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  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Jan. 3, 2012 6:59 p.m.

    "Such an interesting contrast. In Oklahoma, a BCS program finishes with a 10-3 record and fans are calling for coaching and quarterback changes. Here, a 10-3 record against weaksauce is called "continued relevance"."

    Let's set a couple of things straight, SoonerUte. First, if you read the quote, it was CBS Sports that said "continuing relevance" of BYU football. Second, I don't know if you have selective memory or if you weren't here throughout the season, but fans WERE calling for coaching and quarterback changes. Some still are, in fact.

    I know that several BYU fans are disappointed in how the season went, and I'm certainly not completely satisfied with this season.

    Tell me, how thrilled are the Utes to have a 8-5 season?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:48 p.m.

    @Uteanymous says, "Can you explain how losing to a bad team makes U a good team?"

    @LonestarRunner says, "As we saw versus one of the worst teams in the country, WAC bottom dweller equivalent Colorado, Utah wouldn't have won 10 games even against BYU's "WAC schedule"."
    ***************

    I see what you're doing.

    Rather than talking about BYU's season you would rather talk about Utah v. Colorado, not only because it was the most satisfying game of the season for the Cougar Nation, but also because you would rather gloss over the WAC schedule that makes up the bulk of those 10 Cougar victories.

    And certainly you don't want to talk about a humiliating loss to Utah.

    Changing the subject is tricky... but it still doesn't can't explain how anyone could possibly be satisfied with WAC domination and humiliation at the hands of Utah.

    Well... unless your standards just aren't very high... yeah... that must be it.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 2, 2012 7:35 p.m.

    worf

    Utah lost to the 105th ranked team in country in a game the Utes were completely dominated in the first half.

    It doesn't matter how close Utah made the score at the end, the fact that U lost to a 10-loss team for the 2nd time in the last five years is humiliation enough.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 2, 2012 6:53 p.m.

    Uteanymous

    utes lost to a bad team.. 17-14

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 4:37 p.m.

    @MiP

    Those are good points, and of course the records of the 2 teams are almost exact opposites so it is easy to see how comparisons can be made. Let me tell you the differences.

    In utah's 10-3 season last year they started out 8-0 and then proceeded to get absolutely destroyed in 3 of their last 5 games, including a lopsided and embarrassing bowl loss. BYU on the otherhand started out badly and then came back to get to a bowl game, which they won convincingly. Along the way they lost to utah, barely, and utah was the beneficiary of some questionable calls to win it.

    This year BYU once again improved as the year went along, with 2 of their losses early in the season and finished up with a bowl win. utah did not start out well and did not finish well, although they did win their bowl game in improbable fashion. It isn't all that apparent that utah did improve, there isn't anything that shows they did. They pretty much seemed to end the way they started.

    That said I don't know that any of that means anything for next season.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    manaen

    Correction: get real!!!

    Season records are for the ENTIRE season, including bowls; you can spin it however you want, but the final record is the only record that counts.

    BYU 10-3
    Utah 8-5

    btw, if you want to play that game, you can add another undefeated season to BYU's record, because BYU was UNDEFEATED during the regular 1979 season.

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    Re: Sportsfanforlife

    I actually prefer to read...So you claim OU is calling for a coaching change change. I guess that is why the university gave Bob Stoops a three year contract extension at $5.25 million per year. There is no coaching change in the wind at OU, nor is one being called for by the fan base or university.

    If you reference Bobs' post bowl comments and interviews he and the university clearly state a 10 win season is great and he goes on to say there are very few teams in the country that win 10 games a year consistently. Bob also goes on to say that OU wins a NC about once every ten years, it has been 11 years since their last NC so they are due. He did not set the expectation of a NC, that was the media...not Bob, not the university, the media.

    At BYU they set high goals, to be the best...that is why they want their second NC. Goals are good.

  • manaen Buena Park, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    Correction: it was a 9-win season + 1 POST-season win = 10-win year but not a 10-win season.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:01 p.m.

    @howard

    "When you play a WAC schedule even bad teams can win 10 games."

    BYU played almost as many BCS AQ teams (4) as they played five WAC teams (5).

    As we saw versus one of the worst teams in the country, WAC bottom dweller equivalent Colorado, Utah wouldn't have won 10 games even against BYU's "WAC schedule".

    btw, no 10-win Utah team has ever played more power conference teams than BYU played this season.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:47 a.m.

    Howard S.

    "Beating bad teams does not make you a good team... and losing... to good teams does not make you a bad team."

    Can you explain how losing to a bad team makes U a good team?

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:40 a.m.

    Howard S.

    You're so delusional.

    Utah's invite to the PAC 12 had NOTHING to do with Utah's supposed superiority in football or any other sport. BYU's unwillingness to compete on Sunday, PAC 12 religious bigotry, and BYU undergraduate-focused educational excellence were the main factors in BYU not being invited to the PAC 12.

    If the PAC 12 had based its decision strictly on overall athletic excellence, decades of football excellence, and much larger national fanbase, BYU would have been chosen over Utah in a heartbeat.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:20 a.m.

    @mussingaround and phoenix

    When you play a PAC 12 schedule even good teams will have losses.

    When you play a WAC schedule even bad teams can win 10 games.

    Here is wisdom...

    Beating bad teams does not make you a good team... and losing (that means loosing for Cougar readers) to good teams does not make you a bad team.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    @phoenix

    The irrelevance of all those 10 win seasons is reflected by the fact that every major conference that has looked at BYU has taken a pass.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:29 a.m.

    Howard S.

    PAC 12 affiliation for Utah means being a bottom tier team in a division that only had two teams with winning records - pathetic!

    PAC 12 South
    USC 7-2 10-2
    UCLA 5-4 6-8
    ASU 4-5 6-7
    Utah 4-5 8-5
    Col 2-7 3-10
    Ariz 2-7 4-8

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    Howard S.

    How sad that Utah's only relevance has been reduced to Utah fans pounding their chests about bowl revenue.

    BYU's 10-win season = Top 25 Final Ranking

    Utah's 7th place PAC 12 finish = ranked below BYU even in Sagarin

    Do you really think BYU would want a humiliating loss to a 10-loss team blemishing their record?

    If the Utes couldn't win the pathetically weak PAC 12 South this year (every other team besides ineligible USC finished with a losing record), when will the Utes ever be relevant, even in their own conference?

    Face it, Utah is nothing a punching bag for the big boys of the PAC 12.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Jan. 2, 2012 10:02 a.m.

    10-win seasons

    BYU - SIXTEEN (in 87 seasons - 18%)
    1979 11-1 #13/#12
    1980 12-1 #12/#12
    1981 11-2 #13/#11
    1983 11-1 #7/#7
    1984 13-0 #1/#1
    1985 11-3 #16/#17
    1989 10-3 #22/#18
    1994 10-3 #18/#10
    1996 14-1 #5/#5
    2001 12-2 #25/#24
    2006 11-2 #16/#15
    2007 11-2 #14/#15
    2008 10-3 #25/#21
    2009 11-2 #12/#12
    2011 10-3 ?/?

    Utah - SIX (in 118 seasons - 5%)
    1994 10-2 #10/#8
    2003 10-2 #21/#21
    2004 12-0 #4/#5
    2008 13-0 #2/#4
    2009 10-3 #18/#18
    2010 10-3 unranked/#23

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    @PAC man

    7th place in the PAC = $2 million payout in the Sun Bowl against an ACC opponent...

    6-0 against the WAC = $0.6 million payout in the Armed Forces Bowl against the CUSA...

    7th place in the PAC 12 >>> 6-0 against the WAC...

    PAC 12 affiliation >>> Mid-major, non-AQ, indy, WAC scheduling irrelevance...

    Spin it anyway you like, but the Cougar Nation would trade indy for Utah's bowl game experience and conference affiliation in an instant.

    btw... Has the BIG XII called back yet... has any conference called back yet?

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:28 a.m.

    "Are there enough WAC games on BYU's 2012 schedule to ensure another 10 win season?"

    Nope, but the real question for U, are there enough Colorado's in Utah's schedule to ensure another 7th place finish in the PAC 12?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:17 a.m.

    Are there enough WAC games on BYU's 2012 schedule to ensure another 10 win season?

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 2, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    MiP

    Utah did get to 10 wins last season, but in their last 5 games, the Utes got destroyed at home by TCU 7-47, at ND, and in their bowl to BSU, and barely beat that 7-6 BYU team at home with the aid of some very questionable calls by the officials.

    It's funny how Utah fans who were thrilled with Utah's 10-win season are now ragging on BYU's 10-win season.

    If double-digit wins is such a meaningless accomplishment, why has Utah only been able to accomplish it 6 times in their entire 118 seasons of playing football?

    btw, as the game in SLC showed, by the end of the season, BYU was playing better football than Utah, but just like this year, seasons must be judged in their entirety, not by a single game.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    Jan. 2, 2012 8:12 a.m.

    I am not a big BYU football fan, but I enjoyed this bowl game against Tulsa and was not surprised with the last minute win -- despite how poorly the Cougars played on offense until that last drive.

    Nelson is an inspirational leader. Van Noy and Hoffman were terrific, and I loved the Reynolds block!

    I may just increase my interest in BYU football next year!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Jan. 2, 2012 7:24 a.m.

    "6 WAC games sure helps with that 10 win season. "

    Yep, but they beat them all. They were all the calibur of Colorado, yet still WON them all. Don't count out beating an SEC and PAC team on the road, and the defending CUSA team at home. Give BYU some credit. No one can handle the competition, just beating who is on their schedule. BYU couldn't have had a better schedule for being such a young team and doing something no one else is trying right now in the country.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 2, 2012 6:05 a.m.

    A ten win season is a solid accomplishment.

    Congrats to the Cougs.

    ====
    A quick reminder to the Y fans enamored with the double digits...the Utes got it last year, remember. They finished #23 in the coaches poll and "just outside the AP (26)and still, many Y fans on these posts thought the Y, at 7-6, was a better team.

    Just goes to show, whatever you think is true, must be true. Same for both sides. Neither is immune.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 2, 2012 12:15 a.m.

    Utes can't brag. Did they play Oregon or Stanford? No, they struggled against Washington State and lost to Colorado. Don't harp in the Wac teams.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Jan. 1, 2012 10:48 p.m.

    MacNasty might be drinking too much Kool-Aid. Have you seen the quality of the ESPN writers and analysts? They know practically nothing about football.

    Most BYU alum living in real football-playing states aren't terribly impressed with BYU's 10-win season. 10 wins with this scheudle is practically meaningless. They didn't win a single game against a top-notch opponent.

    (BYU alum, 1996)

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:50 p.m.

    our 10 win season with only 2 wins over teams with winning records shoulda gave us the nat. championship for sure... oh well the voters never get it right anyways thats why we're ranked just outside the top 25 which noone cares about except byu fans cause noone knows who we are and didnt watch our bowl game cause everyone was stilla sleep and/or at work. oh well.

    sincerely byu fan.

    LOL

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:44 p.m.

    @17-14 "No more DELUSIONAL than thinking an average team that went second fiddle to BYU in most years in both the WAC and MWC conferences would ever go anywhere in a 'big boy' conference."

    yeah super delusional since they were what a whole ONE game away? hahahah dude you byu fans are hilarious to listen to. you spin EVERY single thing you can get your words around hahaha. second fiddle? really? what exactly did byu accomplish over utah besides never bein invited to a bcs, game 7 out of the last 10 being losses, the whole series= utahs favor. second fiddle huh? wow byu fans are so clueless its ridiculous now not even funny anymore

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:43 p.m.

    @SoonerUte

    My guess is that the reason why some people might be calling for a coaches head after a 10-3 season (the same coach that won a national title in 2000) is because they MIGHT have their priorities WAAAAAY out of whack.

    Any team should be proud of a 10-3 season, whether they are in the WAC or the BIG 12 or the 'Conference of Champions' (which, incidentally, is only 1-4 in bowl games so far this year...)

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:36 p.m.

    @ btrick

    And you'd probably be OK with losing to Colorado, who hadn't won a road game in 4 years, too, wouldn't you, or a score of 0 - 27 against UNLV. Did you think Utah'd be playing in the Rose Bowl this year, too? Please explain how you can prefer to be tied for 6th in a weak conference when the schedule was greased and all you had to do to win the Southern Division was beat Colorado at home. Remember that the team that did win the division lost 50 - 0 the week before and fired their head coach. Utah's OC quit after losing to CU.

    It's ok; cheer for the Utes and pay their high ticket prices to see the home games where there are plenty of seats available. I'm sure they appreciate it.

    Let's see if the 1 - 4 PAC 12 can win their two remaining bowl games.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:25 p.m.

    @btrick

    But you're not a BYU fan. You're a utah troll.

  • btrick Farmington, Ut
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:01 p.m.

    Season of Irrelevance!!!
    Cougars have 2 wins against winning teams: Utah State and Tulsa. Yes our best win is against Utah State.

    Please get into a conference and play someone other than Bo Diddly Tech
    Please get an O.C. that has more than one year of O.C. experience
    Please pay more attention to Football than Firesides

    I am one BYU grad that would take An 8-5 season in PAC 12 over a 10 win season over a bunch of no name teams.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:51 p.m.

    Great way to end the year Cougars! Another 10 win season and likely a top 25 ranking. Say what you will about Riley but he finds a way to win, gotta love his toughness and grit.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:48 p.m.

    @ Brave Sir Robin

    Well, my idea of irrelevance is: 1) Utah being #12 of 12 (behind #11 Colorado)so the PAC 10.2 can actually hold a conference championship game after the PAC was snubbed by 5 BIG 12 teams; and 2) SDSU joining the Big East for essentially the same reason(s) when they finally were in a conference (MWC) that had lost Utah, BYU, and Boise State and so SDSU might finally win the conference championship. I guess they like the perrenial losses too much because every time they lose it is because someone else cheated or took advantage of them, etc. and they can gripe about it ad naseum.

    While I might enlighten you further, just to not disappoint Howard S. and other trolls that have already posted their poison, I'll pass on that and congratulate the Utes and the Cougars on each winning their bowl games. In this day and age of college parity (except for the mighty SEC whose ego is larger than life itself) winning any bowl game is an accomplishment.

    When was the last time you played the game? What is your definition of a "dozen?" Careful, your bias is showing.

  • Decatur Staleys New Copenhagen, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:45 p.m.

    Thank goodness for Cody Hoffman. What would BYU's record be this year without the stellar performances from Hoffman and the human highlight reel, a.k.a.KVN?

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:40 p.m.

    Uncle Rico

    Playing Colorado the day after Thanksgiving meant the Utes had over a month to rest, and they still almost lost to #50 Georgia Tech.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:35 p.m.

    indycrimson

    Your bowl game payout comparisons are meaningless.

    The real comparison:

    #42 BYU beat #29 Tulsa by 3 in regulation

    #36 Utah beat #50 Georgia Tech by 3 in OT

    net result

    #34 BYU
    #37 Utah
    #39 Tulsa
    #53 Ga Tech

    BYU finished with their 16th 10+ win season and a certain Final Top 25 ranking

    Utah won't even be mentioned in the others receiving votes

    Enjoy spending your share of that $2 million; btw, how much are you getting?

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:09 p.m.

    Great year for BYU, but winning against Idaho, Idaho State and New Mexico State, means we had 3 weeks to recover and rest.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:00 p.m.

    AF Bowl pay out 600k
    Sun pay out 2 million

    If BYU didn't go to the AF Bowl they would have taken #5 from the MWC? Wyoming? Air Force? Relevance is beautiful!!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    indycrimson

    The difference between BYU and Utah is BYU doesn't LOSE to the Colorado's on BYU's schedule. Utah is one of only a handful of teams that have lost to two or more 10+ loss teams in the last 5 years.

    Grow up with your make-believe schedules; BYU plays a schedule next year that the Utes wouldn't have a prayer of going undefeated against.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:49 p.m.

    Were probably the best 10 win team in years. We should be undefeated for shore.

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:43 p.m.

    Still second fiddle in the polls, just like old times in the WAC and MWC.

    Being in a 'big boy' conference hasn't changed a thing and BYU still gets the publicity and recognition.

    Hurts about as much as driving off a cliff against TCU last season, the Las Vegas Bowl against BSU and losing to Colorado weeks ago.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:29 p.m.

    @Brave Sir Robin,

    Read the comments from the professional sports writers my friend. Look up the sources. They know worlds more about sports than you it appears.

    Want to know what I think is irrelevant?

    For the most part, your comments and those of other trolls.

    Finally, my moniker is MacNasty, not ImNasty. I'll give you a benefit of a doubt and assume that it was a simple mistake instead of an immature and failed attempt at absurd levity.

    Shall we talk basketball now?

  • boatersteve Fruit Heights, Utah
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:20 p.m.

    Congratulations BYU. Sounds good, looks good as long as one does not dig too deep. One win against a team with a winning record, beating up on a lot of low quality teams is more cause for concern than celebration.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:06 p.m.

    @ImNasty

    "The professional sports writers know that BYU is relevant and will be for years to come."

    That's an ironic statement considering BYU just played a bowl game against a WAC and/or CUSA team (sorry, can't remember which conference Tulsa is in) at 9 a.m. on a work day that roughly a dozen people watched.

    If that's your idea of relevance, I'd hate to know what you think irrelevance is.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Jan. 1, 2012 7:00 p.m.

    BYU should go for an undefeated season next year...
    Idaho, Idaho State, SVU, Dixie State, UVU, Weber State, UNLV, New Mexico, Prarie View and Colorado School of Mines, U of Denver, U of Phoenix and LDS Business College should get you 13-0...

    That would be awesome! Then you could vote Riley Nelson into the BYU Hall of Fame and maybe give him the Byiesman Trophy? It could be a Utah county mardigra of sorts...

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 6:34 p.m.

    Sportsfanforlife

    It will always be BYU's goal to attain the highest achievement in any sport. So what, the Cougars didn't make it this year but they have in the past and that is what your team doesn't have.

    No more DELUSIONAL than thinking an average team that went second fiddle to BYU in most years in both the WAC and MWC conferences would ever go anywhere in a 'big boy' conference.

    Like U guys ever had a chance?

    AP will be out soon enough. Here's the headline for you...

    BYU AP Top 25, Utes... not so much

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 6:13 p.m.

    Will you children just grow up? Congrats BYU!

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 5:18 p.m.

    @byu fans "in contrast, utah fans were talking before the season about winning the south division title, challenging for the P12 title, winning 10+ games and dominating the P12 in their first season. instead they had a losing record in the conference in spite of being gifted with the easiest schedule."

    hahahaha yall are so annoying its crazy, you say all that about utah when before the season even started yall were claiming to have the best team ever and going to the nat championship HOW DELUSIONAL are you?

  • sportsfanforlife salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    @calicoug if you actually watched tv then you would know soonerute is right they are calling for the head coaches job watch espn first take skip bayless die hard ou fan even said it.

    "Not sure where your getting your info on OU" not sure where your getting yours, and they definitely didnt call that season a succes seeing as how they thiught by years end they would be in nat. championship but unlike byu that goal for them is realistic

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 1:22 p.m.

    Entertaining season, thanks for the effort.

  • Disgruntled Nephi, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    Yeah Howard, good thing the Cougars didn't have to play Colorado.

  • Griz Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    @fan29
    " with that schedule they should win 10 games"

    and they did win 10 games, anytime you reach 1 of your goals its something to get excited about. most detractors said byu would be lucky to win 8 games.

    in contrast, utah fans were talking before the season about winning the south division title, challenging for the P12 title, winning 10+ games and dominating the P12 in their first season. instead they had a losing record in the conference in spite of being gifted with the easiest schedule.

    meanwhile, byu lost by 1 on the road to a ranked team, lost on the road to another ranked team mainly because of 2 mishandled punts, and lost a head scratcher/ brain fart-type game
    to utah. there's a lot of positives to build on for next year.

  • fan29 Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    I don't understand all the excitement. With that schedule they should win 10 games!!!

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 1, 2012 11:27 a.m.

    Re: SoonerUte

    Not sure where your getting your info on OU, no coaching change being called for, school wants QB back for senior season. OU is calling the season a success...the contrast is your creation as both universities are calling their football season a success. Join in the love, and remember 10-3 is alway better than 8-5.

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 1, 2012 11:09 a.m.

    And 10-3 is much, much, much better than 8-5. Cougs rule!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    Such an interesting contrast. In Oklahoma, a BCS program finishes with a 10-3 record and fans are calling for coaching and quarterback changes. Here, a 10-3 record against weaksauce is called "continued relevance".

    Strength of schedule for 2012 looks like this year's schedule, so the relevance should continue even further. Woo-hoo!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:32 a.m.

    Here is what the professional sports news services are saying about BYU's 10 win season:

    "WHAT BYU WON: Their first bowl game as an independent, a final 10-3 record that cements the program's continued relevance without a conference affiliation, and a bundle of optimism entering Nelson's senior year." CBS Sports, 12/30/2011

    "The Cougars won 10 games -- their fifth 10-win season in the past six years. That has to be considered a major success in Year 1 as an independent." ESPN, 12/30/2011

    Professional sports writers recognize BYU's 10 win season as significant and also BYU's "continued relevance" as a nationally recognized football program.

    Those are the facts. No amount of spinning by the trolls and haters will change them.

    Happy New Year!

  • SCCougar LEXINGTON, SC
    Jan. 1, 2012 9:09 a.m.

    bigsamoan: let 'em spew the hate and venom. Just means they are keeping us in mind. This was a fun team to watch and looking forward to next year for even more! Go Cougs!

  • TexasCougar San Antonio, TX
    Jan. 1, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    I believe the term underclassman means a freshman or sophmore. That would make Nelson an upperclassman. It is a little thing, but I like reporters to know what they are talking about.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Jan. 1, 2012 6:47 a.m.

    Great win and an unbelievable display of gut,grit and determination on both ends of the ball. How I wished they were able to do that against Texas, Utah, and TCU. It would've silenced the haters and spared us diehard fans a lot of angst and pain from all the ridicule and hateful venom.

    Go Cougs!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 1, 2012 1:35 a.m.

    6 WAC games sure helps with that 10 win season.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Jan. 1, 2012 1:04 a.m.

    Happy New Years, Cougars! There is indeed a lot to look forward to, and a lot to accomplish. Let the ride continue~!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Dec. 31, 2011 11:14 p.m.

    FOR ALL TROLLS AND BYU HATERS:

    "WHAT BYU WON: Their first bowl game as an independent, a final 10-3 record that cements the program's continued relevance without a conference affiliation, and a bundle of optimism entering Nelson's senior year." CBS Sports, 12/30/2011

    "The Cougars won 10 games -- their fifth 10-win season in the past six years. That has to be considered a major success in Year 1 as an independent." ESPN, 12/30/11

    If you wish to be more foolish than you already are, go ahead and post your pathetic, inane, and ridiculous diatribes about how BYU and/or its 10 win season are irrelevant.

    The professional sports writers know that BYU is relevant and will be for years to come.

    Sorry trolls and haters, the BYU football team will be ranked higher in the final polls than any other Utah based team.