I lost count. Wouldn't this be his 6th job in 7 years?
Well deserved and a great fit!
Great fit for Chow and Hawaii.
Good news for the Utes? May be they'll find another former BYU player or coach
for a replacement.
Good for Chow, he deserves a shot at HC.Utah - you will do just fine
without him. He was very good years ago but times have changed.
Good for Chow. He deserves a chance to show what he can do as the top man. I
hope he does well except when he plays BYU.
Good for Norm!
Good for Norm, I'm glad he finally got his chance!
If true, thanks for the work Norm and good luck to you.
Long over due for Coach Chow. Congrats to him.
If accurate, Best of luck to Norm! Great man! Great Coach! He deserves a head
coach opportunity. Recruiting great Hawaiian athletes will now become more
difficult for both BYU and Utah.
Congrats to Norm. He's wanted a head coaching shot for years, nice to see him
finally get one. Wish he could have stayed a few more years, but I
love the direction he's pointed the Utah offense in. A year with Chow has to
have helped ARod's coaching ability, and I think he'll be more comfortable as
the OC in the West Coast/Pro attack Chow implemented.
I'm relieved, actually, that Sitake wasn't hired.
Good for him. The Utes' job always seemed like a temporary thing, hopefully he
can build long term success at Hawaii and then retire there.
Chow isknown as being really hard to work with. Good riddance.
Good job for Chow. Wasn't that impressed with his performance this year as OC.
Hopefully we can get some fresh blood in there to improve our O-line and
this makes the byu vs hawaii games/rivalry that much better
Oh great! Oh well. It's what Chow always wanted. Poor Whittingham is always
having to stress over coaches. Hopefully the other two offensive coaches
learned how to call a game. This may also hurt our chances of landing one
certain qb from California.
Nice place to play but what is the excuse for its miserable fan base. The
stands were nearly deserted for the BYU game. Good for Norm hope he does well.
Should have been a head coach a long time ago. Congrats Norm!
Now Utah will look to BYU to provide another football coach!
I am really happy to see him get his chance. I will be pulling for him to do
well in Hawaii.The timing is pretty good for Utah with two very good QB's
coming in next year. They will likely have a year to learn the new OC's system
while Wynn or Hays plays out their last year. It diddn't look like Utah was set
to have a great season offensively anyway with who is graduating and the qb
situation what it is. It would have been much worse if this had happened one or
two years from now.Just hope that he doesn't persuede any key coaches to
go with him.
True that Jake Heaps is following Norm Chow to Hawaii?Rrecruiting NFL
"Wasn't that impressed with his performance this year as OC. Hopefully we
can get some fresh blood in there to improve our O-line and quarterback
positions."And here all this time I thought Chow was the best
thing since sliced bread.
Were we not hearing a year ago about how the ute fans were all saying that Norm
was the greatest offensive mind in football and how he was going to take the u
to the Rose Bowl and beyond? I guess he saw how bad things were on the Hill and
decided that his alma mater was not what it used to be and hurried and put in
for a head joy to get away.
Eddie-Wow, you are so completely right. Great comment man. You
should be on sportscenter.
Ouch! One and done. Guess the writing was on the wall. His promise of the
"high powered" Ute offense couldn't shift gears. Georgia Tech is
taking a sigh of relief. They didn't know how they were going to handle the
Re: Louisiana Cougar "Well deserved and a great fit!"Re:
Timpman "Good for Norm, I'm glad he finally got his chance!"I agree with both of you, but those statements (in addition to many more) are
10-15 years late. What has Chow done over the past 7 years, ever since leaving
USC, to show he's still the offensive wizard he was prior to that. Everyone
pulling for Chow seems to be lost in "yester year." Why Hawaii would
be interested in building a program behind someone who has been far, far less
productive over the past 7 years is beyond me. Time will only tell. And now for you trolls, whose offense more than struggle this year, except for
your 52-10 thumping of the Cougs, what are you going to do with the third OC in
3 years? This can't hone well for Jordan Wynn's development. Perhaps you can
make it to El Paso again.
@UteMiguel - I heard on the radio a few minutes ago that Chow may actually be
taking Sitake with him. I'm less worried about the D than the O -
we still have KWhit to install and oversee his D no matter who the coordinator
is, but this will be the 5th O coordinator in 7 years. I hope Kyle does a
thorough search, and doesn't just knee-jerk and promote Schramm or Roderick -
we're a PAC-12 program that deserves a top-notch, experienced offensive
We'll miss you coach, but this opportunity is long overdue. Thanks for your
contributions to the U and good luck in Hawaii!
Isn't it funny that in this profession no one looks at job-hopping as a
negative? Should have been a coach...
Congratulations, Norm!! This is well-deserved. Hawai'i no ka oe! If we could
get Robert Anae up at the U. Their strength in recruiting Polynesian players
will increase with Robert. Unfortunately for BYU, it'll be downhill for them
for strong Polynesian players. The numbers are already decreasing.
I hope the best for him! Good luck coach!
@EddieThis is what happens when your program accomplishes things in
the eyes of other programs/coaches. Your coaching staff gets the opportunity to
get promoted. Something BYU just doesn't have to worry about.
@Tom in CAChow did a terrific job this year. Installing a new
system, without a D1 QB once Wynn went down, and a JC running back that nobody
had any expectations for. All of those hurdles bundled with the first year in
the Pac-12, the adjustments Chow made playing without a QB were masterful. He was ever bit what most Utah fans expected. He managed to keep this
year from being a disaster when Wynn was hurt.
I guarantee they are celebrating at the University of Utah today and next year
at this time Hawaii will be wondering what on earth they got themselves into.
Thanks Norm for the part you played in the 54-10 humiliation at LES. That one
was EPIC and was one for the ages.
Some are saying that he didn't do a good job this year at Utah. Stop and think
where the utes would have been without out him. In my opinion he is the one
that kept the utah season from being a huge disaster. He brought in Hayes very
late which was a big pickup with the QB situation at the u. I wish him the
This hurts my soul. Good for him though. He did a great job with the tools he
was given at Utah this year, I just hope that this doesn't hurt our immediate qb
USAlover:"Now Utah will look to BYU to provide another football
coach!"Actually, the Y looked to the U to get Chow, but I
wouldn't worry about Utah cherry picking any coaches off of Mendenhall's staff.
There really isn't anything worth taking down there.If the rumors of
Chow to Hawai'i are true, then this is great for Chow; but bad for the U. Chow
will be missed. Nevertheless, Chow is a great choice, and Hawai'i would be wise
to take him. Good luck Coach. You deserve this promotion.Go
I'd rather see our coaches be promoted to head coaches then have to wait and
wonder how many years to let them stay before they a fired.
ute coaches running from the program. chow gone and sitake looking to probably
follow. But how could this be? utah "fans" have been telling us how
being in the pac10 is the end all be all and why would any coach ever want to
leave. Sure they'll justify chow's bailing on them by saying he got a promotion
but what about sitake? Isn't it a move down? At least utah "fans" have
been telling us that. But why would sitake even consider it? Could it be that
neither of them really saw utah as all that great a place to be? Then of course how great will utah be next season trying to replace both
coordinators? utah "fans" told us this year that BYU would struggle
doing it so unless they are hypocrites shouldn't utah struggle jsut the same?
And what about all of the recruits chow was bringing to utah? utah already has
the lowest ranked recruiting class in the pac10 and is in the bottom 3rd of the
country so what happens if some of those low ranked recruits don't come either?
Oh man this could really turn out to be bad/fun.
@ worf"Good news for the Utes? May be they'll find another
former BYU player or coach for a replacement".Dude, Norm Chow
graduated and played for the U. Coach Chow is responsible for the success BYU
has had with Coach Edwards. Maybe BYU should be the ones looking at hiring
former Utah players again. lol.Congrats coach Chow! We wish you the
best of luck.
worf @ 1:27-Norm Chow is University of Utah graduate.......
Norm Chow is too old to be a head coach.......
Its great that Chow is going to coach his hometown team
Well, that will dry up the islands and even Chow will invade the mainland for
talent for the Warriors. This move should have happed 10 or 15 years ago for
Norm. All the best coach; it is long overdue. You are the best. Too bad you
didn't have any talent to work with at Utah. It was scary with no quarterbacks
after a vulnerable qb went down with injuries. Utah is doomed in the PAC-12
anyway. Actually, it would have made more sense to have Hawaii in the then
PAC-10. How does Utah and Colorado qualify as pacific schools? Come on. Norm
will have plenty of people to choose from to fill out his staff and build a
powerhouse. Good luck.
We'll miss Norm at the "U" but I'm happy he got his shot at being a
head coach finally. Best of luck to you coach.
First, Congratulations, Norm. Very deserving and I wish you well.Second, 65 and coach and live in Utah, or coach and live in Hawaii where you
grew up... I'd have to call that a no-brainer. I'm surprised surfer-Bronco
didn't put in for the job.Third, "Chow is responsible for the
success BYU had with Coach Edwards?" Any 5-year-old with access to google
would know that BYU had great success before Norm became QB coach or OC. Chow
was the last in a list of OC's, QB coaches and play callers at BYU. Kragthorpe,
Scovil, English, French, Holmgren (83-85 QB coach for Steve Young and NC), Chow.
Norm started as Freshman coach, running backs, receivers, QB coach (1986). BYU
had a National Championship before Norm was calling the plays. LaVell's name is
on the stadium for a reason -- and not because he threw down a couple mill.
Duckhunter-First of all, thank you for being classy (as you always
are). Second, we all know that no one can upgrade on the independence/WAC/PCC,
so of course no one even tries to take coaches from your school (is that the
reason why BYU coaches never get offers?). Darn i wish we were in BYU's
situation. I guess we're just stuck in this lowly BCS conference that nobody
wants to coach in. :/
Good luck to Coach Chow. Long, LONG overdue.
Chow will not win in Hawaii. Personally I like him, but he just does not have it
I would LOVE to see Jake Heaps follow Chow to Hawaii. Then it would be out
there for all to see if the problem with Heaps was a lack of proper coaching by
a head coach that can't develop talent and an inexperienced offensive
coordinator, like some say or if the problem was Heaps himself. If anybody can
develop Heaps into an NFL quarterback it's the great Norm Chow, right? I would
put my money on the latter.
Note to Kyle W,Rick Neuhoser ... Neuheister...Sweaterhostel...
Neueinhassenfeffer... somebody is available.
54-10 | 3:16 p.m. Dec. 20, 2011Thanks Norm for the part you played
in the 14-17 humiliation with Colorado. That one was EPIC and was one for the
ages.And I was embarrassed with the Washington State game also.
Super! This just proves what I truly believe that good things happen to good
people. Gongrats Norm. What a great way to end a career by going home where it
PAC 12 loves U,Sorry dude, but it was really Doug Scovill who built
BYU's offence. Both Norm and LaValle, were simply following his coat tail.
@DontMUSSwUtah,Tell me again where your Head coach played? I guess
he didn't learn anything there. It must have been that wonderful win against CU
that made Chow run for the Islands. It should be real funny to see how many
follow him.Also to all the others who think that no "good"
coaches come out of BYU... Look no further than the NFL with several HC's who
have won a lot of games. Oh and didn't Edwards have an offer from the Lions? I
think so.Keep it classy u fans and keep the spin coming.
Now time to hire Gary Crowton as new OC Coach.
Finally he gets his due! He should have been given the same opportunity long
ago at both BYU and Utah. I hope he does well. Goodby recruits for BYU and
Utah from the island state.
Wait a minute! Hawaii isn't in the PAC 12. Is he aware of this? Because
according to all my Ute friends, the PAC 12 Utes weren't ever supposed to lose
talent to anyone 'lesser' than them ever again. Weird. Congrats
Norm. Good luck.
I predict .500 record.
that about does it...time to fire HILL! Norm was the best coach Uteville will
ever see....he should have been hired as head coach and Whit sent packing!
He deserves a shot at being a head coach! It's more than about time!!!
As someone who is turning 65 next year, and planning to work awhile longer, I am
particularly pleased to see Norm Chow finally given a chance, at his age, to
achieve what has probably been a lifetime goal. I wish coach Chow all the best
in his new challenge.
eddie-You are right. Whit did learn everything he knows from playing
at BYU for 3 years, because BYU is the allmighty and everybody should learn
everything they know from playing there. He probably learned nothing from
working his way up the system at Utah. Speaking of spin, im pretty
sure that loss at CU really was what sent chow running. It couldn't have been
the many other opportunities he would be seizing by taking the job.Come on bro, do you even consider what you are saying before your post? Take
off your blue goggles for a bit.
It's interesting Utah articles are loaded with over 80 percent of coug fan
comments on them.Some of you might think before you post. Like the
poster who claimed that Chow didn't have anything to do with byu's success.
Really?Chow is one of the greatest offensive coordinatiors to ever
coach. I'm proud that he is a Ute and if he really does leave the program, my
only wish will be that he stayed longer.I also hope that we don't
lose any recruits because of his possible departure.The Utes are
still in better position than they were in the MWC and they are in better
position than their independent rivals. All of the posts on here only prove
Goll, Chow is only awesome because he was at The Byu.
Chow is a great offensive coordinator. Head coach??? I doubt it. Hawaii is home.
@Anonymous Infinity"How does Utah and Colorado qualify as pacific
schools?"Probably the same way Arizona and ASU do.
Can't blame Norm for wanting better material to work with than the DII transfers
he was saddled with at Utah.
awesome hire! Congrats to Coach Chow, you deserve this shot! Way to go
Hawaii!Next year's BYU vs Hawaii game is going to be wicked!
Stop the presses...has anyone told Norm, Chris, hedgie and the rest of ute
nation that know one in their right mind would ever leave the great pac 12.
I wish Coach Chow the best if he takes the Hawaii job, He's earned it. I just
hope he doesn't take any recruits or assistants with him. I'm sure Chris Hill
and Coach Whit have contigency plans. For instance does anybody think, that with
Coach Chow seriously looking at Hawaii, it was just COINCIDENCE that Urban
Meyers Utah offensive co-ordinator Mike Sanford "also observed
Best wishes to Norm. His move to head coach is long overdue. I am glad Hawaii
is giving a chance.
Watch out BYU!
Congrats to coach Chow! He deserves it!Utah should hire Mike Sanford
to replace Norm Chow. He would be phenomenal to run our offense. Sanford ran
Utah's offense back in 2004 when Utah steam rolled BYU 52-21 on their way to a
Fiesta Bowl championship. He would be a great hire!
This will be his last gig then he will retire. Utah was just a parachute out of
the UCLA gig while saving face, I don't think it's a big deal but Utah is taking
it in the chops again.
Interesting comment about Sanford Ute4ever Red!! I wouldnt' mind that one bit.
Maybe Anae is available. I'm pretty sure nobody outside of happy town would be
interested in Doman.
@ selway " The stands were nearly deserted for the BYU game
". Small wonder at 54-10A lot of the blue ducked and covered
after that shelling !
When he goes to Utah people say he is overrated but when he goes to Hawaii, all
of the sudden he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don't get it.
(snicker, snicker, Ute fans, this is so funny)Good luck Coach Chow,
what a dream location to work at and then retire.
The question is why? Chow has had head coaching jobs offered that most would say
are better than the Hawaii job. This hurts Utah in recruiting a QB.
Wynn will be the best option next year. Will the Trent Dilfer guy stay committed
to the Utes? Hays will be the back up again.Tough to lose Chow.
HUH? I thought the Pac was the greatest conference ever! Why would someone leave
Re: jarka-rusTell me you wouldn't jump at the chance to make three
times what you currently make plus have a chance to be head coach and call all
the shots. Your point is pretty lame truth be told. At least other
schools recognize a quality coach when they see it. How many Cougar coaches
have even gotten a look from other schools? Oh yeah that's right none!!
Either way Chow wins, about time he gets the love.
Watch out BYU? Hahaha. When has Hawaii ever won a game off of the islands. They
suck on the mainland.
@ duckhunter Apparently Hawaii doesn't share you opinion
" Good for you if you guys want him, you're welcome to him, but we don't
want him at all. April 10 2011 "" Yep he's another BYU
retread. You guys are welcome to him ". " While it is true
Ute "fans" don't have any credibility anyway it doesn't help your
cause to be a hypocrite." And your are the judge of all Utes because
?Nothing you posted there was about most of the the articles, just
Nice job Norm. Good luck Chase. Looks like you get a newbie to coach you.
Those commenting that there were few fans at the BYU-Hawaii game don't
understand the local culture. (There'd be fewer fans for a Utah-Hawaii game,
for sure.) Islanders traditionally love to play their games at night because
that makes mainlanders start to play about 11:30 PM MST and Hawaii gets the
advantage. During the day Islanders would rather go to the beach than to a
college football game. Those are facts.Chow's highlight this year
was the gift game in Provo; his ability to guide the Utes was evident when they
produced less than 40 yards offense the first quarter against Colorado at home
in SLC with the potential appearance at the Rose Bowl on the line; we see how
well Chow did at that. And he needed OT at WSU to garner a victory, something
he couldn't produce playing Colorado.In all his success at BYU he
became very, very predictable in his play calling. Seems like that's been his
one weakness. I do wish him well at Hawaii.It will be intersting to
see who might want to move to Utah now that there's a vacancy; maybe some
assistant from Montana State would be willing.
Good for Chow! He'll now make the MWC a little more competitive, while BYU tries
to figure out their schedule with the likes of Idaho State, Weber State, Dixie
State and SUU.
Now Hawaii would be a perfect fit for Jake Heaps.
"... just bigotry."Feel the love from some of these Ute
fans. I think they are having an emotional meltdown now and are just 'acting
out' their confusion and dissappoint over the latest events.Don't
worry Ute fans, you'll get another OC, maybe as good as Chow.Colorado hopes so.
I guess you can count on Heaps not going to Utah now, eh?
Once again, I get a chuckle out of all the cougar posts on an article about
Utah. Nice to know they like to follow what's going on with big brother.All of them say good luck Norm, you should have been a head coach a long
time ago, except not at BYU when you were in your prime and Gary Crowton was
thought to be the next LaVell, how'd that turn out?Lastly, byu
doesn't need to worry about coaches leaving their staff for other opportunities
because every other school wants a coach from a program who has proven they can
be successful competing against other D1 talent. If those schools want to hire
someone who can compete against the jv, they can find them in the high school
ranks and don't have to "raid" byu's noteworthy staff.
Dave SYou do realize that Chow used to coach at Y right?
But I still don't understand, isn't the WAC a massive step down from the PAC??
Even as head coach? Isn't every single team in that conf. pathetic and
irrelevant. Now this is not so? Just don't make sense. Oh must be about the
money and not BCS bowls.
Good on ya Norm..... Wishing you the best of success in the years to come. :)
Just please be prepared to lose once a year to the Cougars. :)
@ 17-14 Hurts Don't It?: Ute fans aren't worried. If you read these
comments, you'll notice most fans are wishing him luck. Hopefully the Utes can
replace Chow with a coach as loyal as BYUs coaches. Oh wait, BYUs coaches only
stick around because nobody except BYU wants them. Good coaches like Witt don't
want to go to BYU in the first place so BYU gets stuck with the leftovers that
nobody else wants.
wazzup??Provo, UTCongratulations, Norm!! This is
well-deserved. Hawai'i no ka oe!I know I'm slow with this wazzup,
but it's "Hawai'i no ka 'oi" not "oe." The expression
translates as "Hawaii the best" but "oe" is singular
"you."Norm Chow will be a great fit in Hawaii and I wish
him the best there. This will make BYU/Hawaii games all the more exciting.
Norm Chow will go down as one of the great offensive minds in NCAA history.
With his development of Heisman Trophy QB's and he successes at USC and BYU, no
one can doubt his ability. I thought the job he did at Utah with minimal talent
showed his greatness. He adapted to the talent that he had on hand, including a
change at QB. Utah will need a veteran OC, not Rodrick and Stramm. I am
excited for Norm to get the Hawaii job. I wish him well. He will be able to
recruit the islands which will hurt both Utah and BYU.
Of rats and sinking ships
@hailstorm1st of all thank you for your obsession with me and 2nd of
all I haven't changed my opinion about chow one bit. he is a has been and Hawaii
is just as welcome to him as utah was.Were you trying to prove
something with your post? other than proving you're obsessed with me I'm not
really sure what it was? I'd ask you to explain it but I guess I just dont
really care what you thought you were 'proving'. Merry Christmas!
@DuckhunterThe class you have is our obsession, nothing like calling
a gentleman who has been part of a 39 year sucessful career a "has
been". Doesn't matter what profession, 39 years deserves a lot more
respect than that. I know there isn't any Ute fan that would get on this thread
and call Lance Reynolds a "has been"You come on here
stating that someone is obsessed with you, I know you have a very high opinion
of yourself. But, I as a Ute fan cannot get over how obsessed you are with the
Utes.Norm Chow has done some great things while coaching football
and now he gets his chance at a head coaching job, Hawaii. Coach Whit knows he
is going to loose coaches and Utah will be just fine finding a new one. Our
next OC is going to be a suprise to everyone-Mike McKoy is going to come home.
PortlandBeavers: Why would Mike McCoy leave as the OC for the Denver Broncos to
be the OC at the college level? No way he does that. The only way McCoy ends
up here is if the Broncos fire him. I don't think that happens, not this year.
If anything, expect Aaron Roderick to slide back into the OC position and Brian
Johnson to have a higher profile role in game planning than he did this year.
Both got great experience with Chow this year.McCoy is a fantastic
OC. My guess is that he becomes a head coach in the NFL before he ever ends up
at the college level.
@govt rocksWe'll see
I agree that Mike Sanford would be just what the doctor ordered to replace Chow.
Not only was he successful as the OC under Meyer, but with less than average
talent as the head coach at UNLV, remember the beating he laid on the Utes 27-0
a few years back! With Kyles defensive brain and Sanford running the offense,
the glory days might return. Also, Sanford's extensive background as an
assistant in the Pac 12 makes him a great fit for the program today.
jarka-rus:"But I still don't understand, isn't the WAC a
massive step down from the PAC??"What I don't understand is how
you struggle mindlessly with the notion that a promotion to a Head Coaching
position is a massive step UP over a coordinator position. Breaking it down
further for you, before the LAST Warrior coach was fired, he was earning $1.1
million/yr. Chow currently makes $275K/yr. For the mathematically disinclined,
that's equivalent to a 300% pay raise. And that's not even all....Did you know
that Chow is FROM Hawai'i? This creates a chance for him to return home, so that
would be yet ANOTHER reason why he'd want to leave SLC.So did THAT
simplify his motives a bit easier for you?And for what it's worth,
Hawai'i played it's last WAC [football] game 2 1/2 wks ago. As far as football
is concerned, they're MWC now.But don't worry. You're still WAC. There's yet ANOTHER reason for why he'd leave
@the beavBut beav it wasn't me that brought myself into this, it was
failstorm. I do enjoy reading your biased posts because they are funny but they
are still biased. Hey that's fine but of course all of the ute fan posts about
Bronco, Doman, and all the other BYU coaches simply shows that you only look at
the supposed "classlessness" from one direction. That is commonly
refered to as hypocrisy and that is a true utah "fan" trait.
Oh and utah "fans", on the mike sanford topic. It was pretty well
reported that whittingham and sanford don't get along and wittingham refused to
even shake hands with him after the 27-0 humiliation a few years ago. Then
sanford made some derogatory remarks about whittingham, etc.I
believe it all began because sanford thought he should get the utah job over
whittingham and chris hill told him he wouldn't get it and then just grew from
there. So has that all been put behind them?
Duckhunter:"ute coaches running from the program. chow gone and
sitake looking to probably follow. But how could this be? utah "fans"
have been telling us how being in the pac10 is the end all be all and why would
any coach ever want to leave. Sure they'll justify chow's bailing on them by
saying he got a promotion but what about sitake? Isn't it a move down?"A Pac-12 to MWC lateral migration typically IS a move down. But for
Sitake, it's at least a chance to return home. He's FROM Hawai'i you know.
Nevertheless, this step down may also be a good overall career move for him if
he harbors any intentions to succeed the 65-yr old Chow as a
Head-Coach-in-waiting. Because THEN, the UH job could be a step up, since
Sitake would NOT be considered a Head-Coach-in-waiting at the U. Losing a great offensive mind in Chow is not good for the Utah program, but
replacing Sitake shouldn't be too challenging.
@ Duckbutter Always the other guy stirring up the mud .It's just not
like you to accept responsibility for your ill phrased comments, Again the
article is about Norm Chow and his new HC job, not about the put downs you throw
out at random.
@Naval VetOk, I don't disagree with any of that. As a matter of fact
I think the exact same thing. But I was just being sarcastic for utah
"fans" sakes since they have been telling us for a couple of years now
how great the pac12 is blah, blah, blah. The point is that being a coordinator
at a bottom tier pac12 team in a less than desirable location is not necessarily
better than the same job in your home state, which just happens to be a
paradise, at a school in a 'lesser' conference. I can see that and it appears
you see it as well. Plus I agree with you that replacing him shouldn't be all
that difficult. The defense is whittingham's, he can teach it to anyone. I'm
sure scally would do just as good a job as sitake given a couple of years.But it doesn't appear that Sitake is leaving anyway, they have been
reporting on the radio today that he has called up several media people to tell
them he isn't going to Hawaii. I haven't heard any official statements or
interviews yet but that is what they are reporting.
But failstorm you are the one cataloging all my posts and you are the one that
posted them here, in this article about chow, not me. In case you need it
explained to you, and it appears that you do, you are the one bringing it up
here, not me. Good grief you are basicly beside yourself and unhinged over me. I
really enjoy that I have done this to you.LOL!
@williary"This is what happens when your program accomplishes things
in the eyes of other programs/coaches. Your coaching staff gets the opportunity
to get promoted. Something BYU just doesn't have to worry
about."Geez, at least put some thought into your posts. Think
this through here, you're claiming that Norm's leading Utah to one of the worst
offenses in all of college football in his one season is the reason he's getting
this job?Well, of course, it OBVIOUSLY has nothing to do with his 27
yrs as an offensive innovator & pioneer at BYU, developing 3 Heisman winning
QB's (including Ty Detmer), success in developing NFL QB's (Nielsen, Wilson,
McMahon, Young, Detmer, Rivers, Palmer, Leinart, etc), coaching on a National
Championship team (BYU '84 & USC '03 & '04), etc?Right now,
you should prolly just change your profile name and never use williary again
because you will always and forever be remembered for one of the most moronic
posts ever on a DN article.
@ Duckhunter Th Hailstorm is right. Your criticism of the Utes far
outweigh your credibility.
@BigCougarNice post. When I read williary's poorly thought out post
I also wondered what it was he thought Norm Chow helped utah
"accomplish" this season? For the life of me I can't find much in the
way of accomplishments at all let alone offensively.Now if you go
back in Norm's history, and to be honest it is getting to be ancient history, he
has some accomplishments that probably warranted an opportunity like this one.
But nothing he did recently, especially this current season at utah, is going to
be all that impressive to "other programs/coaches" unless they are
impressed with running the worst offense in your conference and one of the worst
in the entire country. Nope that is not what got him this job. His lifetime
accomplishments are what got him the job and they seem to have been enough to
make this last year at utah, and the previous 3 at ucla, not to damaging to his
resume. Despite my sarcasm I'm actually interested to see what he
can do. We are now going to find out if it is real or just hype with this guy.
@don't feed the duhhkYou do realize that i don't care what utah
"fans" think? You see I realize my "crediblity" to utah
"fans" has nothing to do with whether or not I am correct, it is
completely dependent on whehter or not I am critical of, or praising, utah and
its "fans".If I got on here and praise utah, and praised
it "fans", in otherwords basicly lied a bunch, then you would all deem
me "credible". If on the otherhand i get on here and am honest and
point out how classless the "fans" are and how hypocritical they are,
then I lack "credibility with those "fans".I
understand the game perfectly and am not bothered, or fazed, by it in the
To williary, utesby3 and others commenting on the darth of coaches having
matriculated from BYU, please note article just posted in the DN sports section
by the Wall Street Journal wherein WSJ has done a study of all coaches currently
at the D-1 level, some 1,300 +/-. Number (1) is Iowa with 16, tied for second
is BYU with 15. Utah, to their credit, is also mentioned having spawned 9.
Once again, it's best to have the facts before opening mouth or flexing fingers
on keyboard. Saves on embarassment.
@Duckhunter"Despite my sarcasm I'm actually interested to see what he
can do. We are now going to find out if it is real or just hype with this
guy."I hope he does well and I'm interested to see what this
does to the Hawaii/BYU rivalry. Next year's game in Provo just got a little more
@ Utephan2"the glory days might return."You are
correct. Too bad that it was just days for the u and YEARS for BYU. The glory
days of the u are in the past and will stay in the past forever more. The glory
days of BYU will be right around the corner and will continue again for
decades.Oh and by the way.......Mark it down!
@DuckhunterI understand the game perfectly and am not bothered, or fazed,
by it in the least.Yes you are, that's why all the comments come on
these Ute articles. You use the words "classless" and
"hypocrisy" of Utah fans, the way I see it we are just stating the
truth. When was the last time a coach at the Y went somewhere to coach (other
than the fired ones). Why is it that coaches at the U are always on some other
schools list, including coach Whit.I personally don't think you have
an understanding of the game, you are bothered and fazed by the fact the U has
past the cougars by in football. If you really did understand the difference in
playing an Arizona State one week and then Cal the next. BYU plays Idaho one
week the next week New Mexico State. You say things like "less disrable
location in the bottom of the PAC-12", a totally jealous statement, (Provo
is a better place). Utah will be just fine and play next year in the PAC-12.You cannot believe the players (PAC-12) we got to see this year, NFL
Good for Coach Chow. He has earned it!
This is a great guy that should have been a head coach years ago. I hate to see
him leave Utah but, not under these circumstances. I wish him nothing but the
@eddieMark it down, I'm doing that right now. How can you have
glory days when you are nothing playing for nothing. That's where the y is
headed, 1 loss and you're done. I see more than 1 loss for the cougs next
year.Mark it down
Peace and safety to all this holiday season.
@Portland Beavers"Why is it that coaches at the U are always on some
other schools list, including coach Whit."Another post that
probably should've been thought through before posting. I know Duckhunter gets
under your skin, but he only does it for the reaction and when you fire off
posts that aren't accurate then it rewards him.Bronco was on the
short list for the UCLA job and asked them to take his name off the list. I
think the UCLA job is better than the ASU job that Kyle didn't interview for but
was rumored to be interested in.The only HC job Kyle has been
offered, the Tennessee job, he turned down. His offer came after 5 or 6 other
coaches before him all turned it down. Even the HC at Duke turned it down before
it was offered to Kyle. If the HC at Duke is turning down a job you know it
stinks.For 30 yrs or so BYU had the same coach, Lavell Edwards. Who
knows what college jobs he was offered or asked to interview for and declined.
We do know that the Detroit Lions wanted him after the 1984 National
(-cont)@Portland Beavers...season and he contemplated it but
in the end turned them down. Since he retired they've only had 2 other coaches.
Crowton turned out to be an utter disaster and all Cougar fans readily
acknowledge that. He's not getting any HC jobs but he has certainly been able to
land marquee OC jobs at prestigious football schools like Oregon, LSU, etc.What's silly about your post is that Norm Chow, Kyle Whittingham, Aaron
Roderick and Kalani Sitake are all former BYU coaches. Norm Chow has had quite a
track record of high profile jobs since leaving BYU, including the NFL. Kyle
also has done pretty well for himself.BYU has had their share of
lame coaches but so has Utah (Stobart, Lovat, etc), what's ironic is the shared
history we have with BYU when it comes to good coaches (you can probably throw
Utah St in there for that matter). With so many ties together between the 2
institutions, when you put down one, you're putting down the other as well.
Sorry BiggerUtefan I guess I'm the silly one today. Got to be honest with ya,
never really thought about where the coaches have come from. Just know that
they really do a pretty good job at both places. Just trying to have some fun.
The duck man does the same thing, the others I think they are just young and
don't know any better.Merry Christmas
I am so very happy for him. He absolutely deserves this opportunity. I hope
he is able to make the most of it.