Published: Thursday, Dec. 29 2011 5:00 a.m. MST
There is no evidence of a personal god. There is no good reason to believe that
there is a personal god. Just as there is no evidence and no reason to believe
there are leprechauns, pixies, Santa, and the tooth fairy.
Vanka skirting the question aren't you? From your answer I take it you wont come
out definitely and say you don't believe in God am I right?
Yes, there was a comment that wrote that Thomas Jefferson was an athiest.Definition of an atheist - person who beleives that there is no God.The Commnent read "Many of us consider ourselves to fall into the
political tradition of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine and other non
belivers."By the way Thomas Jefferson was not a deist - Paine
was.Then too, Im still scrating my head over this posted comment."Atheism is not a belief it is absence of a belief Therefore it
cannot possibly require faith to believe in atheism."???????
I do not believe in god. That is what atheism means. What is your point?
Joan,Don't scratch too deep. Jefferson was definitely a deist, at
most. I repeat, nobody said Jefferson was an atheist. The quote you quoted is
referring to His POLITICAL orientation, which was similar to and consistent with
the political orientation of many other nonbelievers.As for the
"definition of an atheist", where did you get that? Wikipedia? Do you
trust definitions you get off the Internet above the word of a self-declared
atheist? Shall we trust "the definition of Mormonism" we get off the
Internet, or should we trust self-declared Mormons?Now I'm
scratching my head over why you are scratching your head. My comments so far
have been clear and accurate. What is the issue?
FYI Refer to New World Dictionary for atheist definition.Thoms
Jefferson was a long way from being a deist/agnostic as was the contentious
Thomas Paine.Jefferson admired Paine's writting skill in 'Rights of Man',
but the association between the men was not close - and Jefferson did not agree
with Paine on many points both politically and in religious beleifs.Again -highly recommended reading: Thomas Jefferson A strange Case of
Mistaken Identity Alf j. Mapp, JrAlso, a study of Thomas Jefferson
letters and papers.
Joan,I don't need to consult a dictionary to know what an atheist
is, anymore than a Mormon needs to consult a dictionary to know what a Mormon
is.I am an atheist.I have already read the book about
Thomas Jefferson you cited. It is not the authoritative work on Jefferson... not
by a long shot. And based on much better biographies and histories than that, it
is clear Jefferson was not a "believer" in any sense that would be
recognized as "Christian" today, much less any other kind of
"religious" person. Jefferson rewrote the New Testament, turning Jesus
into a mere teacher, and stripping out all the "hocus pocus" miracles
and "divine" nonsense. Jefferson included restrictions on the teaching
of religion of any kind at the University of Virginia.You are
barking up the wrong tree, my friend.
@Joan WatsonRead my second post and you will see that atheism is
more complex than the definition you find in the dictionary. If you have never
educated yourself or have educated yourself very little about atheism then you
have very little understanding of it, especially if you have never questioned
your own religious beliefs and not looked beyond them. I believe questioning and
learning about all beliefs whether religious or non-religious is important
because if you never have....how do you have all the information you can to make
an informed choice or decision? I learned about religion and atheism as well as
many other beliefs before making a final choice....have you? It is better to
find your own answers and make an educated decision, than to intentionally
remain uneducated and make a fearful one.I cant disprove
leprechauns, smurfs, or anything that I dont first have proof of in the first
place. You can only disprove something by showing how the proof of it is not
valid. Religious beliefs so-called proofs can easily be invalidated or explained
naturally. Religion requires belief in something that in no way can be proven to
To Vanka the AtheistI want to hear your answer to the next question.
Where did all the matter that makes up the universe come from? You are either
stuck with the absurdity that something can come from nothing or you are
actually where any person ulitimately finds themselves, agnostisism. No one can
be a 100% atheist. To be such one would have to "know" there is no
creator, prime mover, intelligent designer, ect. You don't know that, nor does
anyone else. You may say I don't know there is a God, but I do know that there
is matter that causes life and existence. My God explains that, your atheism
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