Comments about ‘Evangelicals warm, cool to Mormon president’

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I don't know whether Evangelicals will vote for a Mormon, but what about the reverse? Will Mormons vote for a candidate of another religion when there is a Mormon in the race? If we look at the statements of LDS leaders, they don't endorse parties, but have said the Constitution is very important, even calling it divine. The Book of Mormon tells of people who were protected when fighting wars of defense, but that they were condemned when they would leave their lands and fight wars of preemption and agression. Given these paramaters, I think we should see a lot more support among Mormons for someone like Ron Paul. It is telling that we do not. The vast majority of members I know and have talked to support Mitt Romney. Do we give what we demand? Are we members willing to look at candidates regardless of religion? I have made a defense for a Ron Paul-type candidate (a strict Constitutionalist and a believer that wars are only to be fought in self-defense) based on only a couple of points of doctrine but there are more. Would someone be willing to explain why LDS should support Romney?

USAlover | 9:48 a.m. Dec. 20, 2011,

297.

Totally different! :)

The Right claims that the Left is trying to 'villify' Romney because of his LDS faith.

And yet:

*'Fox News host: Romney not Christian' - By Hal Boyd, Deseret News - 07/17/11

*'Rick Perry backer decries Mitt Romney, Mormons' - By Jamshid Ghazi Askar, Deseret News - 10/08/11

"(Robert) Jeffress described Romney's Mormon faith as a 'cult,' and said evangelicals had only one real option in the 2012 primaries. ... Asked by Politico if he believed Romney is a Christian, Jeffress answered: 'No.' "

*Cult of Mormon comment leads Newt Gingrichs Iowa political director, Craig Bergman, to resign - By Tad Walch Deseret News 12/14/11

The only people who CARE about who is Mormon...is the Republican party and it's evangelical Right.

For those who claim this is 'religious persecution' towards the LDS church:

*'Trump on Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11

Where were you x10 months ago.

Where people were EAGER to claim Obama was 'Muslim/born in Kenya'...

because he didn't LOOK like you?

The Double Standard rolls on.

Conservative Republican Evangelical Christians don't like, understand or want anything to do with Mitt's... policies.

He can be everything this world needs, but, as long as CREC's don't like, understand or want anything to do with his...policies, they won't vote for him.

I will explain why anyone should support Romney, not just LDS. He has the same values for family that helped to build this great society we live in, yet he understands that everyone needs to make their own decisions for living. He understands the relationships between business and government and citizens. He knows the standing of the US both historically and currently and decries the decline in respect and honor among the rest of the world currently. I believe he even knows what has caused that decline and lays at least part of the blame on the arrogance displayed by US citizens traveling about the planet. He has demonstrated an ability to gather information and make appropriate decisions followed by implementation. He knows about the pain of personal trials (at least vicariously if not as one of the less wealthy). He pitches in to help when it is appropriate and stands and watches when that is what is needed. He is well educated and prepared to lead. He inspires confidence. He is not in this for his ego; decidedly demonstrated in his 2008 bowing out. He is the best man for the job.

Franklin Graham, as much as I respect him and especially his father Billy, got one thing wrong. We don't need to fear God. He's not a vindictive or vengeful God. He sent his son to atone for our sins and lead us back to him. God is a loving Father who wants the best for all of his children. As he said, "This is my work and my glory, to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man."

@rnoble

I appreciate the response to my question but I could say the same for Ron Paul.

"He has the same values for family that helped to build this great society we live in"

Dr. Paul has been married for 54 years

" He knows the standing of the US both historically and currently"

Ron Paul understands history, often citing U.S. actions abroad as support for his positions

"He pitches in to help when it is appropriate"

Ron Paul would often see poor patients at his practice for free or work out a payment plan, never accepting federal government money because he didn't see it as Constitutional

"He is well educated and prepared to lead"
Ron Paul has been a doctor and served in the Navy, and has been elected 12 times to Congress

Many of the candidates have these qualities. What separates Mitt Romney apart from them? And my specific question, why do such a large number of LDS people support him?

"You can have the nicest guy and he can be a Christian and just wonderful but have absolutely no clue as to how to run a country you don't want that."

We already had that from 1976 to 1980.

@David King---

I agree in many ways about Ron Paul but I have several specific problems with him as POTUS. 1) He has not been for anything, including but not limited to the US as an international leader and champion of freedom. 2) He does not display an understanding of the relationships between what he thinks government should be and how to get there from where we now are; including taxation, immigration, and unemployment. 3) He seems to be more about the attempt to be president than being president, although I will admit he is much more visible in this attempt than previously.

As for why a large number of LDS support Romney---it may be just because he is more visible to LDS because our world is quite small. It seems that everybody knows somebody that knows... etc. And in our world the perspective is much more personal and much less whatever the media decides.

A few of these Evangelicals want to judge right from wrong, and take it upon themselves to interpret the Bible and Christianity. They prey like wolves upon struggling gullible people. They're aggressiveness should not be interpreted as the voice of deity.

Romney will do to the American middle-class and to labor unions what he did to Bain Capital. He will gut them. Romney is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

'A few of these Evangelicals want to judge right from wrong, and take it upon themselves to interpret the Bible and Christianity.' - worf | 1:14 p.m. Dec. 20, 2011

I know we have our 'cat fights' worf, but I would like to seriously ask this question:

'What seperates your example of Evangelicals...from EVERY Judeo-Christian faith today?'

And I know everyone believes I 'hate' the LDS church, but I mean this to EVERY christian denomination. Catholic, Christian, LDS, Prodestants, Evangelicals, all of them.

The REASON I ask you this is, I had a few Missionaries (won't say what faith) and their first words on their pitch was:

'Everythying you think you know about God is a lie.'

My first thought was:

'So, why would I believe YOUR version...when...

'Everything about God, is a lie?'

@David King

"Will Mormons vote for a candidate of another religion when there is a Mormon in the race?"

I have done it many times and I would vote against Harry Reid in a heartbeat if I lived in Nevada. I would vote for a chip over Reid.

Anybody but who currently lives at 1700 Penn Ave. Heck, even Ron Paul, although I really do think that the guy is so far out there that we would really have some different problems than we have now.

Mitt is the man that can change things around for our country as long as we also get rid of people like Pelose, and a few other people that actually live on another planet.

"'When you go to bed at night and bend your knees, who are you bending your knees to?' To us, it's to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and that's how we gain access to the throne of God. It's only through Him.
I grew up where my only exposure to religion was with the Evangelicals. I respect those who try to follow the teachings of the Bible. But I can tell you that none had more reverence for Jesus Christ than Mormons. They are members of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints. Everything centers on Jesus Christ. But when I pray I do so with God the Father in mind, but in the name of His Son Jesus Christ. That is what the Bible teaches me to do. And I picture Him and His Son as real beings who have bodies and look exactly like each other. This concept has been more inspiring to me than any teaching I received during my growing up. But however you picture him, it is by your fruits that you are known.

If we look at the statements of LDS leaders, they don't endorse parties, but have said the Constitution is very important, even calling it divine.

To me there is a great deal of difference between being divine and divinely inspired. I believe the adoption of the 17th Amendment was Constitutional, as would be its repeal, if the procedure was followed. I could never vote for its repeal and would oppose any movement to do so. I love the Constitution and still favor a progressive income tax. I believe the 14th Amendment was a needed correction to the interpretation of the 10th.

It's ok Flashback. I could be wrong, but when Franklin Graham and various scriptures say to fear God, I don't think he or the scriptures mean fear in the sense to be afraid of Him, but to respect and show reverence toward Him.

Had the chance once to hear Franklin Graham speak and appreciated what he had to say.

Flashback | 12:26 p.m. Dec. 20, 2011
Kearns, UT
Franklin Graham, as much as I respect him and especially his father Billy, got one thing wrong. We don't need to fear God. He's not a vindictive or vengeful God. He sent his son to atone for our sins and lead us back to him. God is a loving Father who wants the best for all of his children. As he said, "This is my work and my glory, to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man."

@flashback, "fearing" God means something entirely different. The bible dictionary (you can find on lds org) includes "fear" to mean and I quote "Fear. Care should be taken to distinguish between two different uses of this word. The fear of the Lord is frequently spoken of as part of mans duty (e.g., Ps. 111:10; Eccl. 12:13; Isa. 11:23; Luke 1:50); it is also described as godly fear (Heb. 12:28). In such passages fear is equivalent to reverence, awe, worship, and is therefore an essential part of the attitude of mind in which we ought to stand toward the All-holy God"

David King:

"Will Mormons vote for a candidate of another religion when there is a Mormon in the race?" Yes indeed, sir. Harry Reid comes to mind.

Mr. King, it is obvious you are a Ron Paul disciple. Good luck, and I wish Mr. Paul well. Did you know Ron Paul wants to legalize marijuana and other illegal drugs?? Does that not concern you?

Anyone an know what Mormons believe. Just open the website lds dot org.