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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 21 2011 8:39 p.m. MST

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So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

RE: Y Grad Pumping Gas "The benefit is that he gets some really neat T shirts with cool slogans on them." Love it! Seriously, thanks for putting a smile on my face. Very funny.

IDC
Boise, ID

Lark will likely get a shot before his career is over. Nelson is likely to get hurt at some point. Lark's perseverence will serve him well throughout his life.

Merry Christmas to all of the ankle biting trolls and bitter BYU-haters. I hope you can find some Christmas joy and something to cheer for other than others misfortune and pain.

Golf33
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Jake Heaps could have learned a lesson or two from James Lark.

Ballfan6
Salt Lake City, UT

Hats of to Lark. He sounds like an absolute stud. Maybe jake could have learned a little from these two vet qb's.. I wish Lark would get a chance and do well, because it sounds like he deserves it. I know the "best" player plays and i'm not wishing anything on Riley. I wish them all the best. This article just makes my heart go out to Lark.

USAlover
Salt Lake City, UT

I love when Ute fans get jealous of BYU's multiple QB options. It only reminds them of the hack jobs they have currently.

Luv 2 Troll U
Sandy, UT

USAlover | 11:26 a.m. Dec. 22, 2011
Salt Lake City, UT

"I love when Ute fans get jealous of BYU's multiple QB options. It only reminds them of the hack jobs they have currently.
Recommend"

Well, it's fine with me considering the fact that my Utes have recruited fairly decent QB's without a lot of hype and still stick if to little brother 7 out of the last 10 and the last game 54-10. I'm still a happy camper. Apparently QB's aren't what make a team great....

bballjunkie
Pleasant Grove, UT

Golf33

He learned a great lesson from Kavengia, Unga, Hall, and many, many others who left a school they felt they were not developing at or playing and find one that would be a better fit for him. Y fan needs to back off Heaps he has every right to bail on the Y and this coaching staff (and fans) to go find a school that will help him develope and play. Y fan needs to quit being critical of Heaps for doing what so many have done to other schools and leave them and go to the Y. But typical Y fan doesn't see it that way.lol

CT98
Saint George, UT

RE USAlover:

You must have forgotten what happened in September when those "Hack Jobs" beat down our beloved Cougars. I realize the Utes may not have the best QBs but I can't stand my fellow BYU fans who are condescending after a thourough thumping.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

@Y Grad Pumping Gas

You said - "Waist of talent, hope he didn't have aspirations beyond college. The benefit is that he gets some really neat T shirts with cool slogans on them."

1. The success of a college football player is not always measured by whether or not he makes it to the NFL. If Lark had a super big ego and thought he was the next Brett Favre, he would have bolted from BYU a long time ago.

2. The benefit is also he will receive a college education, so he doesn't end up spending his whole life pumping gas.

Portland Beavers
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

That was a nice read for me about this kid. I love how the ducky and USAlover made it into a Utah BYU thing. The Y has had some great QB's and I got to watch them all kick my Utes. There has been no one that I have seen that had the touch of McMaghn, no who could escape like S Young, and no one that had the control like Dettmier. But guys it's getting old, yes we had a rough go this year, but in all for the last 10-15 years we have had a good QB (one first founder, first pick).

I have no idea how you two got to make this a U vs Y thing except I do know that at least one of you is so obsessed with what Utah does it's funny (here's a clue "LOL"). I read all the comments, didn't see one Ute fan degrade this kid at all. Heck, I hope he gets a chance it's sounds like you would be a better team with this guy.

Merry Christmas

pleblian
salt lake city, utah

For all those who claim that Lark would be starting somewhere else...please see closed BYU file labelled: "Heaps". Nothing is certain.

As a huge Nelson fan, even I would LOVE to see Lark play. I suspect BYU wouldn't miss a beat, but would march to a different one. Under Lark's arm strength and height, the offense could be a bit more conventional. Lark is the strongest BYU qb, better arm than Nelson (and I think Nelson's arm is just fine-look at completion percentage), better legs than Heaps. He just hasn't had his shot.

Nelson is likely to be injured because of how he plays. Lark will get his chance. Lark has the physique to consider the next level. If he has been doing his homework on the bench, BYUs offensive schemes will have prepped him for a shot at the NFL.

Thidder
MAPLETON, UT

Any quarterback needs to decide which is more important:playing a reasonable amount of time; or getting a quality education in the likelihood of never getting to play.

The risk is selecting the wrong school where both options are unavailable. Unfortunately this is what occurs at BYU every year. Any player with great potential but coming into a program like BYU needs to think twice. IF leaving with only a new bride is all to show for four years, then it is a long cold experience.

ClarkHippo
Tooele, UT

In 2000, when Brandon Doman was a junior at BYU, he started the season third string. After the first and second string QBs suffered season ending injuries, he stepped in and played good enough ant the end of 2000 to be named the starting QB in 2001. After 2001, he was drafted by the 49ers.

On the flip side, in 1988, Sean Covey was the starting QB for BYU, but suffered a late season injury and in stepped Ty Detmer.

Covey spent 1989, his senior year, as Detmer's backup, and ended up only playing in the fourth quarter of games in which BYU was already way ahead.

Doman was patient, waited for his chance and when he got it, he made the most of it.

Covey lost his chance, mostly through no fault of his own, but during a speech I heard LaVell Edwards make several years ago, he said Covey showed tremendous character in accepting his new position as Detmer's backup and LaVell said he has never forgotten it.

Who know what will happen in 2012, but just from reading this article, I can see James Lark has tremendous character, just like Sean Covey. And if he gets a chance to start like Brandon Doman did, who knows?

Barney Google
Beaver, UT

@ClarkHippo

"2. The benefit is also he will receive a college education, so he doesn't end up spending his whole life pumping gas."

Touché

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Thidder | 12:54 p.m. Dec. 22, 2011
MAPLETON, UT

"Any quarterback needs to decide which is more important:playing a reasonable amount of time; or getting a quality education in the likelihood of never getting to play.

The risk is selecting the wrong school where both options are unavailable. Unfortunately this is what occurs at BYU every year."

Really? More so than anywhere else?

I don't think so.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

Y Grad Pumping Gas | 5:59 a.m. Dec. 22, 2011:
"Waist of talent"

Juvenile Ute trolls who don't know how to spell will never be mistaken for BYU alums. They only embarass themselves.

I'm hoping our young coaching staff never has to learn the Heaps lesson again. No one should come aboard feeling entitled. If some hotshot legend in his own mind wants some specal deal to sign for BYU, he can go get that deal somewhere else.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

USAlover:

"I love when Ute fans get jealous of BYU's multiple QB options. It only reminds them of the hack jobs they have currently."

If you were to combine the career performances of Heaps (So.), Nelson (Jr.), Lark (Jr.), and Munns (So.), they would have completed 493 of 656 passes for 5,293 yds and 34-TDs.

If you were to do so similarly with Wynn (Jr.), Hays (Jr.), Robles (So.), and Shreve (Fr.), they would have completed 461 OF 779 passes for 5,656 yds and 40-TDs. And OUR signal callers didn't get to pad our stats with as many WAC teams as YOUR guys did.

Heaps and Munns each have 2-yrs in the cougars' system; Nelson and Lark each have 3. That's an aggregate of 10-yrs. Conversely, with Wynn's 3-yrs, Robles 2, and Hays and Shreve's 1, they aggregate to 7. Nevertheless, Utah's QBs have collectively thrown for over 360 more yards, and 7 more TDs. Admittedly, our QB situation is far from ideal, but if you're going to go out and label Utah's field generals as "hack jobs", and they've outperformed yours, please remind us again of what it is that the Y possesses that we should be so "jealous" of.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@beav

When a known ute troll comes onto a BYU article with the intention of getting a dig in on BYU then he is the one starting the BYU/utah "thing". Just because he doesn't mention utah by name doesn't mean we don't know who he is and what he is trying to accomplish based on past transgressions. Of course you would never even know it occured if you weren't trolling up a BYU article now would you?

For the record I have no problem with you being in a BYU article whining and complaining, frankly I like having ute trolls here as it is fun, but don't complain when you or any other utah troll gets answered and called out for your transparent digs.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@flatlander
"BYU recruits more quarterbacks than they need"

The flipside to that is exactly what Kyle did to his QB depth at Utah this year. He absolutely destroyed Utah's first season in the Pac 12 by holding such little regard for the most important position on the team and thinking he could get by with a brittle Jordan Wynn and a DII backup. All of his best athletes at QB were moved to other positions without adequate recruiting to back fill for them.

It was an absolutely egregious mistake on his part and is arguably worse than any of the gaffs that Crowton committed during his tenure at BYU. If Utah had a decent backup QB ready to go, they had a cakewalk to the Pac12 title game (the Pac12 had already gifted them the easiest conference schedule by far!) and a chance at playing in a BCS bowl game their first year in the conference.

So, in contrasting the 2 approaches, I'll take Bronco's approach and have as many quality backups as I can get rather than Kyles and end up shooting his team's chances in the foot.

daddman54
FARMINGTON, UT

Portland Beaver,
I was thinking the same thing then read your post. Good story about a young man who seems to be doing well but as you said the resident troll has to make it into something it isn't.
Almost have to feel sorry for him; not Lark, sounds like the young man will do just fine, it's that other poor guy that needs at least an extra hug if not counseling. Second post and he's already fired up over some perceived slight pounding on his keyboard. LOL LOL LOL

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