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Published: Tuesday, Jan. 17 2012 12:00 a.m. MST

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JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

"Republican rivals now allege ruthless job cutting by Bain Capital, the highly successful investment firm Romney led before entering politics."

Hmm, sounds pretty much like the type of issue that Occupy Wall Street was rallying against.

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

Very insightful! The issue with capitalism is that there are "victors and victims" -- that is, businesses are constantly competing with one another so that one comes up, usually at the expense of another (think how Apple took Sony's music and electronics business in the 2000s with the iPod and iTune replacing CDs and stereos).

What Republicans appear to not realize is that with such a capitalistic society, you need to provide people with "economic security." That is, the government must provide a security net to help those "victims" in capitalism -- e.g., workers Bain layed off when re-structuring outmoded companies.

That safety net needs to include unemployment, re-education, counceling, etc. If Republicans can reassure Americans that capitalism won't make the middle-class worker "victims" of capitalism, they can get the middle-class vote. If not, most workers who have experienced being a victim of capitalism (think, unemployed) will vote Democratic.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Conservatives understand that when the government robs Peter to pay Paul, Peter is happy but over time, the number of Pauls far exceed the number of Peters and the results are inevitably societies like Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, France and England! Liberals never understand economic realities and only blame the Peters for being greedy, selfish and uncompassionate and that the Pauls are "victims" of capitalism! Margaret Thatcher said it best; " The problem with socialism is that eventually they run out of other people's money to spend". In November, Americans will decide if we will continue to become another Greece or will we return to the values that made America the greatest, most prosperous and most generous society the world has ever seen? Sadly all the Pauls in America will vote for liberals so they can keep their entitlements that they did not earn do not deserve and that are clearly unsustainable!

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

The top earners in this country continue to complain about "redistribution of wealth"

I find it ironic that the only group that is increasing their share of the wealth is the top.

Yes, the top earners pay most of the taxes, cause they earn most of the money.

There has been a substantial "redistribution of wealth". And it has been going to the top.

Funny that when that happens, no one defines it as redistribution.

Why is that?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

In a Washington Post article, "When Romney Ran Bain Capital-his word was not his bond," the writer reports how Bain would bid for companies to buy and, when, they were the last bidder left (because they outbid everyone else), and the company books were opened, along with visits to the company site, Bain would then make a low ball offer. At that point, the owner would be stuck with a low ball offer or a devalued company if he rejected Bain's offer and started the bidding anew. The brokerage the writer worked for eventually learned to steer clear of Bain.

In the debate last night there was a discussion of Ampad, a Bain acquisition, and job loss. During Romney's tenure, Ampad went public, made several acquisitions in a short period of time and then was delisted from the Stock exchange. Within 2-3 yrs after Romney left, Ampad folded.

Vulture capitalist? Sometimes that label was appropriate.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@Joeblow. Let me attempt to answer your question. We have not had true capitalism in America for a very long time, we have had socialism forced upon us by the federal government and we can't pay for all the entitements any more! We are $15 trillion in debt trying to expand the "safety net" to catch all the people who refuse to be self reliant. Meanwhile, anyone who is successful who hires people,who invests, who pays the vast majority of taxes (nearly 50% of Americans pay no federal income taxes)who actually PRODUCE anything are punished. Instead of worrying about how you can get your hands on the money of the so called 1%, why not worry about creating some wealth of your own! America used to be a country of freedom where ANYONE could succeed, become prosperous, but now those people are demonized as being greedy.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Mitt's greatest challenge is trying to figure out which way the political winds are blowing at the moment and which tack he will steer today.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

I think that the social net for those who are out of work is help to get an education. Can the government support them somehow to go to college? Like a Perpetual Education Fund?

The solution would not be to go and get back more of the jobs that have been lost, but to educate people to be prepared for new jobs.
It isn't a quick fix, but it is something that would work in the long-term.

The Taxman
Los Angeles, CA

Consumer confidence is up. The stock market is going through the roof, and job statistics are (slowly) improving. Why would anybody want to elect an unknown (flip-flopping) commodity who only cares about profits (and not jobs) at this point?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Mitt's greatest challenge is....MITT.

The Democrats won't have to rebutt anything,
They'll skin him alive using his own words, policies, and actions.

The constant viewing and reminding of his Flip-Flopping will leave enough doubt and mistrust about the man and his Integrity and Trustworthiness.

Typical for a Republican running for office.
Sad for a Mormon.

Remember - Mitt has 25% of Republican support, of the 27% of America who are Republican.

Mc
West Jordan, UT

"The constant viewing and reminding of his Flip-Flopping..."

I hear the constant chant of "flip-flopper" but never see the evidence. Flip-flopping means to change one's views or actions back and forth. Romney made a few changes years ago, which he has explained well. There is no evidence of any change back to views of the past.

Even if you don't believe Romney has sincerely changed his view on abortion, the main issue people refer to as a flip-flop, that is your opinion, but it is not evidence that he has flip-flopped.

Those who continually apply the flip-flopper label to Romney while ignoring changes that other candidates have made in their views, have shown themselves to be either ignorant or downright dishonest.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

The problem is that there is suspicion that the business tactics used by Bain to secure and maximize inordinate profits might well have more than just healthy greed. Sure Democrats will seek to shine a light on Bain Capital, just as Romney's rival Republicans have. But it will not be an attack on capitalism per se, it will be an attack on a modern Robber Barron worthy of Teddy Roosevelt.

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Romney's greatest challenge is "TRUTHS". Please Romney, release your income tax returns. Bain Capital Owns Clear Channel (Romney Supported by Talk Show) along with Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, etc. under umbrella company that candidate Mitt Romney headed. With 238 million monthly listeners in the U.S., Clear Channel Media and Entertainment has the largest reach of any radio or television outlet in America. Clear Channel Media and Entertainment serves 150 cities through 850 owned radio stations. The company's radio stations and content can be heard on AM/FM stations, HD digital radio channels, Sirius/XM satellite, on the Internet at iHeartRadio and on the company's radio station websites, on the iHeartRadio mobile application on iPads and smartphones. The company's operations include radio broadcasting. Clear Channel Media and Entertainment is a division of CC Media Holdings, Inc. Romney and his wife had a net worth of between $190 and $250 million, most of it held in blind trusts. Where's YOUR job-creation record at your former private equity firm Bain Capital?. Why would "Supper PACs" want Mitt Romney elected?. OH I FORGOT, never bite the hand that feeds you in off shore tax safe havens, right?.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

mountainman said: We are $15 trillion in debt trying to expand the "safety net" to catch all the people who refuse to be self reliant.

Like those dang people in Iraq and Afghanistan who for ten years have been so needy, and the banks that we bailed out and the republicans who robbed peter to pay haliburtin keeping it off the books.

Turn off your radio and think about what your repeating because it's easy to see that 15 trillion never went exclusively to welfare and foodstamps or there would be no poor in America.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

Government has such a huge sense of entitlement! They think we should keep them all in luxury while they do nothing about the economy. They rob the aged while they feather their nests; they take away the rights of the poor of the people. The spoil of the poor is in their houses.

Mitt, though, is not gaining financially by his presidential bid. He's "independently" wealthy and would be even if, like Paul, he would commit to rejecting his presidential salary.

I feel Mitt is sincere in his desire for a "middle class tax break" and has expressed some concern for the retired who have been both robbed and de-funded of late. I like Mitt better than Santorum who berates the unemployed who should get a job, he says, forgetting that there aren't enough jobs for even half of them, and Gingrich who is a millionaire lobbyist who has flip flopped as much as Romney but, in Newt's case, apparently just to enrich himself.

I think there is some truth to the article though. Mitt is compassinate but I think he yet falls a little short of fully understanding the lot of the common man.

JoeBlow
Miami Area, Fl

Romney now has a new greatest challenge.

It is justifying to the public why he pays about 15% income tax and they pay more.

This will not be pretty. Nor will it sit well with anyone but the far right.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

15% ?
15% ?!!

This is NOT going to go over well.

I pay close to 27%
and
I still have house payments.
and I have 4 kids - 2 still at home, and 2 in college.

One of the 1% out-of-touch loosers.

The Taxman
Los Angeles, CA

Mc said, "Romney made a few changes years ago, which he has explained well."

Hopefully Mc was kidding. Just Sunday morning, Mitt (and his campaign) flip-flopped on whether had seen anti-Newt Gingrich super PAC ads aired on his behalf. "With regards to their ads, I haven't seen them," Romney said. Then seconds later he tripped himself up in his lie when he said "The ad I saw said that you'd been forced out of the speakership. That was correct."
After the debate, his spokesman tried to flop back by saying he hasnt seen ALL of the ads.

Just last month, Romney "made a change" on whether the decision to go into Iraq was correct.

The guy makes so many changes (past and present) that it is impossible to consider him as a steady or honest candidate.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

"I don't make "very much" money on speaking engagements, only $300,000 in 2011".

paraphrased Mitt Romney

How out of touch can you be to tell the regular guy that $300,000 isn't "very much" when it's roughly 7-8 times the median household income in this country?

Romney doesn't resonate with me.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

Mountanman says:

"...who actually PRODUCE anything are punished."

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What you don't realize is that those who PRODUCE are the worker bees, not the queen. Why shouldn't the WORKER who actually MAKES the product get part of the reward?

Why should all the reward go to the top execs?

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