Oft injured with a checkered past. Why?
Although I still prefer AK, at least Howard finished college and I think that is
good. Some of his off-court stuff was teenage junk....and probably racist cops
making a big deal out of nothing. He was a big-time defender in college. If
his ACL is healed, there is no reason why he cannot get his D back. Hayward's
comments are interesting. He talks about Howard's defense. Poor CJ can't even
use the word in a sentence.
Robin: I'm excited about the Jazz with or without Howard. It must be awful to
have to go through life with such a negative perspective. Basketball is supposed
to be fun for the fan. If I want to have fun with it, who are you to try to
steal my enjoyment? If you don't like it, find something you enjoy instead of
trying to rain on my parade.
@Brave Sir RobinActually Josh Howard was known as a good defender in
Dallas. How much defense does CJ Miles play by the way? His off court troubles
are 4 years ago. If he did not like Utah, he would not have signed here. It is
a LOW risk deal. It adds depth and takes some pressure off of Hayward and
Burks. He is not here to be the franchise player. If you see a better option
out there, tell us who would have been better? I understand where you are coming
from with the off-court issues, and if he pulls anything like that, they will
just waive him. We will see how it goes. It is a little bit of a risk, but I
don't mind the Jazz rolling the dice.
So let's see....the Jazz just brought in a player who:- Is often
injured- Plays terrible defense- Has a history of getting in trouble
off the court- Has said he doesn't like UtahYeah, this is
going to end well...
I agree. I think it will be a fun year and the Jazz will surprise some people.
This will be especially true when they other team is tired and playing
back-to-back or back-to-back-to-back or 4 games in 5 nights or 17 games in a
month. Barring injury, the Jazz have the depth to stay pretty fresh while other
teams superstars are wilting a little.
Don't forget Favors. I'm pretty excited about his upside.
Correction on my last post. I think Favors will be a 4-5 reserve. I thought I
had put him on the list. I would like to see him start and bring Millsap off
the bench cause I think he would be a heck of a 6th man. The Jazz can use some
versatil lineups too. They can do some lineups such as:3-EvansKanter-4Favors-53-Millsap4-Favors5-Memo3-Millsap4-Favors5-Jeffersonetc. Then on the guard
line Harris and either Howard, Hayward, Burks. Once again, this should be a fun
I also think this will be a fun year. The Jazz are long and athletic. I am
thinking the rotation will be something like this:Starters1-Devin Harris2-Gordon Hayward3-Josh Howard4-Paul Millsap5-Al JeffersonRegular rotation from the bench1-Earl
Watson2-Alec Burks3-CJ Miles or Jeremy Evans (Evans can also play
the 4)4/5-Enes Kanter5-Memo OkurI think Raja and either
CJ or Evans will be the 11th and 12th men on the roster. I think we have seen
the best of CJ we will see, and I think the Jazz should use him only when
needed. I like Howard on the team. If he plays well, he can take pressure off
of Burks and Hayward, and free up more opportunities for them. I think the Jazz
will lurk around .500 in the standings, and have a legit shot at the 8th or 7th
spot. Regardless, this will be a fun year, and I am as excited this year as I
have been in a long time.
@ Jim987Barea better than D-Will..haha..not going to happen. The
only reason he did well in Dallas was because he came off the bench and was a
different speed. Afflalo? He's a Restricted Free Agent, so he's going to
demand a high price, then the Nuggets will just match the offer. Josh Howard is
a good signing because it's low risk, possibly high reward.
I like the move because...The Jazz lack depth on the perimeter. I
am done with CJ Miles, he is what he is, and he is not getting better. He is a
decent player, but too inconsistent. Raja Bell can help out, but is not coming
off a terrific year. Burks and Hayward are young, and should be given minutes
to progress. However, we were lacking a lot of depth on the perimeter, and still
are lacking a bit. Howard is a nice signing because it is low risk, and low
price. He has everything to play for, so he will likely give it his best shot.
If it works out, maybe we have him long term, he is 31 and might have a few
years left. On the other hand, maybe he is finished. Again, it is a 1 year
deal. Josh Howard was once a rising young star (not a superstar) and I am
intrigued by this signing. I hope it works out.
Projected Jazz roster (13 players currently on guaranteed contracts):PG: Harris, WatsonWings: Bell, Burks, Evans, Hayward, Howard, MilesPost: Favors, Jefferson, Kanter, Millsap, OkurThat's a pretty
credible team. Should average 20+ pts from the PG (Harris 15 and Watson 6), 35+
from the wings (Hayward, Miles, and Howard should all be in the 12-15 range),
and 50+ from the posts (Jefferson at 20, Millsap at 16, Favors and Okur at 8).
That's a lot of points even if Burks, Bell, Evans, and Kanter give you nothing
at all which is very unlikely. Any kind of defense at all is going to win a lot
of games and I believe the defense will be improved.Final division
standings:Oklahoma CityUtahPortlandDenverMinnesotaFinal conference standings:Oklahoma CityDallasLA ClippersSan AntonioLA LakersUtahMemphisHoustonPortlandPhoenixDenverGolden
I bet Bell sees a huge hit on his PT with this
Favors is promising but isn't ready to start just yet. Hasn't proved he can make
a jump shot, handle the ball down low, hasn't proved he can make foul shots. All
hes shown is glimpses of high potential but millsap should start over him until
he can prove his reliability.
Re: Europe 8:19Remember when AK broke a tooth and spit the piece out on
the floor without so much as a wince or break in his intense concentration? AK
was heroic overall.
The Jazz won't be good for another 3 years. So why spend 9 million a year on
AK? It is better to go young and grow as a team than bring back AK to take up
minutes. Good move by Kevin.Can Howard play? Who really knows.
But he was very good in Dallas and he is still young. On the other hand, we
just added another player who can't play defense.
@PTB,Jazz have a strong playoff history, and they will be fine.
Only time will tell if this was a good signing. I was hoping Millsap would start
at the 3 so that Favors could start at the 4 but now I'm not who could fit where
and still spread out the minutes. I could see the Jazz having a young starting
lineup:C-Jefferson PF-Favors SF-Hayward SG-Miles PG-HarrisWith a veteran 2nd Unit:C-Memo PF-Millsap SF-Howard SG-Bell
PG-WatsonI would rather see Evans and Burks than Howard and Bell but
unfortunately I believe that they, along with the Big Enes, are going to be
relegated to 3rd string. We'll see what happens. With so much depth, it makes me
think they're orchestrating a trade.
Europe-Thanks for the opinion from a professional. I would take AK at $9
million any year. He is the heart of any team defense. He has been a good
citizen and a terrific player.
Portland Trailblazer.Why would portland sign and pay Oden 9 million
dollars to miss the whole season? They are the ones who should be moving to
seattle and not the Jazz. You should start petitioning the city of
seattle for a new Arena. Unitl you do, enjoy your WNBA team.
What's wrong with you guys! 34 comments and only ONE that spoke of AK
positively. I met AK when he had just come to SLC. Immediately I saw that we had
a champion quality athlete. Later i was able watch him close at courtside seats
I had. As an Olympic Athletic Trainer (sports medicine) I was thrilled to see
sportsmanship athleticism unparallel to many others in the NBA. He may have
suffered injuries, but he gave it his ALL. As a professional I wittnessed even
an event where he went after a loose ball diving, and catching the ball. Normal
person would have gotten injured by trying it and protecting oneself doing it...
AK didn't and survived.All I can say, that THANKS AK! For making me enjoy
Optimistic Jazz fans get a grip, pessimistic Jazz fans get a grip. They were
never going to make the playoffs this year nor are they going to be the worst
team. They will be OK. Tinsley won't make the team, if he does then you
peesmists could be right. Howard and Raja if they expect and demand huge minutes
could become locker room problems and chemistry could suffer, but I see them
being professional. If not pessimists will rule. Al Jefferson has never played
on a winning team and Minnesota showed good improvement without him. What the
signings so far show me is that KOC, Corbin, the other coaches and even
management, realize that the young players are not capable yet. You can't afford
to put to much pressure to win on them if they aren't ready or it will foster a
losing attitude, that will be hard to break. Case in point Al Jefferson. I think
the Jazz know what they are doing, fans be realistic.
Hee he hee hee, this is what the lock out brought; sub-par entertainment at an
increased cost to the fans. Too funny. Long live the NFL/NHL!
@Jim 987AK is not asking 3 Million a year...it's 9 million a year
for three years for a total of $27 million. How does that sound to you? Give
O'Conner credit, he's a great GM
Portlands in what? the lottery?
So we gave up AK, a proven defender just because the Jazz couldn't afford 3 Mil'
a year?By the way AK has much more character and values. Guess the Jazz
org. doesn't have values. Who are we anymore? We passed on Barea, bad, he is
gonna be better than D-will this year just watch. We passed on Afflalo (however
you spell his name), he is Great. I really think we picked up an old guy that
is at the end of his career, just like Bell. What makes KOC and David Locke
think Josh is going to return to 80% of who he used to be. We might as
well pick up McGrady, AI, and Arenas while were at it and we can pass out
invitations to a Retro all-star party. PS- All you Portland fans your
team is going nowhere this year, you have no room to speak. The Jazz as bad as
they are will always be one step ahead of you!
This signing just gave Burks more fuel to add to his fire! Hayward too!
He may not be in Utahs plans, but AK at $17m is over priced. At $3m he is a
What I dont understand is why Jazz fans think Utah is going to make the playoffs
haha.too funny.It's funny how Jazz fans think they're
the next OKC Thunder, too funny.But in reality, the Jazz are the
next Vancouver Grizzlies or Charlotte Hornets
@Portladn Trail BlazersWhat i dont understand is Portland Signing
Oden for a 1yr 8-9M deal...
Clearly this means they have no plans to try Milsap at the 3 so where is the
playing time for Favors coming from after Milsaps 30+ minutes.
If you have the Jazz making the playoffs, who do you have missing them. Nuggets?
Nope they're in. Blazers? They're in. Clippers. They're in. Grizzlies? They're
in.Mavs, Spurs, Lakers and Thunder are all locks.OKC
Thunder are winning the divison, EVEN I KNOW THIS, and I AM A BLAZERS'
HOMER....Jazz will be battling the Timberwolves for last place in
I like it. This is the most athletic team the Jazz have had in a long time
(maybe ever???). I am excited to watch them this year. I am not even sure if
they will have a winning record, but they should at least be fun to watch. KOC
gets bashed a lot, but I think he is an excellent GM.
Do any of you really believe that Denver will make the playoffs? Have you not
followed anything? They lost half their team to China. There is no way they can
Prove the doubters wrong Howard!!!
The jazz don't have a superstar yet but they sure are a lot deeper than last
year! And we have some really big lineup possibilities that are going to be hard
to contend with! I predict the jazz will make the playoffs.
The Jazz will be a playoff team. They might even win their division and be 3-4
here in the west. I think Denver is going to turn some heads; it will be real
close between Utah, Denver, and OKC for the division.
Portland Trailblazer.How is Brandon Roy doing? Oh yeah, he's
retiring.How is Aldridge doing? He has a heart problem from the
sound of things. Too bad for him.How's Oden? Out for another season
according to team president Larry Miller. Sonics are dead. They let
Durant and Westbrook skip town. Like they deserve another team to ruin.
wow, you are ALL wrong. The Jazz made this signing because they are under the
tax for the first time in 10 years and it isn't a strong free agent class. They
signed Josh Howard because he's a cheap one year bench spot to add to the roster
while Corbin works on the main focus of our team. Howard isn't going to take
minutes from Hayward or Burks, Howard will fill the role on the bench for this
short rough year to help this team grow a bit and we can have the money to offer
better free agents next year. He's just a filler for this season. Jazz know we
aren't going for a deep playoff run so they are just making best use of the time
and saving the money until we can make better signings.
@TrailBlazer. Ha you putting the Clippers at #6 in the West discredits
everything else that you said. Chris Paul by himself was a playoff team! Now add
in a taste of Blake Griffin! They will be better then the Lakers, Spurs, and
This signing pretty much defines Miles & Bell's roles as bench warmers,
injury replacements, or trade bait just like it should be! We
"finally" have now got the quality & depth to contend soon.
I'm glad the Jazz just did a 1 year deal. This guy has a lot to prove before he
deserves any long term contract. There is a good chance he will never get back
to his all star potential. He also has a history of being a head case, and not
respecting the American flag. If you don't respect the flag get out of my
@Portland Trail Blazers | 6:13 p.m. Dec. 15, 2011 Sandy, UT Funny
for someone who is Blazers fan, Seattle would still have a team, if they
would've built a new stadium, but Seattle was to cheap for that, and it is
really funny how you care about the Jazz so much. Oh Well!
@Portland Jail Blazer. Stay with your beloved ones, we don't need or appreciate
you commenting on ours! In other words get lost!
Portland Trail Blazers -What in the world makes you think Raja Bell
can play the 3 spot?
@ Portland Trail BlazersConsidering its C.J. Miles (not J.C.) and
Okur (not okor), I'm going ahead and say you have no idea what you're talking
about.But I'll agree somewhat. Why don't we take some of that super
star money we got from the nets for deron and spend it on a play maker. Tell me
right now who is going to make plays on the jazz? Who is the starting point
guard? Who is the leader of the team? I can't answer any of those questions.Things aren't looking up for the Jazz.
I simply hope his knee is 100%. If it is, this is a fantastic signing. I'm not
apposed to the 1 year contract for that reason, in fact I think it's perfect. If
it goes well and Josh wants back then great. If he doesn't want back we still
come out a winner ... the guy who doesn't want to be here will probably never
work out anyway.
The Jazz have the making of a team that might just creep up and knock teams
out. KOC showing that he wants to win now, thank you for that btw. If JH is
healthy, WATCH OUT, dude can play ball! The Jazz are stacked and looking good on
paper. Let's see what we do when we take the court. I will be at ESA on
Saturday to see what kind of product is running out on the floor this year. The
potential is there, WELCOME JH, lets go back to the Finals.
@bluewombat8maybe because Howard would only sign a one year deal. He lets
the Jazz take a chance on him, knows he will play hard and in a year is making
double what he signed with the Jazz for. Worst case scenario is he signs next
year for the same amount. Which would you do?
I honestly don't understand this.The Jazz already have Hayward, J.C.
Miles, Raja Bell so there is no need to play Howard at the 3 where the guys
already can play that position.The Jazz are playing for nothing this
year. The Jazz are not making the playoffs, they not winning the NW Division,
they are signing a guy for absolutely no reason. Again here are my
predictions for the playoffs for the West...1. Thunder2.
Lakers3. Mavericks4. Spurs5. Grizzlies6. Clippers7. Blazers8. NuggetsThe Jazz have done nothing to improve.
They have Okor back, but he is a non factor. If they cant even make the playoffs
with half a season with Deron Williams, there is no way they're making the
playoffs without him for an entire season.The Jazz have no dominant
go to guy like almost every other team in the west.Lakers have
Bryant (maybe either Howard or Gasol)Spurs - Gino, Duncan, TPBlazers
- Aldridge Thunder - DurantTwolves - LoveClippers - CP3,
GriffinMavs - DirkGrizzlies - Gay, RandolphThis is a
pointless move for the Jazz...I'm starting a petition to move the
Jazz to Seattle......they're more deserving
Played a total of 18 games last year??? Injured? Boozer??OK
Maybe Bell + Howard = One decent player.We can only hope. I'd like
to see Hayward and Burks play shooting guard and CJ only play when he isn't
being a chucker.
I love the signing but I do have one problem with it. Why did yous sign him for
just one year? Typical Jazz to sign a player, get him playing at an All-Star
clip then just let them go to a big market team. Lame. But maybe Howard has a
break-out year with us and likes the direction our club is going in and wants to
stay aboard. But I do love the signing. Now we have 3 former All Stars on the
team with 2 others with the potential to be an All Star(Sap and Jefferson) and a
stable of young guys, I love the squad we are putting together but I understand
we as Jazz fans need to be patient.
We don't need more shooters.... we need more makers....
for once kevin o' connor made a good signing