
government is always the problem, never the solution to any of the problems they
in the first place created. People need to quit voting for hard core liberals
at any level.
If these Churches really cared, they would be telling these people to come here
legally and to follow the laws. It would help people in the future to avoid
these problems. But none seen concerned about preventing it. This
acceptance of crime and dishonesty is destroying our country from within.
A member of my ward is 60 years old and used to be a concrete finisher. At one
point he owned his own concrete finishing business. First he was forced to give
up his business due to competition from illegal aliens. They he had to leave his
home in Reno, Nevada and move to Seattle. Illegal aliens in Reno so depressed
the wages that he could not make a living there.I obviously feel
sooooo sorry for the illegal aliens.They break into our country,
steel jobs from our children and some how I am the bad guy when I complain.
Give me a break.
Why the divide? Because Christianity inherently means believing in justice and
mercy. The problem is that many people are persuaded into a mentality that their
own God commanded against. Love thy neighbor didn't mean 'except under these
circumstances'.One cannot hold the belief that their first priority
is the family and think that the 'send them back or jail them' mentality
promotes that belief. I watch probably over 90% of drivers speed past me on the
freeway while I stay in the right lane and go the speed limit. By all means, I
don't believe in locking everyone else up. Are any of us perfectly law-abiding
citizens? Probably not. What matters isn't enforcing the law. A ruthless monarch
can enforce the law all the same. This country was founded to welcome those in
need into a free world. No matter how much people may push our laws away from
that purpose, there is no freedom in receiving help and not extending it.The most universally true rule I've been convinced of is that when you
get help you give it, to raise others up. Everyone receives help, yet far fewer
are willing to give even an ounce back.
How sad. The selfish excuse about illegals causing unemployment is purse
falacy. The sheer bigotry of many of the comments are stunning.
Ah yes bigotry is alive and well. Just ask the evangelicals who won't vote for a
candidate who is Mormon.
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