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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 13 2011 10:45 p.m. MST

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NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Well it looks like BYU will join the Big 12 after all. Well kind of.
Heaps might be on is on his way to put on a Jayhawk uniform.

Utah'95
FPO, AE

Let's review where these quarterbacks ended their college careers after they left BYU:

Miller - Montana
Martini - San Jose State
Mortgage - University of San Diego
Diva - Hawaii
Sorenson - Southern Utah
Hartwig - Cal-Lutheran
Olsen - UCLA
Spencer - Montana State
Vye - San Jose State
Cooper - Snow College
Jensen - Utah State
Bower - McNeese State
Kimball - Utah State

Only one of them, Ben Olsen, went to a comparable program (trust me, I'm not trying to start a debate about how BYU compares to UCLA or other BCS programs). All of the other athletes took a step (or two) down.

While several found success at lower division programs, most didn't have careers that most sports fans can remember.

A few played professional football at some level, but most did not.

A few were drafted by the NFL, but none had what most of us would consider "NFL careers."

I wish you luck in your future, Jake, but unfortunately history suggests that you will not have a memorable post-BYU career. Work hard and beat the odds!

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

Re: Utah'95 "Let's review where these quarterbacks ended their college careers after they left BYU ...I wish you luck in your future, Jake, but unfortunately history suggests that you will not have a memorable post-BYU career. Work hard and beat the odds!" Very insightful post. I couldn't agree with you any more. Amazing what athletes like Jake "perceive" in themselves when they've been stroked their entire life.

CT98
Saint George, UT

-Y Grad / Y Dad- brings up an interesting topic regarding O'Neil Chambers. Chambers will most likely re-join the team next year. I am happy he is back. If Jake were playing QB next year at BYU, Chambers would have received very few touches as Jake would have most likely held a vendetta for the practical joke and would have looked to other receivers first.

Chambers has good potential and I can't wait to see him in Cougar Uniform again scoring TDs.

tuffgong
POCATELLO, ID

A QB that had all the tools coming into BYU in the Fall of 88 was Chris Hoge, out of Highland HS in Poky, Idaho.. The only tool he lacked though, was probably most important, Mental toughness/maturity. You'd think he would redshirt and bide his time for a shot after Detmer, but Chris, the youngest Hoge and brother to Merrill, threw a fit and left to Ricks JC where he fizzled cuz he was a head case.. This cat had all the ability in the world with his 6'4" frame. What a bust!

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Elmer said,

"'Do you remember BYU's National Championship, 17 National Awards, including Heisman and Outlands?' No, I wasn't even born"

You weren't around in 1984 when BYU won their NC? Fine, you're younger than 27.

You weren't around in 1986 or 1989 when Buck and Elowonibi won the Outland? Fine, you're younger than 22.

You weren't around in 1990 when Detmer won the Heisman? Or when he won the Davey O'Brien that same year and in 1991, when he also won the Sammy Baugh? Fine, you're younger than 20.

You weren't around in 1996 when Sarkisian won the Sammy Baugh? Now I'm starting to doubt your honesty.

You weren't around in 2001 when Staley won the Doak Walker? Well, you're either lying or you're in way over your head with a discussion with the big boys. Let the adults talk for a while!

By the way, how many of the above awards does Utah have in their trophy case? Certainly they have at least one...

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

RE: giantfan- "Well, you're either lying or you're in way over your head with a discussion with the big boys. Let the adults talk for a while!By the way, how many of the above awards does Utah have in their trophy case? Certainly they have at least one..." OK, I humbly vote for "Giantfan" as best cross-examination ever! Loved it. Good, solid points all of them!! OK. So, I think I can guess what the reply will be. Let's see .... something about 52-10, Pac10+ vs. WAC teams. Blah, blah, blah!

Utah'95
FPO, AE

So. Cal Reader,

I agree that giantfan's post was well-written, but before you fall all over yourself praising giantfan's "cross-examination" of Elmer Fudd, might I point a few things out?

-Elmer specified the Heisman and Outland Trophys. He made no mention of the Sammy Baugh and Doak Walker awards, that was giantfan putting words into his mouth.

-Where is the evidence that Elmer is "lying?" That's quite an accusation to make against someone, particularly when the so-called evidence of the offense is at least partially fabricated by the accusor.

So not all of the points were "solid," as you said. The cross-examination wouldn't hold up in the eyes of an objective judge and jury.

Oh, and by the way, it's "54-10 (not 52-10), and Pac12 (not Pac10+) vs. WAC teams" to you!

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