The real news is that Gingrich is in 4th and Perry is in 5th. Paul and Santorum
have no staying power.The result:Mitt Romney will be the
2012 Republican nominee.
Actually, the real news is that Paul - the only guy in the field with a
consistent record of upholding the Constitution - got almost as much of the
state's caucus support as Romney. That says something. There is hope for
The big stats from the night that no one will be talking about. Ron Paul did
best among independents, the young, and those attending their first caucus. The
Republican party claims it wants to grow, and then ostracizes the one candidate
who actually brings people to the party. To reject Ron Paul and his supporters
is a mistake by the GOP establishment and it will have long term consequences.
@David KingWho said anything about rejecting Ron Paul or his
supporters. I seriously doubt Ron Paul or his supporters are going to do
anything that will purposely get Obama re-elected.
@1994"Who said anything about rejecting Ron Paul"Michele Bachmann has called him extremely dangerous. Newt Gingrich said he
wouldn't vote for him even as the nominee against Barack Obama. Pundits like
Limbaugh and Hannity have tried to paint him as fringe and racist. Just take a
look at a lot of the comments on here from conservatives and Republicans. They
deride him as "kooky", "crazy", "dangerous", and
the like. All I'm saying is if Mitt Romney is the nominee (most people would
say that is likely) and wants to win the general election, he needs to consider
extending some sort of olive branch to Ron Paul and his supporters, who make up
an important part of the Republican electorate. I'm not saying he has to make
him his VP choice or anything, just that he makes sure there is still room for
Ron Paul and the people who like him in the Republican party, or it will get
We'll gladly take this W and then blitz the competition in New Hampshire.Mitt 2012.
There is no need to paint Paul as a Kook. He does it enough by
himself. The article stated his campaign was touting the legalization of
marijuana. He sent out newsletters mentioning something about letting Iran have
nukes and not caring if the Iranians nuked Israel. He allowed his name to be
linked with some very real and over the top rasist comments. This, with a lot
of blather about ideas that not only have no traction with mainstream voters
(abolish the IRS and the Fed), but also have very little basis in reality. We
need people like Paul to make us think out of the box, but don't anybody think
that he is for real or that he can run a country or even be elected as
President. C'mon, most of his bills don't even make it out of committee because
they are so out in left field.I am not saying Ron Paul is useless, I
am saying he does not represent enough of the people to get elected. He has
great intellect (Duke University School of Medicine) but he does not have good
I hardly think 8 votes consitute a resounding win, more like a tie. If this had
been an election and not a caucus there would be a recount ordered.Maybe Jom Humtsman was the smart one to stay out of Iowa.
I foresee Santorum picking up the votes from Perry and Bachman in the near
future and emerging as the front-runner. I don't see him, however as capable of
beating Obama. I believe the only candidates who would be able to beat
Obama are Gingrich and Romney with Romney being the more likely of the two.Santorum will run a Huckabee-like campaign that will cater to the Evangelical
vote, but little else. It will be interesting to see how this plays
out. Unfortunately my Illinois vote will be pretty much washed out by the huge
Obama support here.
6 years on the road, millions invested in his campaign, and Romney gets less
votes in Iowa than last time, winning only by 8 votes. I am sure Romney is
looking forward to being done with Iowa and moving on to more friendly states.
I just worry that Romney is not going to try to our "right" Santorum.
The other issue Romney has is his core strong support group coming
out of the exit polls was white voters over 64 and that make over 100k a year.
Demographically this is not a big enough group to carry him all the way through.
Romney did poorly in the under 40 crowd, and once again this is the group that
will swing the general elections. After 6 years of running for president, it is
hard to see he will be able to change his brand significantly to attach this
group.On to New Hampshire.
SLMG - nobody said it was a "resounding" win. Facts are facts. Romney
got the "W" in Iowa.As for Huntsman - time will tell how
smart he is.
Romney is the one candidate that has the best chance at putting America back on
it's feet. Romney is the one candidate the White House is afraid of. He is the
one with the best chance at moving Obama. We cannot afford to gamble on others.
We need to take back the White House, and Romney can do it. He is organized, he
is smart, and he has what it takes.
There is real hope and optimism in America again, very much like when President
Reagan took us our contry back from the Carter debacle. Time for hope and change
is here! Americans will elect leaders who will; stop the failure of the European
style of redistribution of wealth, stop the over regulation and of businesses
and industry forcing jobs to move over seas, stop the illegal take over of our
healthcare, stop activist judges from legislating from their benches, stop the
government's out of control spending, stop the assualt on the second amendment,
stop insulting our allies and kissing the backsides of our sworn enemies, stop
the expansion of government in our lives and reinstate self reliance, hard work
and accountability! God bless this great nation! There is hope again!
In our caucus we had people that registered last night as a Republican that
voted for Obama last time by there own comments to me personally. One guy in
particular heckled me as I spoke for Mitt Romney. He was wearing a Paul sticker.
We had quite a few that registered just for this caucus that as Democrats
can do that when they don't have a caucus themselves.
Being known to Iowans for 6 years, his second time around, and being the
perceived front-runner for years now, and all that got Mitt Romney was the exact
same percentage of votes (25%) it did in 2008, and actually a few less votes
overall.The same people who voted for Mitt 4 years ago, did so last
night. While the other 75% of REPUBLICANS voted for anyone else. That is a weak front runner.Yet, Romney is the only person with a
fighting shot at Obama. And knowing that, it will be interesting to
see what true Republicans do. Stick by your guns, your morals, your
Tea-Party roots, and elect someone like Santorum, who stands a 0% chance in the
General, but at least you stand behind your guy. Or cave and elect the guy who
was as much a Democrat as as someone like Jim Mattheson, whom you all hate.Very interesting to see how this plays out.
Ron Paul is gaining momentum. People are realizing his ideas aren't crazy, but
Constitutional.As the most consistent politician, Ron Paul could
help stop the indecencies that our Constitution is going through.
Gosh, we read that Romney would come out the clear winner in Iowa. 8 vote lead?
Clear winner?Best to stay humble, Mitt. Perhaps history will record
another candidate surging ahead of Romney to win the Presidency again this time
Mitt Romney is hilarious. He offers nothing of substance or value to the regular
American person.He tosses around phrases like " I believe in
America" and other pap.He is the Kim Kardashian of politics. He
looks good, but does nothing of note, and offers nothing of any societal
value.I saw an empty limousine pull up, and Mitt Romney got out.
24 years in Congress and only 1 bill authored by Ron Paul has been passed. I personally expect more leadership for 24 years.
I wonder why the LDS are such staunch supporters of the GOP. Their values
sync up much better the the Democrats.I know that I'm not rich
enough or inane enough to vote for a Republican who does nothing but
criticizm without ever offering up any solutions.All we get are
canned phrases from that robot.God help us Americans if a
Republican, especially Romney, gets elected.
All of my voting life I never felt that my vote counted. But I had a dream that
my vote decided the election in 2012. Iâve take the necessary measures to
assure that this dream will come trueâ so candidates had better take
notes. I like both the sweater vests and Romneyâs pants and I eagerly
anticipate their debut on the clothing racks at DI and Goodwill. Romney needs
to understand, and I sometimes think he does, that opportunity without grace is
really no opportunity at all. Santorum needs to understand the dual nature of
the soul and that the rights of the rape victim and children of a mother whose
life could be saved by an abortion, are at least as important as the fetus that
may not be a life yet. Obama needs to understand that effortlessly living off
the government (labors of others) is not too far above slavery. You cannot buy
my vote for money printed by the Federal Reserve, but I may consider Ron
Paulâs gold backed dollars.
After listening to each of the candidates give their speeches last night, I
learned quite a bit about each one as they not only spoke but you could see
their body language. Some had a body language and their voice also that showed
me that in their stressful moments last night, that they might not be the best
for our country, if we have choices. Some were far from poker face as they
talked about the other candidates with disdain showing in their demeanor. This
is politics not the back room with the bad guys beating up a person that
expressed different views. This is a vetting process where we want to know all
that the person can do or maybe can't do as they will be potentially leading our
country. In the 1800s people found out about candidates good and bad, even with
the slow press methods. When the telegraph, Pony Express, mail,
intercontinental trains, and eventually the phone allowed faster news, it may
have been overcome by events. Votes were probably wasted as people didn't know
who the winner was until way after, especially with the electoral college
process. We live in a great time for knowing candidates
FDRfan - good and open minded comments. I like it.
Those who are happy about Romney probably getting the Republican nomination I
will be a good sport and tell you to enjoy it while it lasts! I say this
because you probably know in your heart that this success will not go all the
As usual, the Democrats and the Independents/Liberals waste their time
denouncing Republicans. Their worst fear is that Romney will win the Republican
nomination. They know that Mr. Obama, who has had no business experience, will
be shown for the inexperienced financial bumpkin that he is - so, instead of
trying to make us believe that Mr. Obama is good for the country, they act like
bullies on the playground and hurl insults against Romney.
Wow. 8 votes. This is with, Republicans. I wonder how
Mitt Romney will fair to win over Independants and Democrats? *'Mitt
Romney as job creator clashes with Bain record of job cuts' - By Lisa Lerer,
Bloomberg News - Published by DSNews - 07/20/11 'Employees who lost
jobs at Bain-controlled companies more than a decade ago say they still hold
Romney responsible."I would not vote for him for anything," said
Phyllis Detro, 68, who lost her job...' I look foward to 2012. Obama 2012.
Rick Santorum has the weakest resume out there, similar to Obama. Their only
experience is Washington politics. The group America says they want to
replace.Rick Perry, Jon Hunstman and Mitt Romney have super resumes
each leading billion dollar budgets and thousands of employees.While
Gingrich, Paul, and Bachmann have strong resumes as
politicians/entrepreneurs.I can't see Santorum winning this in the
If anyone looked at the rules for the Iowa caucus, they would immediately see
that anyone can vote in the Republican caucus:"Participants in
each party's caucuses must be registered with that party. Participants can
change their registration at the caucus location. Additionally, 17-year-olds can
participate, as long as they will be 18 years old by the date of the general
election."Don't think for a moment, with Mr. Obama running
unopposed in the Democrat caucus, that many "Republican" voters were
anything but Republican.
Re: Pagan | 10:01 a.m. Jan. 4, 2012 "Wow. 8 votes."An 8 vote margin is all it would take to be elected US President. With
Obamacare, the economy and the Operation Fast and Furious scandal lurking in the
wings Obama is going to be a one term president.
There is hope that America will return to the principles that made it prosper
and Romney did it all without teleprompters. He represents change we can believe
in. Thanks Iowa.
Rifleman | 10:56 a.m. Jan. 4, 2012 Salt Lake City, UtahIn a
real election instead of a caucus, 8 votes would mean an automatic vote recount
in most states. This is not anything to write home about it is more
like a tie.I believe it is a bit early in the silly season of the
primary elections to celebrate any Republican candidates chance as the candidate
to win the nomination. After all Iowa is a caucus vote not the primary
'There is hope that America will return to the principles that made it
prosper...' - Owl | 10:59 a.m. Jan. 4, 2012 Reply facts: *'Bush signs $700 billion bailout bill' - AP - Published by Denver Post - By
Tom Raum - 10/03/08 "The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and
produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.' -
George W. Bush - Ohio Speech 10/7/2002 Romney: *'GOP
contenders argue on Iran' - By Kasie Hunt - AP - Published by DSNews -
11/12/11 "If we re-elect Barack Obama, Iran will have a nuclear
weapon. And if you elect Mitt Romney, Iran will not have a nuclear weapon,"
vowed the former Massachusetts governor.' Yeah. That's
'great'. *'U.S. Military deaths in Iraq war at 4,485 - AP -
Published by the DSNews - 12/20/2011 Still waiting on that tax info
Rifleman | 10:56 a.m. *'Romney opens up a bit more to media
scrutiny' - By Charles Babington - AP - Published by DSNews - 12/07/11 'Numerous Romney supporters had expressed concern over reports of him dodging
Re: SLMG | 12:29 p.m. Jan. 4, 2012 "In a real election instead of a
caucus, 8 votes would mean an automatic vote recount in most states"Yes, you are correct. In a real election instead of a caucus, AFTER the
recount(s), an 8 vote margin is all it would take to be elected US President.
As I listened to Governor Romney last night, he mentioned this time he only had
5 staff personnel compared to 52 in 2007-8. Senator Santorum was wooed by the
evangelicals and with Perry and Bachman out, that will leave even more for the
Pennsylvanian as he moves to South Carolina and New Hampshire without very much
of an organization. I guess with Newt Gingrich's advertising he started with
the Anti-Romney newspaper in New Hampshire that he is ready to go from the hip.
I wonder if Senator Santorum really wants Newt's help.
@Rifleman: The economy? The economy is moving up, up, up. How can people
criticize Obama on that?Obamacare I could see being a point of
debate, but Romney has no room to speak against it as it closely mirrors his own
ideas.Operation Fast & Furious? Yeah, that faded from the scene
about as quickly as Vin Diesel's similarly titled movies.
Gingrich basically started writing Obama's political advertising yesterday when
he proclaimed that Romney would preside over America's economic decay. What a
horrible and shameful attack that will only serve to sabotage the Republicans if
Romney wins the nomination. Gingrich was my second choice, but he needs to man
up and respond professionally to the challenges rather than hurl such personal
and destructive bombs. And for all Gingrich's whining about
dishonest attacks, he's no more truthful in his current invective against
Romney. I guess we're now seeing Gingrich's politics of destruction that has
turned so many Republicans, not to mention Democrats, against him.
Bachman: Nice, has fairly conservative ideas but has no real leadership
experience.Huntsman: Republican-light. Verrry light. He panders
incessantly to liberals. Ashamed of his religion.Perry: not the
best communicator (though getting better) but has goofy ideas (like that it's OK
for ILLEGAL aliens to pay less college tuition than legal citizens....talk about
pandering to your constituents).Ron Paul: admirable with his strict
adherence to the Constitution but is simply unelectable because of his stance on
letting Iran getting nukes. Sheer madness.Gingrich: One angry man.
TWO-time adulterer. Accepted over $1.5M from a failed, government-backed
business that robbed American citizens of untold BILLIONS of private wealth by
NOT standing up and saying "This is stupid!" (There's NO way he REALLY
said this because if he had, he would have immediately flooded the media with
e-mail trails, letters, proof of that). Invented scorched-earth politics but
whines when others tell the truth about him. Called Romney a liar for simply
telling the truth. Wants the rules changed for him (Virginia lawsuit to get on
the ballot). Not good.Santorum: quite frankly, I don't know enough
about him. Yet.For now: Romney 2012
Gingrich will eat himself and is so far to the right that he will now be on the
left to help defeat any Republican. He just as well have a IED attached to
himself as he is so visceral. He is definitely the torch bearer for this
present administration as he has gone overboard and in waiting for the past 5
months at Tiffany's. Moral problems lead to decay in mind and spirit.
If Obama can't fix the economy, what makes anybody think a republican can? He
inherited such a big overwhelming mess three years ago, and it's impossible to
fix.Look and compare their school transcripts and you see Obama is
much smarter than Mitt, with more business experience in the private sector. If
we gave both an IQ test, Mitt would be blown away.We need another
four years of BO.
the one from his schools. Hasn't he provided them?