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Published: Tuesday, Dec. 13 2011 10:45 p.m. MST

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patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

If Jake saw a future at BYU he would be staying. Period. Jake has a big arm and that arm is for hire right now. Somebody is going to get a heck of a good QB. Big arms at QB don't matter at BYU anymore... just fast little legs!

CT98
Saint George, UT

Heaps had his shot. He only had 2 good games where he produced higher than average stats (Colorado State and Utep both in 2010). Jake was very average at BYU over his 2 year career. If he is such an amazing QB he would have proven it. We all waited patiently. I watched him over-throw receivers all year long and found myself yelling at the Telivision Set during the Utah State game for the Coaches to bench Jake. I know I'm not the only fan that was yelling that day. After 5 lackluster games it was time for change. Enter Riley Nelson. Best of Luck to Jake at his next school.

Bring on Nelson, Hill and Mangum!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

I think his best shot is to go to a competitive d-II school and hope to start as a big fish in a little pond. I believe that would deprive him of the one year sitting in the corner requirement.

It is interesting that a poster reported here that O'Niel Chambers was the author of the practical-joke-in-poor-taste of emptying Jake's locker. O'Niel fell on the wrong side, paid his dues, and earned his way back onto the team. If the problem for Jake really is lack of patience and a sense of entitlement, perhaps a red shirt year and some hard work and soul searching here are a better alternative than going there, wherever there is.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

dlw7: "Coaching is not just to win games, but to help these young men reach their potential while playing Division 1"

I beg to differ. While the university experience in general is to help young people reach their potential, a coach's job, and every player's job, is to win games. College sports is not supposed to be a farm system for the pros, and it is a shame that the NCAA has allowed that to be the focus. As a result, there is a lot of inverted thinking among some fans about Jake. His job was to help the Cougars win. In exchange, he gets a free education at the best university in the world. Like countless unsung BYU athletes over the years have shown, you don't have to be the star to do that. If it's all about Jake, then it's better that he go somewhere else.

Floyd Johnson
Broken Arrow, OK

The list seems somewhat incomplete without at least a mention of Bret Engemann. I remember two sensational second half comeback games in 2000 (Utah State and leading the team to 5 touchdowns in the second half against Virginia). He lost his starting position to Doman after injury. He did not transfer to another college, instead he declared early for the NFL because of playing time. Signed with Oakland Raiders, played in NFL Europe and the AFL. Say what you want about Crowton's other mistakes, I maintain not maximizing Engemann's potential in 2002 and 2003 is what sank BYU during that era.

Ute's R Gr8
Sandy, Utah

@Bluto

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

Do you remember 54 -10?

2012 Repeat!

Band of Lil Brothers! Like shooting fish in a barrel.

neltz
Farmington, UT

I'd rather watch Riley than Heaps any day. Glad the coaches stuck with Riley - and I cant wait for next season!

The_Kaiser
Holladay, UT

What a funny article.

So. Cal Reader
San Diego, CA

Re: The_Kaiser "What a funny article." I agree. I haven't heard of half of these guys. Looking forward to the list of Top 10 Long Snappers. Face it, those selfless guys never get any credit!

UtahBy44
Beaver, UT

@So. Cal Reader

"I agree. I haven't heard of half of these guys. Looking forward to the list of Top 10 Long Snappers. Face it, those selfless guys never get any credit!"

You and I rarely agree on BYU vs Utah articles, but dude, that comment was hilarious!

Kudos!

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@Ute's R Gr8 (delusional)

Do you remember BYU's National Championship, 17 National Awards, including Heisman and Outlands?
Do you remember BYU's 23 Conference Championships in the Modern Era?
Or BYU's Consensus National Championship?
Do you remember ESPN televising 11 BYU games, This Year?

ESPN does, they know who the poser wannabee is in these parts. UTAH.
2nd or 3rd fiddle, always will be.

Now enjoy your bottomfeeder status in the Pac 10+, in All Sports!

crowntown1
Corona, CA

And what about Adam hoover who left and ended up starting at UC

GoGetter
Sandy, UT

How many articles need to be written on this? Holy cow.

He is gone. LIVE WITH IT. He was over hyped and people should be glad he is gone. (For those who aren't... wow.)

Now please, DNEWS, STOP writing these articles!!

UGradBYUfan
Snowflake, AZ

@ dlw7
Heaps was not at BYU when Chow was at BYU. Heaps is a sophomore and Anae was the OC during his freshman year.

supainthehills
Cottonwood Heights, UT

From what I've seen and heard from people in the program, Jake leaving was something that they didn't mind see happening at all. He was an overly entitled and high maintenance 'chick'. He didn't want to put in the work he needed for him to transition his high school success to his play in college.

I wanted Jake to be everything that he was supposed to be...still do...but he won't ever reach his potential until he realizes that talent alone will only get him half way there. Hope his finds that in his red-shirt year!

It's NO wonder that Bronco has his little 'coach crush' on Riley since he busted his tail to contribute. There was never any talk of him transferring when Heaps was named the starter. Instead, he ran the scout team at quarterback and got on the field by being on the punt team. He just wanted to get on the field and help the team any way he could. ANY coach loves coaching kids that give them that type of heart and effort. I hope that EVERY quarterback and every player coming to BYU learns from this experience! GO COUGARS!

crowntown1
Corona, CA

Sad thing is I am willing to bet he goes and does well whereever he transfers to. He will get coached up and have better receivers to throw to.

Turk Turkelson
WEST JORDAN, UT

After looking at some of those old photos...I think the bigger issue here is that BYU needs to return to Royal Blue uniforms.

If not, at least add some gold lining to their current uniforms so that they aren't a complete copy cat of Utah State.

A1994
Centerville, UT

@crowntown1

I'll take that bet. Having watch Heaps under pressure, I'd be willing to bet we never hear his name again.

Juice Box
Eureka, UT

@Bluto

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

Or better yet, those who don't even acknowledge the past are certainly doomed to repeat it.

54-10. 7 out of the last 10.

Elmer Fudd
Sandy, Utah

Earth to Bluto!

"Do you remember BYU's National Championship, 17 National Awards, including Heisman and Outlands?"
No, I wasn't even born

"Do you remember BYU's 23 Conference Championships in the Modern Era?"
What defines the modern era? Are you talking post-industrial era? post Civil War era? What are you talking about? Sports records shows that Utah has 24 conference titles which is greater than BYU's 23.

"Or BYU's Consensus National Championship?"
No, I wasn't born

"Do you remember ESPN televising 11 BYU games, This Year?"
No, I don't watch mid-majors play WAC teams. Although I did watch BYU getting run out of their own stadium by a Pac-12 opponent.

"ESPN does, they know who the poser wannabee is in these parts. UTAH.
2nd or 3rd fiddle, always will be".
In case you forgotten, ESPN is now best friends with the Pac-12 starting next year. ESPN will throw BYU on Thursday and Friday nights and slot the big boys during prime time TV.

"Now enjoy your bottomfeeder status in the Pac 10+, in All Sports!"

Now enjoy playing with yourselves and all those high school gym schools in the WCC (Wannabe in the Conference of Champions)

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