Weber wins the OQUIRRH BUCKET!Weber 3-1 beat usu wins tieusu
3-1byu 2-1utah 0-2
Although Utah will not be playing Weber any time soon, they will be playing in
Ogden as they have a home and home contract with Mt. Ogden Junior High...so they
will be in Ogden...Bye and Bye...Hyrum Junior High in the Logan area
is now negotating a home and home with Utah...so even though they will not be
playing Utah State, they will be seen in the Logan Valley...Yet,
Utah is setting themselves up for failure with such a tough schedule.
@Jeff IsGREAT IDEA@kokuaUtah and Colorado
were on the expansion list of then the PAC-8 and the PAC-10, I'm sure back
before you were even born. And it's not just because of athletics, Utah and
Colorado are excellent research institutions. You would be suprised the kind of
money that has come in to the U for other departments. The two schools were on
the list from the very start.@EdGradyFor what Chris Hill
has done for not only the U but the entire state of Utah that statement shows a
whole lot of respect. Do you still get payed for the job you do?@jack-kuruYou're just like the duck man, something must have
happened to you to be so mean when it comes to the U. People can tell when your
just having fun and the hatred that you show.@DutchmanI
agree with you, I think all things Utah should be suspended. Utah does
something for the best interest of the school and now we are afraid of everyone
else in the state. People just don't understand. What a pitty it could be so
fun, the hatred is sickening.
Alright, folks. This is how you make the schedule with the 4 main schools in
Utah. Weber St, Utah St., Utah, and BYU. When the Jazz have that eastern road
swing in December you have a 2 day round robin tournament at the ESA. It is
billed as a Christmas Charity Tournament. You find out the morning of the first
games who you play. There are 4 lottery balls and the first two drawn out of the
basket play the first game that evening. The next two drawn play in the second
game. Winners play winners the next night and the loosers play each other. The
benefits are. Charity event. Guaranteed sell out. A food donation and a ticket
are required to get in. No home court advantage for anyone. Don't know the
schedule so anticipation would be sky high. This little game of my house is
bigger than your house is getting way over blown. Come on ESAa and the Jazz
organization, make this happen.Jeff
Is Chris Hill still drawing a pay check from the UofU coffers?
NightOwlAmericaThe article was about Weber St. and Utah of the PAC-12, not
BYU. You're a bit defensive, but it's interesting that the Cougars are always on
your mind. BYU fans are impressed.
I don't blame Utah for not wanting to play any of the in-state rivals. Those are
guaranteed losses every year, so why mess with them? bwahahaha
utah will be fine, give Coach Kry some time to put his program in place and they
will do well in the PAC 10.2. Sorry to read they do not want to schedule games
with the other public universities that are supported by the state. Hope the
state congress makes funding from the state conditional upon scheduling
in-state rivals. Don't schedule USU in football, lose 10% of your state funds.
Don't schedule USU of WSU in basketball, lose another 10% per school in funding.
Games should be a home & home format. What the u doesn't want in state
funds, send it to WSU and USU. As matter of fact, the u should schedule Dixie
and SUU in basketball...same rules apply.
If the Utes ever want to be respected again in their home state they're going to
have to man up and play BYU, Utah State, and Weber State home-and-home just like
they used or all of their boasting about being in a superior conference will be
I think it is blatantly obvious that Utah completely lucked out when they were
asked to join the PAC 12 and become part of there mighty southern conference.
The Utes basketball program is just plain horrible. It will be a
huge up hill battle to sell Utah's program when they are routed by all the in
state schools. It appears the shine has been knocked off the PAC 12 penny.
C'mon Larry ... man up! I was starting to become a fan due to the excellent
interview that you gave to the D-News. But refusing to schedule Weber and Utah
State shows a definite lack of class. Do what's best for basketball in the
State. Your struggling little band needs all the goodwill and karma that it can
Yeah, I remember USA....lost to asu ....who got drilled by Boise State...
The Deseret News would be smart to just suspend all comments on Ute Basketball
for three years. Come back in three years and we can begin honest evaluations
of the program. The comments now are the same and mostly from the same people
on every Ute b-ball article. It is getting rather boring. Ute fans get the
picture and it isn't pretty.
bookonwomenaha ur correct I did not take the AP into account, I'm
big enough to say I stand corrected. carry on.
I don't care to see the Utes win any more than any other non-Ute fan, but it
would be nice if we remembered civility even though we can hide our identities
in the comments section. Remember that the Utes players are young men that go
out and give it their best shot. There is no reason to disrespect their effort
just because they may be from a rival school.On another note, I hope
they continue playing instate games. I think it makes for more entertaining
@jarka-rus "Okay you got Stanford and Oregon yes, HUH? USC ranked in
the top 6???"The AP Top 25 #1 LSU, #2 Bama #3 Ok St. #4 Stan,
#5 USC #6 OregonOther polls didn't rank USC b/c of post season ban.
The AP ranks the best 25 regardless.USC won at Oregon and finished
with a 10-2 record, so why wouldn't they be up there? Many sports national media
thought USC was playing as good as anybody in the country.
It looks like tattoos better equip Wildcat athletes than Ute athletes. Good
luck, tattoo U with the rest of your schedule. Maybe the other teams will have
less tattoos, or those tattoos will be less talented than Ute tattoos, but
somehow I rather doubt it.
@xert"University of Utah--who (bet the house on this) will
surely "return" to the Final Four once more, before any other college
team in the state of Utah ever makes it's "first trip," to that
hallowed place. Book it."Bold talk for a program that is
currently ranked 325th out of 345 D1 programs.Maybe U should first
try finishing with a winning record for a change - something that has seldom
happened on the hill since sweaterman left.
@bookonwomenWeber State's three losses all came on the road. They
were tied with St. Mary's until 7 minutes left in the game--the score wasn't
indicative of the game. I wouldn't just wave them off because they play tough
competition on the road, unlike some teams. It will be interesting to see how
BYU plays Gonzaga or St. Marys on the road.BYU played two true road
games (U of U and USU), the rest neutral site games. USU is a tough place to
play, but Denver (also a good team) beat them in Logan this year by 13, so I
wouldn't hang up the WCC championship banner just yet. I think BYU will drop
3-4 conference games and have to win the tournament to get to the Tourney--which
they have a good shot. Welcome to life in a "small" conference.
@nightowlTom in CA didn't mention the WAC at all. You did.He said "inferior conferences" but I didn't read "WAC"
anywhere but your quote criticizing him for saying "WAC". So you
simply made something up and then criticized him for something you made up. That
xertDon't kid yourself - nobody is jealous of conference bottom
dwellers, regardless a which conference they paper the floor of.
I didn't think that the utes would be able to compete in the pac but this is
crazy! They can't compete anywhere in D1!
xertlol, wow really splitting hairs aren't ya? And now "book
it" is the new "mark it down". sweet.
bookonwomenOkay you got Stanford and Oregon yes, HUH? USC ranked in
the top 6??? And in what poll would this be? You have some secret poll none of
us know about? Good job, you have two strong teams in the top 10, we all agree
on that, after that EVERY other team is mediocre to pathetic. No way to spin it.
The quotes in this article make it sound like Krysco is afraid to play the
Wildcats. If that is the case he is the wrong coach to build the program. A
winner is not afraid of competition and in fact seeks it. That is what makes a
Tough loss to a tough time, in tough times. Things will get better. What's so
telling about this post, is the number of people who seem incredibly jealous
that the Utes are in the Pac 12 (it's not called the PAC folks, even for
short--PAC would imply something like "Pacific Athletic
Conference.")-It simply oozes off of this thread. Well, they are there
folks. Your team isn't and it hurts. Obviously much more than this little blip
on the basketball history of the University of Utah--who (bet the house on this)
will surely "return" to the Final Four once more, before any other
college team in the state of Utah ever makes it's "first trip," to
that hallowed place. Book it.
The pac has fallen on hard times beginning with their inability to get the Big
12 teams to shift conferences. Scott panicked and grabbed anything available,
which turned out to be utah and colorado. Both poor choices from a sports and
PR standpoint. Now the once and former Conference of champions is so watered
down that they aren't reaspectable...Evidence the embarrassing
beatdown of asu by Boise State last night and the drubbing of utah by Weber
State. Scott and his conference have a contract for now but with the product
they have don't expect it to be renewed! EMBARRASSING!!
Nightgownhaha, yep after the bowl dust settles, try spinning the
"Pac dominance theory" for all of us, please. Love hearing these
fantasy tales of how the Pac has beaten every top 5 team by 50 points week in
and week out. sorry your conference isn't living up to all the hype. Better luck
next year I guess.
@ExecutorIoh "Pac-12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country, in
both football" Pac-12 football has 3 teams ranked in the top 6
(USC, Oregon, Stan.) Get a Clue!I like Weber St., but the fact is
when they played great teams this year, they got blown out(BYU by 28, Cal by 20,
St. Marys by 17.)
NightOwlAmerica#31 BYU (top 10%) has won nearly 80% of its games
during the Dave Rose era#325 Utah (bottom 10%) has won less than 50% of
its games during the same periodSpin it however makes you feel
better about yourself, but bottom line, BYU is now a far superior basketball
program compared to Utah, regardless of conference affiliation.
NOAWhat a sorry excuse for a once decent basketball program to hide
behind the skirts of the so called "conference of champions".The truth is, the Utes are scared to death to play any of the other in-state
ExecutorIoh said:"I think you can make the argument that the
Pac-12 is one of the weakest conferences in the country, in both football and
basketball. Outside of Oregon and Stanford (who are both not favored in their
bowl games) the rest of the conference couldn't hold their own in the WAC. It is
clear that the MWC is far better than the Pac-? in basketball and has been for
years. If you take the makeup off, the Pac-12 is really the ugly step-sister of
all the athletic conferences."Interesting that you left the WCC
out, which is currently ranked lower than the Pac 12 in basketball.
4601 said:"Tsk, tsk, tsk. The Conference of Champions
indeed."Thank you for carrying on the tradition of BYU fans.
Complain about something you don't have.
Tom in CA said:"utah has gotten so good, they probably will
scratch BYU off their schedule. Why play a WCC team when you're in the mighty
pac-10.2Last night the conference of champs got royally whipped in
both football and basketball by inferior conferences. Sad."Really? Last night I watched Boise St. play ASU. What game did you watch?I don't recall a game between the WAC and Pac 12.
Of course their scheduling "philosphy" is going to change. They want
to schedule teams they can beat! Anybody got the number for Multi-directional
State College of the Nuns?
I think you can make the argument that the Pac-12 is one of the weakest
conferences in the country, in both football and basketball. Outside of Oregon
and Stanford (who are both not favored in their bowl games) the rest of the
conference couldn't hold their own in the WAC. It is clear that the MWC is far
better than the Pac-? in basketball and has been for years. If you take the
makeup off, the Pac-12 is really the ugly step-sister of all the athletic
Krystkoiak said "I don't care where I'm at, I'm not a big fan of playing
Weber," Yeah and I can only imagine why. Only 1/3 of the way through your
first season and you are chickening out of in-state schools.The U
turns chicken and tries to hide under the banner of the PAC 10 + 2 The U is in
the "mighty" PAC 10 + 2 yet they are afraid to play Weber. I thought
the U mascot was a red tailed hawk. Now I'm finding out it really is a red
chicken like my grandma used to have - on the positive side such chickens do lay
beautiful, delicious tasting brown eggs.
Ev Vogue said it best"Back to life, Back to reality"
"Back from fantasy yeah" Resurgent Utes,ahhahahahaha.
The whole reason that the u is not going to play the likes of Weber State, USU,
and try to scratch off BYU is that they do not want people to say that they are
the worst team in the State. By not playing any of those teams then you can
debate it back and forth, but if you play them and then lose to all of them,
there is no doubt that you are the worst and then there goes all the recruiting
not only in the State, but everywhere else that the other schools are recruiting
Why not schedule Weber St.? In the preseason one does not schedule teams from
So much for the "surging" Utes. For this Utah team, 3 wins against
teams from the bottom of the barrel IS something to be proud of. At least they
can't lay claim to the worst D-1 team in America. Maybe next year.Enjoy your three wins this year Utah.
The rundown Utes are the laughing stock of the state; they'd have a tough time
beating the other team on the hill -- East HS.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. The Conference of Champions indeed.
have the red rocks started their season yet?
No surprise here.Pac chumpions indeed.ASU gets destroyed
in the Vegas bowl. What a joke of a conference.
Whats laughable is that fans with little knowledge of things that have
transpired at Utah are still bagging on them. Have it your way, but remember
Utah is playing a really bad hand and its not like they can bluff their way to
wins.As for Utah needing to recruit east coast players because they
apparently can't recruit locally now. If I remember right, Jordan Loveridge, the
states best player recruited by every in state team and a handful of PAC 12
teams chose the Utes. He's a stud athlete that will be a 4-year starter in
hoops.As for other recruits, Josh Hearlihy, a 6-7 all purpose player
out of SoCal chose Utah over Stanford, USC, SDSU, and other PAC 12 schools.
Larry Krytkowiak will have this ship turned around, just not this year.
Basketball unlike football doesn't take a decade to turn around. Krystko seems
to be a great coach to me although you'd never know this year playing with
unrecruited JuCo guys who don't belong in D1 basketball.Yeah, I'd
like to see Utah play Weber and Utah State every year, but please don't get so
excited about beating the worst UofU basketball team in school history when
you've won 1 in the last 10, now 2 in a 11. If I remember right, when Utah was
just bad which is an improvement over this team, you couldn't beat Utah. USU
couldn't beat Utah at the HC. I hope they start playing again, but Utah's
schedule is a little more unique now as they can only schedule no more than 8
out of conference teams. With pre-season tournaments always in the mix it
doesn't leave many openings on the schedule. Has nothing to do with being scared
of Weber or Logan. Go Ute's
utah has gotten so good, they probably will scratch BYU off their schedule. Why
play a WCC team when you're in the mighty pac-10.2Last night the
conference of champs got royally whipped in both football and basketball by
inferior conferences. Sad.
What a crock. I thought all these 'power' conferences scheduled teams from the
Big Sky and Big West and WCC in order to get ready for their conference
schedules?What could be better than doing that with in-state
teams?Of course,if it was a gimme win then it would be easier to schedule
them, right?You don't get better by scheduling gimme wins left and
right, you have to schedule teams that will challenge you. Utah will not be the
worst team in Utah or most of the country forever and Coach K2 needs to realize
@Lifelong Republican (first mistake)I know what you are getting at:
Utah and the mighty PAC-12. However, I wouldn't be knocking the Big Sky. The
WCC was a one-bid conference last year and will be again this year unless
Gonzaga loses in the tournament. BYU's close losss to Baylor was still a loss.
Oregon at the Delta Center--meh. You're in the same boat now since BYU left the
MWC--need to win the conference tournament or play in the NIT or other
tournament.Things aren't good for Utah right now: clearly. At
least they stepped up their game. BYU turtled when they could have joined the
Big 12 or Big East and hid behind a TV deal that no other team belonging to a
conference would have. Basically, they like playing down in basketball and
cherry-picking their schedule in football. Don't pretend it is better.Good luck to all the instate teams the rest of the way, and GO WILDCATS!
conference of pansiesIt's laughable that the Utes think they're too
good to play Utah State or Weber State anymore.
Why not keep putting WSU on the schedule? What philosophy could Utah have not
to schedule local teams that they have played for years, decades? With zero
success in the pac 12, have the utes suddenly become to good for everybody in
Utah?Utah is acting like the little brother who accidently got rich
and suddenly is to good for his own family. I would really like Utah to explain
this "philosophy" why Weber can't be scheduled anymore or USU for that
Weber is a really good team and they have the best player in the State.Utah should not be embarrassed about losing to Weber, but they should be
embarrassed about their gutless efforts and lack of teamwork. This year's team
would have issues in Division III.Utes kick it in gear and show that
you belong in the PAC-12!
Great game Utes! Awesome to be in the Conference of Champions, you're
This does not seem possible. Utah is in the PAC 12 now. They are too big and
mighty to loose to anyone. I wonder how many Utes attended the game? It
certainly would be foolish for any local talent to select Utah. They will be
recruiting only eastern "athletes" to play from now on.
Losing is one thing, but not playing Weber State when you have other cupcakes on
your schedule year in and year out is another. What's the problem here, Utah?
Congrats on that 3-0 lead utes!
Ouch.Put up Big Sky banners throughout the city! Every bit of fan
gear MUST have the Big Sky logo on it! Go Big Sky. Conference of real
Champions!Hilarious to see how the once decent utes have fallen into
the abyss. It is going to take YEARS for them to climb out of this mess.Can you say LAST place?