"So, other than Phillip Rivers, who Chow coached 2000, who else has he
developed into an NFL?"Chow had 3 years at UCLA. I followed
that program very closely and he didn't have much to work with. In his first
year, UCLA's starting and backup QB went down. The backup-backup QB was some
walk-on. Injuries were all of over the place because UCLA never really had an
O-line protecting their QBs. "His offensive personnel and
schemes at UCLA were far, far from the glory years"Right on.
UCLA went to the pistol offense his 3rd year there. How you expect him to switch
his entire coaching philosophy and be successful? UCLA didn't even have a QB
that can even run that well.Basically, he never really had a chance
to succeed at UCLA. Just look at what happened to UCLA this year. That program
is a mess.
"So, other than Phillip Rivers, who Chow coached 2000, who else has he
developed into an NFL?"This is still a pretty thin argument.
He's only been in the college game for 4 years since turning Matt Leinart into a
1st round pick (which, with every game he plays in the NFL, looks like more and
more of an incredible management of a player). That's like saying in any single
4 year stretch while he was at BYU that he did not produce an NFL QB he was
unsuccessful."His offensive personnel and schemes at UCLA were
far, far from the glory years"Possibly because they were not
his personnel and schemes, they were Neuheisel's. He was little more than a
play-caller (and only when Rick let him call plays) while at UCLA.
'Girlse' I already wished Norm good luck and a happy Hawaii retirement on
another article. You need to follow things a little closer. Try harder will
you?The title of the article is... "Norm Chow showed he's got
game during difficult Ute season"So losing a QB and having no
backup = "got game" Losing 4 games in a row = "got
game"Losing to the Buffs = "got game"Losing the South Division and a shot at the championship game = "got
game"I just think the headline is stretching it a little with
the forgotten facts of the Ute season.Is that clear 'girlse'?
Norm Chow will do very well in Hawaii! What a wonderful chance for him to be a
head coach. Good article!Some of you other Cougars ought to go duck
Re: uteca. Excuse me. I stand corrected. I agree with you that "there is no
denying Chow's influence" with Rivers .... for 1 year. How can you state
Norm Chow's influence on a redshirt Freshman is what did the trick. Chow
contributed. No doubt about that... for 1 year. So, other than Phillip Rivers,
who Chow coached 2000, who else has he developed into an NFL? Chow was a genious
of an offensive mind. But so many people, the media as well, get caught up in
"what was." His offensive personnel and schemes at UCLA were far, far
from the glory years at BYU, USC, oh and 1 year at North Carolina State. Aloha.
RE: He coached Rivers his senior year. By then Rivers was a 5th year senior and
was a bowl MVP each year from his freshman year on up. He was already slated for
the NFL (we love him in San Diego) & was before Chow was at UCS.Get your facts straight. Chow coached Rivers his freshman year. Chow's
offense was a big reason how well Rivers played his first year in college. In
fact, when Chow left, Head Coach Amato insisted that the new Offensive
Coordinator continue with Chow's offensive schemes. There is no denying Chow's
influence in Rivers development.
@boston"Taking direct aim at celebrating ill will" doesn't
make a single bit of sense although I think I get what you're trying, and
failing, to say. But that isn't "hypocrisy". You need to get a
Webster's and check it next time.If he had "wished ill
will" while publicly congratulating then that might be considered hypocrisy
although that doesn't even really fit the definition. Here is the actual
definition:Hypocrisy - feigning to be what one is notNow
nowhere in 17-14's post did he "feign to be what he is not". To the
contrary he obviously and openly mocked utah "fans" and the utah
program. Really he was just being completely honest about his feelings. Nothing
hypocritical about that.Now you could call him 'classless' if you
would like and that might be accurate although I really doubt he cares if you
call him that. I know I wouldn't care.
I couldn't be happier that Norm is getting his shot at being a head coach. I was
so tired of his predictable play calling towards the end of his career at
BYU...it was so awful. However, I couldn't be happier for him and the success
that he's had since he moved on.Having lived in Hawaii, I know that
they'll LOVE having a 'local' boy leading the Warriors. Norm will do a great job
keeping more top tier home grown talent on the islands. I think he'll also be
able to do a really good job getting kids from the mainland over to the islands
as long as UH gives him a decent recruiting budget...something that June Jones
never had the luxury of working with and one of the main reasons he left for
SMU.Congratulations, Coach Chow! Not only do you get to live in what
I consider the most beautiful place in the world, but I have absolute confidence
that you'll make the most out of the opportunity!! Do Hawaii proud!! Aloha
Norm, good luck, and do well!Norm has always been a great guy! I
wish him all the best! Just miss seeing him jogging from the Fieldhouse to the
Lake and back...
Re: StGtoSLC "So Cal, do you follow football much? Pretty sure Norm left SC
a bit before 07 and coached up some kid named Philip Rivers." Some
clarification needed:NC State: 2000USC: 2001-04Titans
(NFL): 2005-07UCLA: 2008-10He coached Rivers his senior year.
By then Rivers was a 5th year senior and was a bowl MVP each year from his
freshman year on up. He was already slated for the NFL (we love him in San
Diego) & was before Chow was at UCS. The point I'm making is how many QB's
has he developed since leaving USC? None.
So Cal, do you follow football much? Pretty sure Norm left SC a bit before 07
and coached up some kid named Philip Rivers, although not sure the name would
mean much to you. Congrats and good luck, you'll be missed here, Coach.
Re: Utes Fan "Utah ends up with the best bowl game outside of the 2 BCS
bowls they have ever been to - 3rd best bowl in the history of the program. I'll
take it."Huh? I would hope other Trolls don't agree with you.
3rd best bowl in the history of your program? I'll let you take El Paso in the
winter time. Feliz Navidad, mis amigos!Re: Civil-- I'm sorry, Dad!
I'll try to be better. :-)
@DuckhunterIn Duckhunter terms, it means to say one thing and than
do the other. Your 17-14 friend is full of hypocrisy; taking direct aim at
celebrating ill toward a bigger brother. Wishing congratulations to the
individual would have sufficed, and that alone would further the byu way.
I'm getting sooooooooo tired of negative comments on here, from all sides. Get
lives. Grow up. Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a
man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. Jesus
of NazarethYour negative comments flow from your negative lives, and
yet, it is the negative attitude that creates those lives to begin with.You know who you are.Stop it. Now.
@bostonHow are the BYU fans comments "hypocritical"? Do
you know what "hypocrite" even means?
Utah Coordinators: Where Presidents come to recruit Head Coaches.
Concerning the couple of BYU fans commenting on this board: You are a perfect
example of the typical hypocrite in so many ways. Congratulations Norm! Go
AGGIES! Go UTES! Go WILDCATS!, and yes go byu, but not really.
I'm wondering if he "has" game or he "had" game? Hope this
works out for him because I know it's something he's wanted for a long time. But
that's the key, he's wanted this position for sooooo long. It's probably 10-15
years too late. What has he done as an OC since 2007, after leaving USC? His
collegiate offenses since then have been far from what they were previously.
Also, since leaving USC, name one college quarterback who's playing in the NFL?
But if Hawaii feels he can be the new face of their football program at his
advanced age, so be it.
@17-14 Hurts Don't It?Hat's off to a turn around season but it sure fell
short of expectations. Just like last year.--------Funny how
it works out. A disappointing loss to Colorado to be sure, but Utah ends up with
the best bowl game outside of the 2 BCS bowls they have ever been to - 3rd best
bowl in the history of the program.I'll take it.Good
@17-14Way to show that classy side of a cougar fan.
Best wishes to Coach Chow! Go Utes!
Have always liked Norm Chow. Here's wishing him all the best!
Hurtz Donut in Springville talks about the Utes season falling short and going
on about what a wasted year Utah had. All the while believing BYU had a great
year because they won 8 games against a jv shcedule and will play a no name team
in the Armed Forces Bowl.But the reality is they are 0-3 against
teams that play varsity football, with the sweetest score being 54-10. How's
that for falling short?
Good Luck coach Chow. You'll be missed at Utah and do well in Hawaii. Thanks for
this season we wish it were more but understand your position.
Utah, now you can pick up Gary Crowton. Will Norm Chow going to be OC just like
Bronco M. as DC?
Oh, how quickly they forget...Yep, when you lose your star QB and
have no one to turn to.When you've lost 4 games in a row.When you lose to one of the absolute worse teams in your conference, at the
same time you lose the South Division title, the championship game and let's
don't forget the parade in Pasadena.And now they're losing him too.
Yes, it was a difficult Ute season.Hat's off to a turn
around season but it sure fell short of expectations. Just like last year.
I bet the utes are relieved....
All the best to Norm Chow!!! He's a class act!!!
It's been great to see what he could this year with the players we had. Year
two would have been great to have had him around. But, for as good as he has
been and being the part of some very good programs he never really got his shot.
He has it now and with Hawaii moving into the MWC it will be fun to see how he
does.It's been fun for me to be able to tell people that I was on
the team where he had his very first coaching job, East Mity Mites 1969. that
sure and the heck dates me.Good luck coach in Hawaii