Comments about ‘Marriage rates may be falling but it's still "most beautiful thing"’

'When she finally got married at 44, she didn't feel a particular need to get a piece of paper from City Hall.' - Article

But she did.

She factually 'got' that 'peice of paper' for, probably around $75. At, city hall.

It's entertaining to watch conservatives try to claim marriage rights are 'not' all that important...

when they get them, in any heterosexual, monogamys, marriage.

Isn't that like 'Well, I don't really WANT the 1100+ right of marriage...
but ok!

It is a contradiction.

Marriage IS a beautiful thing:

*'Marriage an important key to avoiding poverty' - By Jennifer A. Marshall, The Heritage Foundation - Published by DSnews - 10/17/10

It is proven to give persons more financial and emotional support, extend lifespans, and bring us closer as a society.

How sad then, that some work to factually DENY marriage, to some Americans.

*'LDS Church's in-kind donations to Prop. 8 total $190K' - By Lynn Arave - By Dsnews - 02/03/09

'Proposition 8 was a ballot measure in California last November that changed the state constitution to restrict the definition of marriage to opposite-sex couples and eliminated same-sex couples' right to marry.'

@Pagan Huh??

Like everything in life, the quality of our marriage is a reflection of ourselves: good or bad! No where in life is it more important to invest the best of ourselves, than in marriage and family. No where in life is our character, our integrity and our attitudes manifest more than in marriage! Marriage doesn't define our character, it reveals it! The reason so many people are not bothering to get married is because of their character or lack of it!

'The reason so many people are not bothering to get married is because of their character or lack of it!' - Mountanman | 7:52 a.m. Dec. 23, 2011

*'Amendment 3' - Published by DSNews - 09/27/2004

(1) Marriage consists only of the legal union between a man and a woman.

(2) No other domestic union, however denominated, may be recognized as a marriage or given the same or substantially equivalent legal effect.' - Article

Or, someone creates legislation targeting a minority. Factually changing marriage TO 'one man one woman' FROM...

'two people.'

Or that.

What is sad here is, that "The most beautiful thing" is denied to a large segment of the population.

@ Mountanman

I agree with your statement about marriage being a medium to reveal the true self.

I disagree, however, with your declaration :" The reason so many people are not bothering to get married is because of their character or lack of it!"

Well, is not that simple. As Pagan brought to our attention, there are socio-political movements, usually based on religion to curtail the privilege and civil right of certain citizen of entering in this convenant of marriage.

Very nice article, and although I knew already that traditional marriage and a traditional family are on the wane in America, it's sad to see numerical evidence of it.

The family is, I believe, the foundation of our society, and without it, our society will eventually fail. As far as same-sex marriage, the prophets, both ancient and modern, have spoken clearly on the subject, and those of us that have faith in the Creator do not take the admonitions they proffer lightly.

I have grown to truly appreciate the importance of the scriptures in today's world. Without them, I along with my family, would very likely be (in the words of the apostle Paul) 'tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive'.

'As far as same-sex marriage, the prophets, both ancient and modern, have spoken clearly on the subject, and those of us that have faith in the Creator do not take the admonitions they proffer lightly.' - TheWalker | 9:14 a.m. Dec. 23, 2011

It is not my intent to diminish your belief, but there is a simple solution to this.

If you don't like same-sex marriage, don't have one. - Whoopi Goldberg.

Those of you that have faith, great! It is yours.

It is not yours to force on others, against their will.

I hope you have a wonderful Holiday.

At Pagan; We know... We know that you are the voice of the LGTB movement.I do appreciate the fact that is much acrimony on the subject, however in my dealings with the gay community)I have family members and friends as well as co workers who are gay by the way, nor do I have a problem with that)I have observed that the matter is as much about sticking to the straights as much as a civil rights issue.I for one am of the opinion that a sort of system should be adopted here in America similar to those in Europe where marriage involves both a civil and if desired a religeous one. Please know that I have nothing against the LGTB community even though I feel I don't understand this lifestyle--it's your choice and I respect that All I ask that it be recipricated.

'...it's your choice and I respect that All I ask that it be recipricated.' - twinkleberry67 | 12:51 p.m. Dec. 23, 2011

Respect, is a two way street.

Do not ASK for respect...

*'LDS Church's in-kind donations to Prop. 8 total $190K' - By Lynn Arave - By Dsnews - 02/03/09

'The reason so many people are not bothering to get married is because of their character or lack of it!' - Mountanman | 7:52 a.m. Dec. 23, 2011

*'Amendment 3' - Published by DSNews - 09/27/2004

when your side gives none.

Also, what 'disrespect' have I given, you?
How am I affecting YOUR life?

*After 5 Years of Legal Gay Marriage, Massachusetts still has the lowest state divorce rate.' - Bruce Wilson - AlterNet - 08/24/09

Answer: I have not brought harm, or intend any disrespect to your life.

I support your ability to believe, and defend those who do from insult. I factually SHOW, the respect you speak of.

It's about time it became a two way street.

To Pagan,
I do not know you as a person nor do I profess to know your identity. I am commenting in general terms to the fact that I have encountered more often than not, members of the gay community who were determined to stick it to any straight they could regardless of the fact they had nothing to do with any ill treatment. Sure, I am fully aware that bigotry perpetuates itself in both directions and I refuse to pass it on and I will defend myself if I am hit with something I had nothing to do with. Really, if you are happy and fulfilled with your life --good for you. With all due respect, it might be helpful to tell us what you think and why, instead of quoting a laundry list of what everyone else is saying on the subject. Tell us what makes you so passionate about your views. I admire passion in people because it can move people to do great things. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

To Pagan

In the case of same-sex marriage, once legalized, would affect me, my family, and my freedom of religion. As seen already in other states where SSM is legal, the freedom to express an opposition to it is countered with the power of the state.

This is not simply a case of live and let live. It boils down to the religious freedoms of the vast majority of Americans vs the civil liberties of a few. Moreover, I believe, along with the majority of my fellow citizens, that this country was founded upon religious principles, and once we leave that foundation, we risk the same consequences that have come upon other nations that have rejected their Creator.

Walker, I agree with you. Like I said before, I will live and let live just fine, but I will not sacrifice my civil rights in a futile effort to placate. Yes these individuals are human beings and deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, but if they are always going to have these perceptions of being insulted no matter how they are treated, What can one do but try to be as cordial as possible and know the hissy fits are comming no matter what.